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Truth hurts, you whiny little white trash punk.
Now you are being racist as well as stupid and a hypocrite. Shame!
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That is seriously fucked up.
I agree. It shocks me that that kind of premeditated group racism can still occur.
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He's just one of our resident floundering Dunning-Kruger idjits who's convinced he'll land the mother of all GOTCHAs one day, meanwhile exhibiting all the dexterity and elegance of Sideshow Bob in a field of rakes.

D'Anconia is another subprime example of this phenomenon. I assume octopus is still whiffing on a regular basis too, although I couldn't say for sure.
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Rodriguez was beaten by a black woman. It must be hard and tiring smashing a brick on a 92 year old. Poor blawommin. Probably chipped a nail.
Talk us through this. Snarky whataboutism or just your pleasant self?
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Talk us through this. Snarky whataboutism or just your pleasant self?
Well, well, well. A good question! Neither.

It’s just ironic with the subject of the thread being what it is that the OP linked a story where the one making it hard for a POC, the victim being a dark beige, is in fact black. La-bashia got a workout. She can join BBQ-Betty and the gang in the racist hall of shame.
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Old 07-11-2018, 02:39 AM
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I grew up in the 1950's and 1960's in what would now be called the "Greater Silicon Valley" area of California. Our community wasn't one of the wealthiest but it was above median, and for most of 12 years, 1st-grade to 12th-grade, AFAIK there wasn't a single black student ever enrolled in our school district. (Black home-seekers were steered away by realtors.) So we witnessed very little anti-black discrimination: there were zero blacks to discriminate against!

My mother, bless her heart, insisted we make friends with a black family who lived literally on the other side of the railroad tracks. They had a boy my age and I remember hearing that he came home one day in tears and tried to scrub the black color off his skin with soap.

Recently I've been reading so many many heart-rending stories, like those OP mentions. Are things getting worse? Or is reporting just more thorough now? I fear that the ascendancy of Trump (and Republicans more generally) has empowered bigots to express their hatreds.

There have been threads like "Is American Civil War possible?" and Dopers reply, "No, not in OUR country." But I cannot be sanguine: when violence comes it can come very suddenly.
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Still no answer.

It is a simple question: Who is Black? Where do you modern day racialists draw that line? I’ve heard of the “one drop rule” and the “paper bag test”. Are these still current in the literature?
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Still no answer.
Like you say, you have no intention of receiving one. Your MO is to disrupt threads with your barking mad ideas about how the world works and then when called on it to fling incoherent insults at everyone. Well done you.
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One good thing I can see in that story about the police officer drawing his gun on the kids: Their parents are doing an excellent job of raising them. Don't respond to violence with more violence: Respond to violence with truth. That's how the Good Guys are going to win in the end, even if it takes far longer than it should: With the truth. And modern technology is making it easier and easier for the truth to get out.
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Oh, as an aside, does the thread title have West Side Story running through anyone else's head?

