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"Eddie Haskell" RIP


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Ken Osmond, dead at 76. Sad news. He sure did his part to make LITB the great show it was.
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Old 05-18-2020, 03:30 PM
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I can hear it now: "Good morning, Mr and Mrs Cleaver. It's so nice to see you both again!"

RIP, Eddie!
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Loved him---all smarmy with the parents but then all jive with Wally and Beav.
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I can hear it now: "Good morning, Mr and Mrs Cleaver. It's so nice to see you both again!"
"You're looking lovely today, Mrs. Cleaver." He was a great character.

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Dang. He's only five years older than I am.
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The little touch of acid that cut through the sugary sweetness of the Cleaver family. I'll bet any fan of the show can remember more memorable moments with Eddie than with Wally.
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Ah, Eddie. Not you too. RIP.
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The little touch of acid that cut through the sugary sweetness of the Cleaver family. I'll bet any fan of the show can remember more memorable moments with Eddie than with Wally.
Like the time he tricked Beaver into telling his new friend he had a face like a pig in Spanish?
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The little touch of acid that cut through the sugary sweetness of the Cleaver family. I'll bet any fan of the show can remember more memorable moments with Eddie than with Wally.
Excellent analysis of that dynamic.
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The humor Eddie Haskell brought to LITB cannot be overstated.

And the skill with which Osmond portrayed him, though widely recognized, remains underappreciated IMO.

One of my all-time favorite characters.


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"Oh, it's that Eddie Haskell. I sure do hate him!"

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Best character on the show.

My son has a friend who is an Eddie Haskell type, as least as far as being complementary and polite to me. He does have that mischievous smile that lets you know he's sometimes up to no good. All in all, though he's a good kid.
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Old 05-18-2020, 04:22 PM
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Eddie and Lumpy, together again. I used to watch that show every week. And I followed in Ward's footsteps by joining the Seabees.
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As an adult he became a police officer with the LAPD where he eventually became a motorcycle officer. He was shot during a foot chase and eventually medically retired.
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Best character on the show.
Indeed. Sometime around 1980 I went to a "Jerry Mathers Speaks" event at USD. It wasn't expensive, just a few bucks to hear him reminisce a little and take questions from the audience.
I proudly wore my "Eddie Haskell Lives!" tee shirt.
Jerry came out, gave a rather uninspired little talk. Mentioned the crazy rumors about his death in VietNam, Tony Dow's supposed porn career; talked about how the cast members still kept in touch with each other.
Then he took questions from the audience. I remember the first question being about Barbara Billingsley ("How is she, what's she doing"), and possibly a question about the kid who played Larry Mondello. Then, the question- "How's Ken Osmond?"
Jerry hesitated for a moment, and then without a word of introduction Ken Osmond quietly strolled onstage from the wings. He hadn't been mentioned in any of the advance notices.
The audience went berserk. An extended standing ovation, cheers, whistles.
When he finally started talking he was kind of quiet and understated. I know I was surprised to hear him say that he had never understood Eddie's popularity- the character he liked most was Ward. Even as he was playing our favorite weasel, he was identifying with Ward's "honest, decent, family man." (Close enough to his exact words.) This was either during or shortly after his career with the LAPD.

At the meet & greet afterwards, after having my Eddie tee shirt autographed by both Eddie and The Beav, I happened to overhear a man and woman who were part Jerry and Ken's entourage talking to some other people. The guy was telling someone "It's been like that everywhere we've appeared. They go wild when Ken walks out."

This is a celebrity death that actually hurts a little.
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Great story TC.

Eddie was my favorite character. One of the great 'villains' on TV.
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This was either during or shortly after his career with the LAPD.
That would have been right in the middle. He was with the LAPD from 1970 to 1988.
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So sorry to see you go, Eddie. RIP.
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That would have been right in the middle. He was with the LAPD from 1970 to 1988.
I've been trying to check my date, and now think it was 1975-78. (Which doesn't affect your point.)
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I've been trying to check my date, and now think it was 1975-78. (Which doesn't affect your point.)
That would have been before he was shot in 1980. He apparently wasnít injured too badly. Bullets were stopped by his vest. I never saw why he was medically retired 8 years later but itís really none of our business.
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Great story, TreacherousCretin. Thank you. Eddie Haskell was a memorable character.

