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Old 07-29-2019, 11:52 AM
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"Another Life" in Netflix


Let me start by saying I'm not a huge Sci Fi fan - especially shows that want to be taken seriously but can't be bothered to do even basic research. I can suspend a certain amount of disbelief and accept certain future innovations. But there are limits to my acceptance, and I've found a show that exceeds those limits.

That, my friends, is Another Life. I've only watched it because my husband loves SciFi and he had the remote. I bit back all my snark, since it tends to piss him off, but here, I will spill it.

Bad acting, bad writing, inane story lines, an electronics technician who blames everything on "a short somewhere", and dialog that is ridiculously over-peppered with fuck and shit and their variations. (I began to wonder if they are paid for every version of fuck they could put in a sentence.) And that's not even addressing how the ship is supposedly many light-years from earth, but they can video chat with zero time delay.

Has anyone else watched this debacle? Am I missing something or is it as wretched as I think it is?
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Old 07-29-2019, 12:21 PM
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It's exactly as wretched as you think it is. The husband stands out dramatically in a sea of terrible acting as the Head Lead Very Bad Worst Actor. The whole thing is a mishmosh of influences and tone and cultural references all jammed together in the very worst way.

And I know this is heresy among sci-fi fans, but I really dislike Katee Sackhoff.
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We need to save the world and we have to send out a 6 month space voyage to do so.

Let's get a bunch of whiny-somethings with the emotional maturity of 7th graders and send them off together. Should work out just right. For fun we could throw in a new commander and make the old commander and all of his whiny crew act as subordinates.

By the way, we also possess the technology to instantly communicate with the ship from any ice cream shoppe. Let's only use that technology to talk with clueless husbands and children and not use it for Earth command to assess the mental health of the crew. After all, we could watch them constantly but why bother.


We made it through episode 1. I'm going to try ep 2 but my expectations of wanting to watch future episodes past that one are pretty low.
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Y’all are taking it way too seriously, this is not supposed to be hard sci-fi, it falls more in the Firefly-STTNG realm of character drama with a scifi backdrop.

That said, I enjoyed the first 3 episodes or so, but after that it seems to be slowly sliding off the rails. If you don’t love the first few episodes, probably best not to continue.

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We need to save the world and we have to send out a 6 month space voyage to do so.

Let's get a bunch of whiny-somethings with the emotional maturity of 7th graders and send them off together. Should work out just right. For fun we could throw in a new commander and make the old commander and all of his whiny crew act as subordinates.

By the way, we also possess the technology to instantly communicate with the ship from any ice cream shoppe. Let's only use that technology to talk with clueless husbands and children and not use it for Earth command to assess the mental health of the crew. After all, we could watch them constantly but why bother.


We made it through episode 1. I'm going to try ep 2 but my expectations of wanting to watch future episodes past that one are pretty low.

I made it up to the first video conference and bailed. Nice to see my conclusions validated. Started re-watching Season 3 of The Expanse to get it out of my system.

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I've skipped around in a couple of episodes, and what little I saw seemed really cheesy, and with an FX budget of approximately three fiddy.
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Interesting bit on one of the props on the show.
Reminds me of an episode of Andromeda that showed Sarracenia leucophylla as an exotic alien "oxygen generating" plant.
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Interestingly enough, a coworker gave me a rambutan a couple of weeks ago. It is a weird fruit, for sure.
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Yeah the whole "What is this mysterious thing? Let's spend the entire series trying to find out but never actually get any answers" thing doesn't appeal to me.
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4.5 on IMDB. Ouch. Voters there tend to be tougher on movies than tv too. Pass.
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Interesting bit on one of the props on the show.
Reminds me of an episode of Andromeda that showed Sarracenia leucophylla as an exotic alien "oxygen generating" plant.

Okay, just that one screen shot of him feeding it to her....WhyTF is that even a thing on a deep-space mission? "Hey, we're trillions of miles from Earth, better get in some kinky fruit sexy stuff!"


Let me guess: at some point one of them puts their bare hand in some Alien Goo, right?
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Okay, just that one screen shot of him feeding it to her....WhyTF is that even a thing on a deep-space mission? "Hey, we're trillions of miles from Earth, better get in some kinky fruit sexy stuff!"
I mentioned skipping around in a couple of episodes--I literally watched maybe 30 random seconds of the series, and coincidentally that moment is one that I landed on. You think it looks bad in a screenshot? In action it looked like something from a low-budget 1970's porn film.
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We're watching it, but there are a lot of holes. So many, many holes.
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I have not seen it, but the overall consensus is that it is bad. I would NOT base scifi tv on this show.

Feel bad for Kara Thrace.....uh, I mean Katee Sackhoff. She deserves to be on something awesome again.
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I want to like it, but there are some major problems. One - every scene with the young daughter is a Jar Jar Binks scene - they are wasting valuable screen time on these awkward interactions. We get it - the parents love their child, like most people. Move on with some story development.

Two - Ian is absolutely right about Niko - all she cares about is her daughter, and there is no way she should be in charge of this mission.