Living while black in America
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All that we lack in America
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Hey, they could be taking a nap to rest up for their robbery and murder spree.
Or more common scenario, they could be another student's "functional" junkie friend whose currently between living spaces who steals whatever is convenient before leaving the dorm in the morning.
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Old 07-11-2018, 09:36 AM
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Or more common scenario
Perhaps where you're from, but this took place in the real world.
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Old 07-11-2018, 09:43 AM
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Perhaps where you're from, but this took place in the real world.
On university campuses crimes of opportunity are rather common. The most common form of theft result from leaving something unattended (usually textbooks or electronics) or a dorm room door unlocked. Some morons will even leave their wallets in an an unlocked dorm room. If Ms. Sleeping Student had been assaulted or robbed by a dorm visitor while she was sleeping in the common area she would probably immediately demand stricter security measures.
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Old 07-11-2018, 09:47 AM
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Imagine what would happen if a dorm visitor tried to shake her hand!!! She'd be calling for 24 hour dorm patrols!
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ZPG, I had no idea you were this stupid.
I had no idea you were this naive. Seriously, petty thieves love knowing people like you still exist. It makes their jobs so much easier.
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Being a grown-assed man, 20yo sleeping females don't ping my threat assessment radar. They didn't even when I was a kid. Don't know what frightened your ass, but your arguments are stupid and, frankly, emasculating.
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Old 07-11-2018, 10:26 AM
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Or more common scenario, they could be another student's "functional" junkie friend whose currently between living spaces who steals whatever is convenient before leaving the dorm in the morning.
A far more common scenario: a resident nods off while studying, reading, or watching TV. And another thing to keep in mind -- by choosing to call the police on a young black person who may not have done anything wrong, you could be seriously endangering their life. Doesn't seem worth it to me when the likelihood is very high that they've done nothing wrong.
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A far more common scenario: a resident nods off while studying, reading, or watching TV. And another thing to keep in mind -- by choosing to call the police on a young black person who may not have done anything wrong, you could be seriously endangering their life. Doesn't seem worth it to me when the likelihood is very high that they've done nothing wrong.
Get burglarized a few times or assaulted and your opinion may change. By choosing to sleep in the common area rather than in their dorm bedroom, the student put themselves at risk for having a police officer called on them. Being asked for identification in a dorm at 1:30 a.m. in the morning is fairly standard safety precaution. And as if I have said before if Ms. Sleeping Student had been assaulted or robbed (or had penises drawn on her face with a Sharpie, a common prank on some campuses) by a non-dorm resident that someone else had let into the building, she would no doubt be demanding increased security measures.
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Get burglarized a few times or assaulted and your opinion may change. By choosing to sleep in the common area rather than in their dorm bedroom, the student put themselves at risk for having a police officer called on them. Being asked for identification in a dorm at 1:30 a.m. in the morning is fairly standard safety precaution. And as if I have said before if Ms. Sleeping Student had been assaulted or robbed (or had penises drawn on her face with a Sharpie, a common prank on some campuses) by a non-dorm resident that someone else had let into the building, she would no doubt be demanding increased security measures.
This might be one of the dumbest posts I've read on this website.
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Old 07-11-2018, 11:05 AM
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Still no answer.

It is a simple question: Who is Black? Where do you modern day racialists draw that line? I’ve heard of the “one drop rule” and the “paper bag test”. Are these still current in the literature?
Gosh, you're just so erudite and. . .existentialist. . .about it all.
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Old 07-11-2018, 11:53 AM
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Woman calls cops on black 12-year-old boy delivering newspapers in Ohio neighborhood

From that story: "First day of paper route and we are pulled over by the police"

I find that quote incredibly sad
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Old 07-11-2018, 11:58 AM
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Still no answer.

It is a simple question: Who is Black? Where do you modern day racialists draw that line? I’ve heard of the “one drop rule” and the “paper bag test”. Are these still current in the literature?
I posted this in the thread you just started but I'll repeat it here.

White people are people who get treated like white people. Black people are people who get treated like black people.

If you think that white people and black people get treated the same, you're living in that delusion.
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Living while black in America
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Well, NOW it does!

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Woman calls cops on black 12-year-old boy delivering newspapers in Ohio neighborhood

From that story: "First day of paper route and we are pulled over by the police"

I find that quote incredibly sad
If my neighbor sees someone drive up to my house, approach it empty-handed, and return to the vehicle holding something, I hope they call the police.
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If my neighbor sees someone drive up to my house, approach it empty-handed, and return to the vehicle holding something, I hope they call the police.
You ever send a return via UPS or Fed Ex?
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Old 07-11-2018, 01:42 PM
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If my neighbor sees someone drive up to my house, approach it empty-handed, and return to the vehicle holding something, I hope they call the police.
I would prefer they USE THEIR WORDS.

"Hey guys, sorry to bother you, but it looked like y'all were taking something from my neighbor's house. I just want to make sure everything's ok."

"[Explanation ensues]"

"Gotcha, cool, and thank you! I figured it wasn't anything sketch. Good luck with your paper route, kiddo--I promise it'll get easier!"




I mean, I totally get that calling the cops on randos is easier. But jesus.
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It must be nice going through life and cherry picking examples to make your case. Unfortunately, you are very wrong in the aggregate. Feel free to google at will regarding these following facts. You will see that these facts and quantifiable statistics fully dispel your one-off myths:

"Incidents of black-on-white crimes far exceed the reverse scenario. 'In 2012, blacks committed 560,600 acts of violence against whites (excluding homicide), and whites committed 99,403 acts of violence (excluding homicide) against blacks,' writes the Manhattan Institute’s Heather MacDonald, citing Federal Bureau of Justice Statistics data. 'Blacks, in other words, committed 85 percent of the non-homicide interracial crimes of violence between blacks and whites, even though they are less than 13 percent of the population.'"

