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I'm not a millennial but I love the phrase. Short, sweet and to the point.

The Boomers have been fucking the world up for decades and now they want to turn around and lecture younger generations about what we should care about, how we should conduct ourselves, where we should focus our energies, etc...like we haven't seen the results of their turn at bat. When you produce such poor results over such a long period of time no one has any interest in hearing your next nugget of wisdom, whatever it may be. It's like getting a lecture on moral responsibility from a drug addicted, child molesting murder who cheated on their taxes.

Boomers should do the world a favor and just retire so the rest of us can get started on at least trying to fix things.
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Old 11-08-2019, 09:22 AM
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I wasn't sure where I fell, so I looked up gen x birth years. 1965-1979 from the first google result. That's gotta be correct, because it was first, right? So I'm toward the earlier years of gen x. Now that I know I'm not on either side, I can choose sides. I'm going with the kids on this one, but I'm still going to vote for the oldsters next year.
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I'm not a millennial but I love the phrase. Short, sweet and to the point.

The Boomers have been fucking the world up for decades and now they want to turn around and lecture younger generations about what we should care about, how we should conduct ourselves, where we should focus our energies, etc...like we haven't seen the results of their turn at bat. When you produce such poor results over such a long period of time no one has any interest in hearing your next nugget of wisdom, whatever it may be.
poor results in what way? is the world a better or worse place overall since the second world war? by what metric?

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The main thing is you are keeping a sense of proportion on this, apparently the young these days are wont to hyperbole and exaggeration.

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Boomers should do the world a favor and just retire so the rest of us can get started on at least trying to fix things.
And of course the next generation won't be fixing the problems using the tools bequeathed to them by the previous generations will they? When the youth finally implement fusion, wind or wave energy as a means of clean energy production they'll be inventing it from a standing start on an abacus.
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I think hearing "millenials are stupid and lazy" for a decade from a cohort that could buy a house and raise a family with a high school education, that will enjoy full social security benefits but cut them for future generations, that caused the global financial crisis and started the Iraq War, that knew about global warming and refused to act, etc, will earn some deserved scorn against their elders.
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I think hearing "millenials are stupid and lazy" for a decade from a cohort that could buy a house and raise a family with a high school education, that will enjoy full social security benefits but cut them for future generations, that caused the global financial crisis and started the Iraq War, that knew about global warming and refused to act, etc, will earn some deserved scorn against their elders.
Yeah, but as I said previously, that has always been the case. It is a human certainty that elders moan about the kids and the kids moan about the elders. That has been true throughout history and only the relevant topics of complaint change (and even then not so much regarding clothes, hair, language and music).

I have no doubt that kids in Carthage moaned about Hannibal with his fancy elephants dragging them into the Punic wars.

The youth of today will be just fine and they will leave the world in better shape than they found it, at which point the youth of the day will give them shit about what they didn't do....and so on........and so on
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poor results in what way? is the world a better or worse place overall since the second world war? by what metric?


The main thing is you are keeping a sense of proportion on this, apparently the young these days are wont to hyperbole and exaggeration.

And of course the next generation won't be fixing the problems using the tools bequeathed to them by the previous generations will they? When the youth finally implement fusion, wind or wave energy as a means of clean energy production they'll be inventing it from a standing start on an abacus.
OK, Boomer
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But I'm not, nor do I decry the youth of today. Note carefully what I wrote in my last post.

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What a piece of shit I am.
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As another Gen X, I'm delighted that this pithy phrase is putting so many Boomers into a tizzy.

And in case you haven't seen it - a 25 year old NZ MP used it to shut up a heckler during a speech about climate change:

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/06/asia/...rnd/index.html
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Nope, boomers go thru '64.
Only if you're going strictly by birth rates. Culturally, someone who couldn't vote until 1980 could not have had influence on what was happening in the late sixties and the seventies.

cmkeller, that was never meant to be a slogan. It was one thing Jack Weiner said in a long interview. It was the generation above Boomers who claimed that was what Boomers believed, so as to discredit them.
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The world is a pretty good place right now.
And this, I think, is the Millennials' number one complain against the Boomers: their attitude of "Things are fine right now. Who cares what happens 10 or 20 or 30 years from now? That's not my problem; I won't even be around then."
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As another Gen X, I'm delighted that this pithy phrase is putting so many Boomers into a tizzy.

