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Old 02-11-2020, 04:15 PM
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I've seen some videos.

Is a coxswain what the college girls are calling it now?
No need for that. It's the usual name for that role in rowing, for men or women.
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And also an old joke.
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I’m still amazed they broke the law, risked criminal indictment, and spent tens of thousands of dollars to get into second-tier schools like U.S.C., Wake Forest, and Georgetown. If you’re going to cheat, why aim so low?
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Iím still amazed they broke the law, risked criminal indictment, and spent tens of thousands of dollars to get into second-tier schools like U.S.C., Wake Forest, and Georgetown. If youíre going to cheat, why aim so low?
It's about being realistic and self-aware of your own limitations. They knew they weren't cut out for ivy league.
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It's about being realistic and self-aware of your own limitations. They knew they weren't cut out for ivy league.
Delicious irony
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Note that Stanford and Yale both had students admitted through this scheme. The idea wasn't to get your kids into schools that they were academically unqualified for, it was to get them from the huge pile of applicants who were perfectly acceptable but otherwise unremarkable into the admitted pile. USC has an admission rate of 16%, Georgetown 15%, Wake Forest 27%, so unless you were wildly overqualified, there's no guarantee you'd get into any of them.
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Note that Stanford and Yale both had students admitted through this scheme. The idea wasn't to get your kids into schools that they were academically unqualified for, it was to get them from the huge pile of applicants who were perfectly acceptable but otherwise unremarkable into the admitted pile. USC has an admission rate of 16%, Georgetown 15%, Wake Forest 27%, so unless you were wildly overqualified, there's no guarantee you'd get into any of them.
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Federal prosecutors alleged a college-admission scheme that involved:

bribing exam administrators to facilitate cheating on college and university entrance exams;[19]
bribing coaches and administrators of elite universities to nominate unqualified applicants as elite recruited athletes, thus facilitating the applicants' admission;[19]
The students weren't qualified under the normal process, but as "elite athletes" they could have special consideration. In other cases, they arranged for cheating on the entrance exams.
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From wiki, The students weren't qualified under the normal process, but as "elite athletes" they could have special consideration. In other cases, they arranged for cheating on the entrance exams.
Well, the wiki page is misstating what's actually in the affidavit it links to:

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Bribing university athletic coaches and administrators to designate applicants as purported athletic recruits—regardless of their athletic abilities, and in some cases, even though they did not play the sport they were purportedly recruited to play—thereby facilitating their admission to universities in place of more qualified applicants;
"in place of more qualified applicants" does not mean that the students were unqualified. As was discussed earlier in this thread and in the media at the time, coaches get a certain number of slots to accept applicants for a sport, as long as they otherwise meet the other minimum admissions requirement. So the rowing coach at USC can't accept a D- student with 900 SATs, but can accept a B+ student with 1300s, who would otherwise be competing with a few thousand other B+/1300 SAT students for a few hundred slots.

ETA: You're asbsolutely right about having ringers take the SATs for kids however.

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Old 02-15-2020, 01:27 AM
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Today CNN posted a copy of daughter Olivia's student profile form. She claimed to be a coxwain. Not sure where the info on page two was cribbed from, but she spelled row "wrow" on page one.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/10/us/ol...ile/index.html
To be fair, rowers do tend to have thick sculls.
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