Three - Who in their right minds sends *two* captains in the same ship?!? Okay, maybe one asleep as back-up, but two awake at the same time? That’s just asking for trouble. And the insubordination that Niko puts up with - no way, man!

Four - Go to a completely different planet and take your helmet off because it seems like the air would be breathable? Are you shitting me? They deserve to have their spinal columns pull themselves out of their bodies!
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I want to like it, but there are some major problems. One - every scene with the young daughter is a Jar Jar Binks scene - they are wasting valuable screen time on these awkward interactions. We get it - the parents love their child, like most people. Move on with some story development.

Two - Ian is absolutely right about Niko - all she cares about is her daughter, and there is no way she should be in charge of this mission.

Three - Who in their right minds sends *two* captains in the same ship?!? Okay, maybe one asleep as back-up, but two awake at the same time? Thatís just asking for trouble. And the insubordination that Niko puts up with - no way, man!

Four - Go to a completely different planet and take your helmet off because it seems like the air would be breathable? Are you shitting me? They deserve to have their spinal columns pull themselves out of their bodies!
And five- How the fuck did angry lady pass the psyche test?
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Two - Ian is absolutely right about Niko - all she cares about is her daughter, and there is no way she should be in charge of this mission.

Three - Who in their right minds sends *two* captains in the same ship?!? Okay, maybe one asleep as back-up, but two awake at the same time? Thatís just asking for trouble. And the insubordination that Niko puts up with - no way, man!
Ya know, as cheesy as Star Trek can be - this reveals one of the things that I really like about it. Gene Roddenberry's idea of "no conflict among the crew" was too extreme, but once he was no longer involved it became what it should have been: these people are fucking professionals. Sure, they may not agree with each other all the time or even like each other sometimes, but when the captain says Make It So, you shut the fuck up and do your job. And that allowed conflict to arise naturally from the dangers they faced during their adventures, rather than incessant soap-opera nonsense among the characters.
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Interesting bit on one of the props on the show.
Reminds me of an episode of Andromeda that showed Sarracenia leucophylla as an exotic alien "oxygen generating" plant.
Ha! The number of times Star Trek had common South African plants as "exotic alien flower" made me laugh - set dressers seem to love proteas and strelizias
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Yíall are taking it way too seriously, this is not supposed to be hard sci-fi, it falls more in the Firefly-STTNG realm of character drama with a scifi backdrop.

That said, I enjoyed the first 3 episodes or so, but after that it seems to be slowly sliding off the rails. If you donít love the first few episodes, probably best not to continue.
For it to be sliding off the rails, it would need to be on rails first. Which it isnít. It never, ever is. Also, all of the posts in this thread are understating the awfulness of this show. When Jellybeans made a puke-flavored one, at least it was interesting - by golly, it tastes a little like puke! Apparently the creators of this show wanted to see if this works for the TV equivalent. It doesnít.
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Feel bad for Kara Thrace.....uh, I mean Katee Sackhoff. She deserves to be on something awesome again.
Why? I think she's given a hell of a lot of love for being in Battlestar: Galactica, and that geeknerd fanservice appearance in the Big Bang Theory, and I don't know why she deserves it. Also, BsG sucked after about the halfway point, right about the time Apollo had to act as a lawyer or something like that.

I starting a thread about, "Another Life" a few days ago myself, but decided to just delete it. This series pissed me off in the very first episode. They're saving the world, so they gathered the most dysfunctional crew imaginable, one that can't function more than 24 hours after waking from cryosleep without mutiny. The one thing that kept me watching it was that they KILLED the mutineer so quickly. It gave me hope for the rest of the series that was dashed quickly enough.

Even though the crew did the most stupid things for no reason I'd seen since Prometheus, I won't be quite as harsh as others. It wasn't great, or even good, but it occupied my time, and I thought the sets & fx weren't the worst I'd ever seen.
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Having most of the crew be in their late teens and early twenties is absolutely one of the stupidest ideas ever.

Having the guy who didn't get the job on the ship = stupid

Having his girlfriend on the ship = stupid

Having the captain pilot the space craft manually past a sun (including her best guess at when to sling shot) = stupid

Having an AI to run the ship who continually cannot run the ship = stupid

None of the crew seems to have any idea at all about best practices for interacting with other planets or alien life (let's open our helmets, let's try to eat things, let's deeply inhale psychotropic pollen) = oh my god, so stupid