And in case you haven't seen it - a 25 year old NZ MP used it to shut up a heckler during a speech about climate change:

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/06/asia/...rnd/index.html
Then you must not internet a lot. The phrase is already being used to try and shut down anyone with a differing viewpoint. I very rarely see it used against anyone who is an actual boomer. Even on platforms where the age of users is very apparent.

When you complain that you are Gen X and not a boomer donít be surprised when the reply is ďOK boomer.Ē
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Yeah, but as I said previously, that has always been the case. It is a human certainty that elders moan about the kids and the kids moan about the elders. That has been true throughout history and only the relevant topics of complaint change (and even then not so much regarding clothes, hair, language and music).

I have no doubt that kids in Carthage moaned about Hannibal with his fancy elephants dragging them into the Punic wars.

The youth of today will be just fine and they will leave the world in better shape than they found it, at which point the youth of the day will give them shit about what they didn't do....and so on........and so on
Yeah, but the entire point is that the Baby Boomers DIDN'T leave the world a better place than they found it.

https://www.npr.org/2018/11/30/67210...rents-fed-says

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-w...-idUSKBN1DE18M
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But I'm not, nor do I decry the youth of today. Note carefully what I wrote in my last post.



What a piece of shit I am.
It's the attitude, not the age that triggers this particular response. When you are trying to work to make things better and certain folks just won't shut the fuck up about how everything is good enough as is you just get tired of having to entertain these people.

OK, Boomer is an excellent dismissal and a quick way of saying if you can't respect younger folks positions on important topics then you should not expect younger people to respect your position. If you aren't going to help then the least you can do is get the fuck out of the way.
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I'm not a millennial but I love the phrase. Short, sweet and to the point.

The Boomers have been fucking the world up for decades and now they want to turn around and lecture younger generations about what we should care about, how we should conduct ourselves, where we should focus our energies, etc...like we haven't seen the results of their turn at bat. When you produce such poor results over such a long period of time no one has any interest in hearing your next nugget of wisdom, whatever it may be. It's like getting a lecture on moral responsibility from a drug addicted, child molesting murder who cheated on their taxes.

Boomers should do the world a favor and just retire so the rest of us can get started on at least trying to fix things.
Why wait? If the so-called millennials are the planetís saviors they donít need mommyís permission to get started.
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Why wait? If the so-called millennials are the planetís saviors they donít need mommyís permission to get started.
But they do need the climate change deniers currently making public policy to stop undermining every environmental regulation and treaty. They do need the people whose only response to every school shooting is to offer thoughts and prayers to either do something more constructive or get out of the way. They need the people who benefit from the status quo to stop carrying out vast and well-funded media smear campaigns every time a young person dares to suggest that maybe we could do things better. And they need a large portion of the population to stop voting for the people who are actively making things worse.
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No worries, it's pretty much a US thing. I just thought more people might get it. Seems only a few of us do.

"Boomer Sooner" is the fight song for the University of Oklahoma. It's common for one alumni to shout "Boomer!" and another to respond "Sooner!". Finally, OK is the two letter abbreviation for Oklahoma, so that's how I make the connection.
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In New Zealand, it apparently shares the new meaning -- https://www.washingtonpost.com/clima...change-speech/

Member of Parliament ChlŲe Swarbrick, delivering a speech about climate change, responded to a heckler in the chamber with the retort "Okay, boomer."
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I get the "OK Boomer" part, but what does "sooner" have to do with it?
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I get the "OK Boomer" part, but what does "sooner" have to do with it?
See Post #68.
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True, but they still have to pry the reins of power from the cold, grey claws of smug, old nihilists.
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It is just another faddy phrase. An ultimate ad hominem, shorthand for "you are old and therefore your opinion can be discounted". . .
That's true, of course, but I have to say I prefer it to the dismissive phrase which is generally tossed at me: "Racist, sexist, clueless old white guy."
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True, but they still have to pry the reins of power from the cold, grey claws of smug, old nihilists.
What power? I mean, just because the President, the three leading candidates to replace him, the Speaker of House and the Senate Majority Leader are all in their seventies...
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Why wait? If the so-called millennials are the planetís saviors they donít need mommyís permission to get started.
They don't need mommy's permission. They need the old folks to get the fuck out of the way so they have space to operate and the ability to actually make changes without constantly being undermined by folks who want to see things change only after they are dead.