RIP, Ken Osmond.
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Old 05-19-2020, 05:51 AM
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I loved Ward's wry, knowing comment on one of Eddie's smarmy shows of excess courtesy: "That boy's so polite, it's almost un-American".

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Like the time he tricked Beaver into telling his new friend he had a face like a pig in Spanish?
And when told by Wally that it was a dirty trick, Eddie's reply spoke volumes about his upbringing: "Hey, my dad says nothing's a dirty trick it it's funny!"

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...Tony Dow's supposed porn career...
I never heard this. I did hear the rumor that Ken Osmond grew up to be a well-known porn star to whom he did bear a slight resemblance. Around 1990, I read that the rumor was widespread enough that Osmond (who was apparently fairly religious) brought it up to his church to quell it.

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Yes, Eddie Haskell did NOT grow up to be John C. Holmes.
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That makes me sad. I've always been a LITB fan. I watched the reruns in the 70s and again and again throughout my adult life. I just started DVR-ing it a few weeks ago (2 episodes from 7-8am) and watch at least one episode every evening. I just saw the episode where Wally volunteers to coach Beaver's football team. He asks Beaver if Eddie can coach too. Beaver says something like - "nah Eddie's a mean guy". Wally tells him he'll make Eddie just stand around. Beaver says - "Eddie is one of those guys that's mean even if he's just standing around".
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I guess the rumor had legs because while Ken Osmond--selfless, brave, churchgoing--was about as far as you could get from the abusive, drug-addicted, porn star murderer, it's not hard to imagine Eddie Haskell turning out like that.
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The other Eddie Haskell episode I remember well is the one where he changed Beaver's report card from a D- to a B+. When Ward told him not to come around if he ever did such a thing again, Eddie said "I probably wouldn't have done it if Clarence [Lumpy Rutherford] hadn't been there to urge me on." Yeah, right.
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I never heard this. (Tony Dow in porn. T.C.) I did hear the rumor that Ken Osmond grew up to be a well-known porn star to whom he did bear a slight resemblance. Around 1990, I read that the rumor was widespread enough that Osmond (who was apparently fairly religious) brought it up to his church to quell it.
I remember that one as well, never knew Ken actually addressed it. (And good for him, say I.) If I remember correctly the Tony Dow version may have arisen because of a name similarity.
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I just watched the episode ("Summer in Alaska") where Wally, Lumpy, Eddie and Beaver are discussing summer jobs. Eddie is bragging about a job (which turns out not to be everything he says). Beaver says he may be delivering papers, to which Eddie sneers, "Delivering papers! Well, a member of the Fourth Estate!"

I once read a commentary by a woman who was a young Beatles fan during Beatlemania. She said that when she first saw them interviewed, she was struck by how they cooperated with each other: one would answer a question, another would agree and underscore that answer with additional comments, etc. She said it was a clear contrast with American boys of the time, who always seemed to be one-upping and putting each other down.

Ward's comment (in my post #21) aside, Eddie may have been the most American boy of them all.
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I often wonder what it was about Eddie that made him so appealing to us. I doubt that most of us would've wanted to be around him much. We wouldn't have trusted him any farther than we could throw him. Did we see a little glimmer of ourselves in him? Or what.

Discuss amongst yourselves.
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I often wonder what it was about Eddie that made him so appealing to us. I doubt that most of us would've wanted to be around him much. We wouldn't have trusted him any farther than we could throw him. Did we see a little glimmer of ourselves in him? Or what.

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I think I last saw him on an episode of Penn and Teller Bullshit, in which he helped to dispel notions that the 1950s were some kind of utopia.
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That would have been before he was shot in 1980. He apparently wasnít injured too badly. Bullets were stopped by his vest. I never saw why he was medically retired 8 years later but itís really none of our business.

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