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Old 11-04-2019, 12:26 PM
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Rewriting Romeo & Juliet. What two conflicting groups do the star crossed lovers come from?


Yes, I know it's been done. West Side Story in the early 1960's.

But the story is timeless.

S\op what two groups yield the star crossed lovers?

I'd love to redo it the story with a fundamentalist Christian and a Homosexual Activist in the leads. Both Men. They meet outside a gay bar where there's a protest going on and--wham! Instant chemistry, and unhappy ending.
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Old 11-04-2019, 12:32 PM
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Yes, I know it's been done. West Side Story in the early 1960's.

But the story is timeless.

S\op what two groups yield the star crossed lovers?

I'd love to redo it the story with a fundamentalist Christian and a Homosexual Activist in the leads. Both Men. They meet outside a gay bar where there's a protest going on and--wham! Instant chemistry, and unhappy ending.
You mean "instant apothecary", right? No?

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Old 11-04-2019, 01:07 PM
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Neo-Nazi and Jew for Jesus would be interesting. Also Neo-Nazi and Black Panther
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Old 11-04-2019, 01:08 PM
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Old 11-04-2019, 01:24 PM
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Old 11-04-2019, 01:35 PM
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In Michigan it would be GM and Ford customers.

General US would be Democratic and Republican families.

Maybe more applicable worldwide would be a Greenpeace activist and an heir to an oil conglomerate.
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Old 11-04-2019, 01:38 PM
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Yes, I know it's been done. West Side Story in the early 1960's.

But the story is timeless.

S\op what two groups yield the star crossed lovers?

I'd love to redo it the story with a fundamentalist Christian and a Homosexual Activist in the leads. Both Men. They meet outside a gay bar where there's a protest going on and--wham! Instant chemistry, and unhappy ending.
Have you seen Latter Days? You'd probably enjoy it -- it's one of my favorites.
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OK, I'm going to stick with tradition here - let's set it in Verona; and in present day Italy there are football - ahem- rivalries aplenty. According to this, Hellas Verona F.C. and L.R. Vicenza Virtus (just down the road) get a little frisky when they meet up:

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The derby between the two sides is fierce to the point of being extremely violent. It is a derby whose origins date back to a strong rivalry between the two cities as far back as the Middle Ages.
Excellent. Sounds like a proper clash of Ultras.

But it gets better: Hellas Verona has a women's team, A.S.D. AGSM Verona Calcio Femminile (as they chant in the stands). You know what? I think we have our play.

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Old 11-04-2019, 04:03 PM
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A white gang and a Puerto Rican gang.

Oh wait....
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Old 11-04-2019, 04:50 PM
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Old 11-04-2019, 05:15 PM
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Rugby match.

New Zealand vs Wales.

In the opening scene, the New Zealanders perform the Haka, while the Welsh sing "Men of Harlech." (Basically, the dueling anthems scene from Zulu, but in a modern setting.)
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Juggalos and Maggots (Slipknot fans.) An old friend was a school psychologist in Arizona and reports there is real beef between the two.

Don't forget: Romeo and Juliet are teenagers.

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Old 11-04-2019, 06:33 PM
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OK, given they're teenagers in 2019, how about the entire story takes place on social media? Now, I'm not a social media user, so I'm not the one to write it, but I assume she likes his photo, he reciprocates, and they engage in a flirtation via texts or whatever else it is the kids use today. At the end, rather than killing themselves, they drop out of social media entirely.
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In the Marvel satire comic Not Brand Ecch #6 (Nov. 1967) they has Best Side Story, with the Marvel superheroes vs. the DC Superheroes. Dr. Strange and Wonder Woman fall for each other.

https://diversionsofthegroovykind.bl...-from-not.html


Mad magazine, 'way back in April of 1963 Mad magazine had East Side Story, with the Communists vs. NATO at the UN. But nobody fell in love with anybody.
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A white gang and a Puerto Rican gang.

Oh wait....
Interesting to find that originally the play was called "East Side Story" and it was not about Puerto Rican Vs White gangs.

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Leonard Bernstein's musical version of Romeo and Juliet set in New York was originally called East Side Story. At the time of writing it in the 1940s the musical had gangs of Catholics verses gangs of Jews in the Lower East Side. Five years later, this was changed to Puerto Ricans verses white gangs, who are from the West Side.
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Old 11-04-2019, 07:11 PM
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I think a key fact to remember is that one of the points of R & J is that the family feud isn't about values or justice or right and wrong; it's just a pointless rivalry that the families can be woken up out of by the shock of the kids' deaths. Some of the above suggestions don't match that idea (the sports rivalries are on the right track).
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A "quiver full" Christian and an atheist proponent of the voluntary human extinction movement. In a twist, the former commits suicide, but the latter is prevented from dying as they are arrested on suspicion of murdering the former as they are caught holding the gun they used.

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There was a theater troupe in Seattle in the mid-90s that did "recontextualizations" of classic plays. Friends told me that in their Romeo and Juliet the Montagus and Capulets were rival lesbian softball teams.

I wish I'd seen it.
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One of the funniest Big Bang scenes of all time was when the military man was interview the guys and Sheldon was told to keep his mouth shut. When the guy said "the Death Star from Star Trek" I though Sheldon was going to have a stroke.

Jim Parsons is a master of physical comedy.

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I gather that there are some takes on "R & J" -- not agreed on, I'm sure, by everyone interested in the play -- to the effect that, from the play's text, the Montagu / Capulet feud is waning -- the participants are getting tired of it, and it's generally impeding life: it's looking as though the factions will soon come to terms, and peace will break out. If R and J would only keep things quiet and discreet, and wait a little while; they'd be able to get together without upsetting anybody -- maybe even a "both-sides" wedding to symbolise end of feud, and reconciliation. But -- being un-clued-up and hot-blooded teenagers -- they see only the bad stuff "right now", and are oblivious to the long view and how it might serve them: whence unnecessary drama / heartbreak / death, and prolongation of the dying quarrel. Thus -- for modern rewrite, maybe some long-standing quarrel between groups, which is on the way to being patched up -- nothing obvious comes to my mind, but I'm sure there are a number of such.
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Jim Parsons is a master of physical comedy.
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Romeo is a butch lesbian and Juliet is a bi-curious heiress, to her family's consternation. I see Cara Delivigne and Kristen Stewart in the lead roles. Not sure which is which.
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For sheer absurdity, the "one space before a new sentence" people versus the "two spaces before a new sentence" people.
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Even worse, indent (or two spaces, if the media doesn't allow for indenting) the beginning of a paragraph vs. why the fuck would you put extra spaces there.
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