Or , what Gyrate and Inigo Montoya said...
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It's the attitude, not the age that triggers this particular response. When you are trying to work to make things better and certain folks just won't shut the fuck up about how everything is good enough as is you just get tired of having to entertain these people.

OK, Boomer is an excellent dismissal and a quick way of saying if you can't respect younger folks positions on important topics then you should not expect younger people to respect your position. If you aren't going to help then the least you can do is get the fuck out of the way.
Itís as equally excellent a reply as calling someone a snowflake to shut them up.
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It's the best possible response to any headline that starts with "Millennials Are Killing _________".


May I mention as an aside, even as a Boom/X cusper on the slight Boomer side, those are annoying. Very often, Millennials aren’t what’s killing (X), Boomers getting old is killing (X). Or just plain technological obsolescence, cultural displacement, having to satisfy stockholder short-term demands, and so on.
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And this, I think, is the Millennials' number one complain against the Boomers: their attitude of "Things are fine right now. Who cares what happens 10 or 20 or 30 years from now? That's not my problem; I won't even be around then."
Then make that case to those people who hold that attitude.
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Yeah, but the entire point is that the Baby Boomers DIDN'T leave the world a better place than they found it.

https://www.npr.org/2018/11/30/67210...rents-fed-says

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-w...-idUSKBN1DE18M
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Then make that case to those people who hold that attitude.
This response is targeted specifically at the people with that attitude. The people who want to use the same old debunked arguments, who just want to basically troll younger people. It's for the people who like to drop "But he never produced the birth certificate" or "He's secretly a Muslim [or better yet, Moslem]" into conversations about Obama, or who refuse to acknowledge that a difference exists between pure socialism and a democratic socialist. It's the tired response of a generation of people who get prompted to re-hash old arguments every time they turn around by someone who thinks they are clever on the internet.

The case has been made. The facts are out there for those receptive to them. Those who refuse to see them, and who continue to cling to the idea that it's all just overblown, get dismissed by the people who want things to change for the better.
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It's the attitude, not the age that triggers this particular response. When you are trying to work to make things better and certain folks just won't shut the fuck up about how everything is good enough as is you just get tired of having to entertain these people.
Right, but you aimed it at me and that is not the attitude that I have.

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OK, Boomer is an excellent dismissal and a quick way of saying if you can't respect younger folks positions on important topics then you should not expect younger people to respect your position. If you aren't going to help then the least you can do is get the fuck out of the way.
If I thought there was a hope in hell of that term being confined to attacking just those people, for those reasons, with those attitudes then I'd agree. It won't be. It'll become a bastardised shorthand and used to close down discussion between older and younger groups. I guess we'll both see how it develops but the usage in this thread so far doesn't give cause for optimism.
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This response is targeted specifically at the people with that attitude. The people who want to use the same old debunked arguments, who just want to basically troll younger people. It's for the people who like to drop "But he never produced the birth certificate" or "He's secretly a Muslim [or better yet, Moslem]" into conversations about Obama, or who refuse to acknowledge that a difference exists between pure socialism and a democratic socialist. It's the tired response of a generation of people who get prompted to re-hash old arguments every time they turn around by someone who thinks they are clever on the internet.

The case has been made. The facts are out there for those receptive to them. Those who refuse to see them, and who continue to cling to the idea that it's all just overblown, get dismissed by the people who want things to change for the better.
And if you want to sling a pejorative at the people who specifically think and act that way then great, I'm all for it. However, creating a pejorative based on a demographic group that contains many people who do not actually think way seems unhelpful at best.

It seems to be identity politics rearing its ugly head again. You are part of group "A" therefore you most hold view "X" I detest that thinking no matter where it comes from.
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Right, but you aimed it at me and that is not the attitude that I have.
We're going to have to agree to disagree about that. I submitted a post with my opinion on the subject and you immediately started to nitpick and dismiss my position with:

- "poor results in what way? is the world a better or worse place overall since the second world war? by what metric?"

- "The main thing is you are keeping a sense of proportion on this, apparently the young these days are wont to hyperbole and exaggeration."

- "And of course the next generation won't be fixing the problems using the tools bequeathed to them by the previous generations will they? When the youth finally implement fusion, wind or wave energy as a means of clean energy production they'll be inventing it from a standing start on an abacus."


If you feel the need to rehash these same old tired ass arguments then you are exactly the type of person OK Boomer is aimed at.