I could handle it if the crew didn't act like they were doing a teen series on the CW.
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Something else that makes me crazy, tho it's not exclusive to this show - it seems whenever something electrical or electronic malfunctions, it's always "a short." I'm guessing that's the only electrical failure that TV writers are aware of. Maybe I'm overly sensitive about it since I was an electronics technician many years ago, but, dang, not everything is due to a short...
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Glad I'm not in a minority, I made it through 1/2 of the 1st episode and threw in the towel, what a shitty show.
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... Has anyone else watched this debacle? Am I missing something or is it as wretched as I think it is?
I watched it and hated it the whole time.
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And I know this is heresy among sci-fi fans, but I really dislike Katee Sackhoff.
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From what I have seen, Katee can barely act. She has a small but devoted following of fanboys from Battlestar but that is all. She was terrible on the Flash, and the comments I saw agreed. I first saw her on Longmire and she stood out as the worst actor in a cast that included Lou Diamond Phillips.
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I had never heard of this show until all the media attention about how horrible it was. Maybe I should watch it?
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From what I have seen, Katee can barely act. She has a small but devoted following of fanboys from Battlestar but that is all. She was terrible on the Flash, and the comments I saw agreed. I first saw her on Longmire and she stood out as the worst actor in a cast that included Lou Diamond Phillips.
Oh, Lou Diamond Phillips on Longmire. He did the old Data trick of not using contractions to make his speech sound stilted. It keeps coming back to STNG.
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Go for it. It will stun and amaze you.

No, seriously, interesting premise, but the execution - not so great.
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Go for it. It will stun and amaze you.

No, seriously, interesting premise, but the execution - not so great.
Now I'm intrigued: what about the premise did you find interesting?
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Now I'm intrigued: what about the premise did you find interesting?
Can't speak for Cat, but an enigmatic First Contact scenario, and Earth sending its first (and so far only) starship out to check out its (supposed) planet of origin, and running into the perils of real deep-space travel and exploration. Good fodder for a decent sci-fi series.

Of course most of the perils are, as have been noted upthread, crew-induced stupidity.

Like the hot-shot XO mutinying and overriding Cautious Captain's caution by trying to "slingshot" around a completely unknown/unmapped star, using the Hyperdrive shield-bubble to protect the ship. Except that they have no solid idea of the solar flare activity patterns of said star, and a super-flare erupts right in front of them, overloading & popping the shield-bubble, and almost wrecking their shiny new starship.

Then the XO, who came up with the previous boneheaded idea, deciding that Cautious Captain has to go, and getting himself killed for it.

Then landing on a planet with MacGuffin Crystals, in an attempt to replenish supplies, only to later find a large-ish moon in an extremely low orbit causing lethally catastrophic seismic activity (to the MacGuffin Miners) that they somehow missed, because they didn't bother to take a few laps around the planet first in order to see what might be around it that might pose any kind of hazard.

Then several crew members (who are supposed to be trained astronauts) popping their spacesuit helmets in a completely alien environment in order to breathe fresh air. In fairness, the first one checked O2 levels/atmospheric content before doing so, so they knew they had breathable atmo. But they completely overlooked any kind of biologicals screening.

Most of the crew act like petulant, spoiled, entitled assholes, not educated, trained professionals.

I can go on, but I think these few examples illustrate the Promethean levels of stupidity in this show.

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It is one of those shows I want so desperately to like. The fundamentals are there. First contact. Friendly aliens or not. How to communicate with other life forms. Space exploration.

But then there's idiocy like the ship splitting in half and needing to be manually re-docked and clicked into place with something that locked like a seat belt. Flying by hand, of course, because the AI can't AI and humans can totally line up immense objects, blindly, to an error of margin of none.

Maybe if they fired almost the entire cast, all of the writers, and kept the sets, it would work out.
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Count me in as "I can't believe I watched the whole thing and I don't even know why!"

The special effects were terrible right from the start. I kept hoping it would get better,... it got worse.

The advanced technology on the ship did not match the technology back on Earth.

The communication with Earth was stupid and impossible. Even if they could travel FTL, how can they send messages back and forth in real time?

William, the AI was ridiculous. It's a program, an avatar of the interface to the computer systems running the ship. Having thoughts, emotions, free-will, etc.. made him fucking useless.

I don't want to spoiler the ending but ... what did they think would happen?
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I can go on, but I think these few examples illustrate the Promethean levels of stupidity in this show.
What he said.

I don't know why the show is so ham-handed; is it just that this is what science fiction is like when it is done by people who have no experience with science fiction? I've read countless science fiction books that had alien first contact/space ship travels/faster than light travel/humans walking around on totally new planets as their premises, and very few of them were as badly done as this series. Science fiction is not a free-for-all where you can just have people doing any old shit, for any old reason; there are reasonable constraints, like if the people are just too stupid and incompetent, they all die. If you want to pull magic rabbits out of your ass, you have to WORK for them!
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I watched the first two episodes. Holy crap on a cracker it is bad. So very very bad. If I had known it was this bad going in, then I might have enjoyed the first two episodes on a laughing at the awfulness level. But as an actual show worth watching, oh boy.
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My wife and I started watching it in July and it quickly turned to us hate watching it. Hate watching really wasn't worth it either so we just kind of gave up on it and started watching New Girl reruns.
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I couldn't finish.

I'd be open to "hate watching" it if I thought there was going to be any closure on what the thing is.
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Oh, there's "closure" on what it is.

My husband at one point said, "I think this is a 2 beer show." I think more intoxication than that is needed.
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