SOURCE: https://www.manhattan-institute.org/...news-9891.html

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You ever send a return via UPS or Fed Ex?
Only via a drop box or UPS or FedEx store. Assuming front door pickups are even a thing, in that case you have a marked vehicle and someone in uniform.

Good disguises I guess if you're a criminal but IME package thieves aren't running that sophisticated an operation.
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Despite this thread teetering on the rails due to a few proud racists, I'd like to share a friend's statistics (he's black). In about nine years of living and driving in Washington state, he's been pulled over 26 times and received only 4 tickets.

He did not have the same problem while living in the L.A. area, but was once detained for nearly an hour for "matching a description." For that, it was especially an indignity because he saw the guy they eventually arrested. My friend is tall and skinny, the real suspect was short and fat (and wearing wildly different clothes).

But, please, go back to the discussion about how black people aren't really treated differently but when they are it's totally justified.
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Despite this thread teetering on the rails due to a few proud racists, I'd like to share a friend's statistics (he's black). In about nine years of living and driving in Washington state, he's been pulled over 26 times and received only 4 tickets.

He did not have the same problem while living in the L.A. area, but was once detained for nearly an hour for "matching a description." For that, it was especially an indignity because he saw the guy they eventually arrested. My friend is tall and skinny, the real suspect was short and fat (and wearing wildly different clothes).

But, please, go back to the discussion about how black people aren't really treated differently but when they are it's totally justified.
I don't think anyone is having that imaginary discussion. Please leave the poor strawperson alone. The battering it has received on these forums is borderline sadistic at this point.
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Only via a drop box or UPS or FedEx store. Assuming front door pickups are even a thing, in that case you have a marked vehicle and someone in uniform.

Good disguises I guess if you're a criminal but IME package thieves aren't running that sophisticated an operation.
You are right. It's nothing like the sophistication of having a child's mother drive him around a neighborhood stealing stuff off of porches. That takes exquisite planning and ingenuity.
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You are right. It's nothing like the sophistication of having a child's mother drive him around a neighborhood stealing stuff off of porches. That takes exquisite planning and ingenuity.
We already know you think it's "sad" to call the cops on people who are acting in a way that is consistent with an extremely common crime. So would you have ignored it or run out and confronted them?
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It must be nice going through life and cherry picking examples to make your case. Unfortunately, you are very wrong in the aggregate. Feel free to google at will regarding these following facts. You will see that these facts and quantifiable statistics fully dispel your one-off myths:

"Incidents of black-on-white crimes far exceed the reverse scenario. 'In 2012, blacks committed 560,600 acts of violence against whites (excluding homicide), and whites committed 99,403 acts of violence (excluding homicide) against blacks,' writes the Manhattan Institute’s Heather MacDonald, citing Federal Bureau of Justice Statistics data. 'Blacks, in other words, committed 85 percent of the non-homicide interracial crimes of violence between blacks and whites, even though they are less than 13 percent of the population.'"

SOURCE: https://www.manhattan-institute.org/...news-9891.html
What does this have to do with the topic being discussed here?
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We already know you think it's "sad" to call the cops on people who are acting in a way that is consistent with an extremely common crime. So would you have ignored it or run out and confronted them?
I wouldn't even know about it, since I don't continuously spy out of my windows.
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What does this have to do with the topic being discussed here?
Fuck me, I was sure that was going to be a post by someone who's been here for years, not some falling-off-the-turnip-truck asshole who registered just to post a bit of bog-standard racist claptrap!

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It must be nice going through life and cherry picking examples to make your case. Unfortunately, you are very wrong in the aggregate. Feel free to google at will regarding these following facts. You will see that these facts and quantifiable statistics fully dispel your one-off myths:
Under your reasoning it would be fine for the police to harass and brutalize innocent men, because in the aggregate men commit more crimes than women. In fact, it would be fine for the police to brutalize innocent white men because in the aggregate white men commit more crimes than Asian men.
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Fuck me, I was sure that was going to be a post by someone who's been here for years, not some falling-off-the-turnip-truck asshole who registered just to post a bit of bog-standard racist claptrap!