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If I thought there was a hope in hell of that term being confined to attacking just those people, for those reasons, with those attitudes then I'd agree. It won't be. It'll become a bastardised shorthand and used to close down discussion between older and younger groups. I guess we'll both see how it develops but the usage in this thread so far doesn't give cause for optimism.
Sadly, it's past time for a lot of the discussions between older and younger generations to be shut down so we can get off our collective asses and do something. I have no problem with anyone using OK Boomer as shorthand to kill another bullshit conversation where you have to explain to some old fuddy duddy that obvious shit is obvious.
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I don't think I get into any cross-generational blaming or name calling. I will, however, willingly express my opinions as to what I think about various trends and developments. I eagerly express my reactions to modern developments which I do not understand and appreciate, hoping to have the benefits/attraction explained to me. And I greatly appreciate that I am well on the downslope, and that the future is up to those younger than me.

If I express something I thought was well thought out and supported, and someone replied w/ a catch phrase, my response would probably just be to decide the individual was not worth my time/interest, and to disengage as soon as possible. I'd be less interested in someone's ability to come up with what they consider to be a clever rejoinder, than in learning what they are actually DOING that is different/better than previous generations.
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I'm guessing this will last about as long as "Thanks Obama." It's going to get old quickly, even for non-boomers.
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We're going to have to agree to disagree about that. I submitted a post with my opinion on the subject and you immediately started to nitpick and dismiss my position with:

- "poor results in what way? is the world a better or worse place overall since the second world war? by what metric?"

- "The main thing is you are keeping a sense of proportion on this, apparently the young these days are wont to hyperbole and exaggeration."

- "And of course the next generation won't be fixing the problems using the tools bequeathed to them by the previous generations will they? When the youth finally implement fusion, wind or wave energy as a means of clean energy production they'll be inventing it from a standing start on an abacus."


If you feel the need to rehash these same old tired ass arguments then you are exactly the type of person OK Boomer is aimed at.




Sadly, it's past time for a lot of the discussions between older and younger generations to be shut down so we can get off our collective asses and do something. I have no problem with anyone using OK Boomer as shorthand to kill another bullshit conversation where you have to explain to some old fuddy duddy that obvious shit is obvious.
This attitude is failed, dangerous and myopic. History is packed full of people who think they know a lot more than they do.

'Doing something' can be worse than doing nothing and history has many examples. Large scale social engineering almost always makes things much worse. Leninist/Stalinist USSR, Maoist China, Khmer Rouge Cambodia, post WWII Eastern Europe, Nazi Germany. Some of the more extreme climate change proposals will lead to economic disaster, starvation and war. It will not make things better.

If you cant convince a large enough percentage of the population then your ideas probably arent good enough.
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Oh FFS, how many times does it have to be said that if it ain't about you then it ain't about you? Anyone gnashing and slobbering over "Okay, boomer" is probably also one who insists on intoning "BUT NOT ALL MEN" in any feminist discussion. Knock it off, you fucking snowflake, if you don't feel you fit the profile then ignore it like any sensible person because all your freaking out is doing is making it titanically obvious that you DO feel a sense of being picked on that indicates you ARE the one being talked about--and if that's the case then SHUT UP AND DO BETTER. Fucking babies. Bad Janet has the right of it--they're called baby boomers because one little pinprick to their ego and boom, they become babies.
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We're going to have to agree to disagree about that. I submitted a post with my opinion on the subject and you immediately started to nitpick and dismiss my position
You mean I asked you questions?
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When you complain that you are Gen X and not a boomer donít be surprised when the reply is ďOK boomer.Ē
Yes, and I'd like to propose using it (outside jokingly in this thread) should be treated the same way here as using "bless your heart" (which was my very first warning.)
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Oh FFS, how many times does it have to be said that if it ain't about you then it ain't about you?
If it is being used as a broad-brush for an entire demographic then it is about them isn't it? Whether they like it or not. Their input dismissed on the basis of age rather than the substance of the argument. It's a bullshit tactic when aimed at all young and a bullshit tactic when aimed at all of any other group.
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poor results in what way? is the world a better or worse place overall since the second world war? by what metric?
Is it hotter? Are there less animal species? Is there more microplastic in everything we eat?
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If I express something I thought was well thought out and supported, and someone replied w/ a catch phrase, my response would probably just be to decide the individual was not worth my time/interest, and to disengage as soon as possible.
You get that's the point of the meme, right? Someone saying, "OK, Boomer" isn't inviting you to engage in nuanced debate, they're telling you to shut up and go away.
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Is it hotter? Are there less animal species? Is there more microplastic in everything we eat?
Yes, Yes and Yes.

Is lfe expectancy increasing? Is absolutely poverty decreasing? Is democracy increasing? Would you prefer to be a random human being born into the world in 1945 or 1995?

My opinion is not that the world is a better place in every single way but that it is a better place overall than in the immediate post-war years. Yes, that means balancing the pros and cons and making a judgement. Your's may very well differ form mine but I would certainly prefer to be here and now than then and there.

The problems you mention are above are exactly the ones that I trust the younger generation to tackle successfully.
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Oh FFS, how many times does it have to be said that if it ain't about you then it ain't about you? Anyone gnashing and slobbering over "Okay, boomer" is probably also one who insists on intoning "BUT NOT ALL MEN" in any feminist discussion. Knock it off, you fucking snowflake, if you don't feel you fit the profile then ignore it like any sensible person because all your freaking out is doing is making it titanically obvious that you DO feel a sense of being picked on that indicates you ARE the one being talked about--and if that's the case then SHUT UP AND DO BETTER. Fucking babies. Bad Janet has the right of it--they're called baby boomers because one little pinprick to their ego and boom, they become babies.
The point is it is about you. For about a day and a half when it first started maybe it meant something only to a certain percentage of people. Now itís being used just to shut up anyone that you donít disagree with. That will include you as well no matter what your age is. It took maybe a couple of days after I first saw it when I saw 20-somethings using it with no irony against other 20-somethings. Itís already become as meaningful as the term snowflake.

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Sadly, it's past time for a lot of the discussions between older and younger generations to be shut down so we can get off our collective asses and do something. I have no problem with anyone using OK Boomer as shorthand to kill another bullshit conversation where you have to explain to some old fuddy duddy that obvious shit is obvious.
One of the gifts of age is the wisdom to understand how little you actually knew when you were young. Ever since we came out of trees and crawled out of caves the new generation has always thought the older one didnít know what the hell they were talking about. And here you are thinking you discovered something new. Itís pretty amusing.
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Yes, and I'd like to propose using it (outside jokingly in this thread) should be treated the same way here as using "bless your heart" (which was my very first warning.)
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Now itís being used just to shut up anyone that you donít disagree with.
That does seem over-broad.
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You get that's the point of the meme, right? Someone saying, "OK, Boomer" isn't inviting you to engage in nuanced debate, they're telling you to shut up and go away.
Happy to oblige them. I'm trying to think of a time - after I was an adult - that I didn't think there was something I could gain from my elders' experiences. But I have zero desire to interact with anyone who doesn't wish to.
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Is lfe expectancy increasing?
Is that an unmitigated good thing? Let's ask the Japanese...
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Is that rise out of poverty directly correlated with an increase in ecological footprint?

I want poverty reduction, but in the right way.
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The problems you mention are above are exactly the ones that I trust the younger generation to tackle successfully.
There is no magically bringing extinct species back. There is no cleanup for microplastics, especially since we haven't cut down on new plastic. There is nothing a younger generation can do to tackle those successfully (that isn't pure science fantasy)

And while there is something we can do to slow down Climate Change, it has to happen now. By the time a younger generation have any power to deal with it, it will be too late.

Guess which generation is in charge, and stopping that from happening?

Thanks, O'Boomers.

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You get that's the point of the meme, right? Someone saying, "OK, Boomer" isn't inviting you to engage in nuanced debate, they're telling you to shut up and go away.
Or maybe, just maybe, they're saying "FFS, why do you think you're so unique and special that you're the only jeenyus who's ever made these same tired arguments that I've had to listen to over and over and over for decades because people with your privilege are absolutely convinced that everyone is required and wants to listen to them?" When someone is just done and fed up with talking about a subject, they shut down and refuse to engage any more. This is a trauma response. Maybe if you hear "Okay boomer" really often you might consider shutting up and listening for a while? It won't kill you, it really won't.
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Happy to oblige them. I'm trying to think of a time - after I was an adult - that I didn't think there was something I could gain from my elders' experiences.
All of them? You never met someone older than you and thought, "This guy is an idiot!"?
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