Will wonders never cease.
The turnip truck asshole has got plenty of company from the regulars, never fear.
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Get burglarized a few times or assaulted and your opinion may change. By choosing to sleep in the common area rather than in their dorm bedroom, the student put themselves at risk for having a police officer called on them. Being asked for identification in a dorm at 1:30 a.m. in the morning is fairly standard safety precaution. And as if I have said before if Ms. Sleeping Student had been assaulted or robbed (or had penises drawn on her face with a Sharpie, a common prank on some campuses) by a non-dorm resident that someone else had let into the building, she would no doubt be demanding increased security measures.
You've gone full from "She was obviously up to no good and a criminal and a horrible person to boot" to "Someone might draw a dick on her face".

Does your university not have key cards to get in the building? Shit, Iowa State's Friley Hall (the only dorm big enough for it's own zip code) had doors that locked at a certain time, except for one that went by a desk that was staffed 24 hours, and this was over 15 years ago. I'd wager Yale has a system at least as robust.
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Old 07-11-2018, 04:08 PM
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It must be nice going through life and cherry picking examples to make your case. Unfortunately, you are very wrong in the aggregate. Feel free to google at will regarding these following facts. You will see that these facts and quantifiable statistics fully dispel your one-off myths:

"Incidents of black-on-white crimes far exceed the reverse scenario. 'In 2012, blacks committed 560,600 acts of violence against whites (excluding homicide), and whites committed 99,403 acts of violence (excluding homicide) against blacks,' writes the Manhattan Institute’s Heather MacDonald, citing Federal Bureau of Justice Statistics data. 'Blacks, in other words, committed 85 percent of the non-homicide interracial crimes of violence between blacks and whites, even though they are less than 13 percent of the population.'"

SOURCE: https://www.manhattan-institute.org/...news-9891.html
Oh, good, a "racial realist".

Let me ask you, why do you think this situation exists? Do you feel that black people have some inherent trait that makes them more likely to break the law than white people? Or do you feel that the situation is the effect of black people being more likely to have grown up in an unfavorable environment that encourages crime than white people?

If it's the former and you believe that black people have something like a "crime gene" (along with a poverty gene, a poor education gene, an illegitimacy gene, and an unemployment gene) that white people don't have, then you're a racist.

If it's the latter and you believe that black people and white people basically start out the same and are products of the environment they grew up in, then explain why we should accept that black people are growing up in a significantly worse environment than white people are? Shouldn't we be working on improving that environment?
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You've gone full from "She was obviously up to no good and a criminal and a horrible person to boot" to "Someone might draw a dick on her face".
No, ZPG Zealot did not do that. All she's said is that having someone check id on a person sleeping in the common area is proper security practice. You can find her reasoning outlandish but there's no need to lie about her stance.

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No, ZPG Zealot did not do that. All she's said is that having someone check id on a person leeping in the common area is proper security practice.
What about if they just hop around a little?
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You've gone full from "She was obviously up to no good and a criminal and a horrible person to boot" to "Someone might draw a dick on her face".

Does your university not have key cards to get in the building? Shit, Iowa State's Friley Hall (the only dorm big enough for it's own zip code) had doors that locked at a certain time, except for one that went by a desk that was staffed 24 hours, and this was over 15 years ago. I'd wager Yale has a system at least as robust.
The problem is people will bring their friends or total strangers they think are somebody else's friends into the dorm. So unless all visitors are banned the residents of the dormitory are at the mercy of each other's ability to judge who is harmless and who is dangerous. College students are not experts in the this by any means and their mistakes shouldn't be allowed to ruin other people's lives. That's why basic security precautions are necessary anytime large numbers of people live together.
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As for the Yale dorm, I've been in that dorm. Totally normal for people to fall asleep wherever. Although I don't believe I ever slept in that one.
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The problem is people will bring their friends or total strangers they think are somebody else's friends into the dorm. So unless all visitors are banned the residents of the dormitory are at the mercy of each other's ability to judge who is harmless and who is dangerous. College students are not experts in the this by any means and their mistakes shouldn't be allowed to ruin other people's lives. That's why basic security precautions are necessary anytime large numbers of people live together.
Basic security precautions != calling the cops every time someone is doing something you think they shouldn't be doing
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