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Old 12-29-2019, 03:42 PM
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^^I gave up on the reload thing a long time ago. Now, after about 10 seconds, I just quit the browser and try again. Still take a minute or two for me to connect to the forums again.
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Old 12-29-2019, 03:58 PM
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I now know if this place ever goes down for good, I'm going to be crushed.

Happy holidays guys!
I suppose we can regroup at the board that must not be named. Tubadiva, are there any plans to contact the survivors by email if (gasp) the board (gasp) goes under for good?
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Old 12-29-2019, 07:09 PM
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^^I gave up on the reload thing a long time ago. Now, after about 10 seconds, I just quit the browser and try again. Still take a minute or two for me to connect to the forums again.
I would suspect it's the time it takes to do that which resolves the situation, not what you are doing. It's the tapping the soda cans of the Internet.

I never restart my browser for connection issues, and yet I always get back in. The downtime is generally less than 5 minutes, and my assumption before had been that the server got overloaded and had to restart.

I actually wonder about the metrics. Is it that this board is getting hit harder than I would expect, or is the bandwidth or software struggling at expected workloads?

Could cleaning up the database or even moving old posts to a read-only archive help with matters? You know, just give the database less to do. It's something I've seen other long-running boards do.

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^^Oh, you're right--it's not what I'm doing that is resolving anything for me.

But I figure, what the heck.
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Coincidence that we're getting all kinds of conspiracy theorists and sock puppets -- I mean new posters -- at the same time that we're getting all kinds of server problems.

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Coincidence that we're getting all kinds of conspiracy theorists and sock puppets -- I mean new posters -- at the same time that we're getting all kinds of server problems.
Well, we'll show them. We've been through more lunatics and nutjobs than all of eastern Europe can produce, the owners won't pay ransom, and the users are too used to the site's ordinary problems to be bothered by hack attacks!

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Old 12-31-2019, 11:58 AM
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Old 12-31-2019, 01:22 PM
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If I didn't report this before, this happens on Safari/iPad & iPhone, and on Windows laptop.
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If this does not help, try going to the UserCP and changing your theme to "Sultantheme." That works better for some folks.

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I just today learned that I am using Sultantheme instead of Version 3.7.3. I had no idea that Sultantheme may not have been the most current or efficient choice.

I was going to ask the question, "is it possible there may be some relationship between people using Sultanthem and peopld getting a lot of timeouts?"

However before posting that I checked to see if there was any discussion of using Sultantheme in this thread and I found that you had indeed been discussing that.

But TubaDiva indicated that using Sultantheme seemed to work better for some people. I just want to say that I get an awful lot of timeouts using Sultantheme.

I should also say that I don't experience that kind of problem on any other site that I visit.

I'm not asking any question. I just wanted to report my experience to you.

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I would think that communication over the net wouldn't involve the style setting.
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Not sure of others' experience ... but for me, the 504 errors have vanished over the past two days.

This is both on an iPhone 6 running Safari (no idea what version), and on an old Dell Latitude E6410 running Windows 7 Professional (SP1). 40-50 page loads, maybe more -- all error free since yesterday morning.

I have only ever used "Straight Dope v3.7.3" as the display style, never Sultantheme. So far as I'm aware.
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Not sure of others' experience ... but for me, the 504 errors have vanished over the past two days.
I came here to say the same thing. Yeah!

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Better but not gone in the last couple days. Got a 50x yesterday.
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Gone for me the last couple days ------- knock wood.
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Old 01-03-2020, 12:58 PM
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Not sure of others' experience ... but for me, the 504 errors have vanished over the past two days.

This is both on an iPhone 6 running Safari (no idea what version), and on an old Dell Latitude E6410 running Windows 7 Professional (SP1). 40-50 page loads, maybe more -- all error free since yesterday morning.

I have only ever used "Straight Dope v3.7.3" as the display style, never Sultantheme. So far as I'm aware.
Hey bordelond I just noticed your avatar. Good luck in the playoffs, but not too much good luck because I just gotta say, GO NINERS!!!

It's rare to see three teams at 13-3 in the same conference.
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Hey bordelond I just noticed your avatar. Good luck in the playoffs, but not too much good luck because I just gotta say, GO NINERS!!!

It's rare to see three teams at 13-3 in the same conference.

Of course being a life-long Vikings fan I would say -------- different.

I can't help it; not only am I Lutheran but I've actually taught some classes at St Olaf College.)
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Of course being a life-long Vikings fan I would say -------- different.

I can't help it; not only am I Lutheran but I've actually taught some classes at St Olaf College.)
You just had to throw that in here, dintcha?

Actually the Vikings are my 2nd NFC hope/choice in these playoffs. Letís see, Joe Kapp and Fran Tarkenton... and then Randall but he didnít make it even though he should have.


And, still no 50x errors in the past couple of days. Looking good so far.
Thank you Jenny / Tuba Diva!
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Old 01-04-2020, 05:59 AM
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I haven't seen any errors lately on either mobile devices or my desktop. Whatever you did seems to have worked!
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It's been worse than normal for me this morning. Lots of slow-loading pages and 504 time-outs.
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Just had a pair of 502s, first time in a few days.
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It's been worse than normal for me this morning. Lots of slow-loading pages and 504 time-outs.
Yup. Me too.
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Really, really bad this morning.
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Old 01-04-2020, 01:22 PM
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Old 01-04-2020, 01:23 PM
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I blame Jeepís Phoenix!

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Old 01-04-2020, 06:36 PM
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You just had to throw that in here, dintcha?

Actually the Vikings are my 2nd NFC hope/choice in these playoffs. Letís see, Joe Kapp and Fran Tarkenton... and then Randall but he didnít make it even though he should have.
I actually played with Sir Francis. Long story short ----- he got lost trying to find his way to the Poconos and stopped at the local park for directions. And spent the next two hours or so teaching us kids how to do over-the-shoulder and all kinds of stuff. This was the 70s when he was just traded back to the Vikings. Since we didn't have a local team per se I adopted the Vikings and never left them. He was really really old (early 30s) and I was mid-teens ------ but we DID play football together.

And more on topic ------ not one message now for several days on the Airbook but I did pull one on the Mini.
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Old 01-04-2020, 07:31 PM
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Cool story, kopek.
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Old 01-04-2020, 09:19 PM
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I only notice it in the thread games really.
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I only notice it in the thread games really.
Same here, thatís where I usually see it. Like just now.

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Several 504's and a 502 this morning, after several days without.

All loaded OK a bit later, though.
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Old 01-05-2020, 12:58 PM
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Another just now in thread games.

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I'm getting the errors too. Firefox on a Mac, if you need that info.
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Old 01-05-2020, 04:43 PM
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Here is what happened to me about an hour ago. I think it has happened before but not every day. I was posting something in IMHO and I clicked on Post Quick Reply and got a message, I forget the exact wording, but something like "No response from server; try again in 60 seconds". So I did and this time it was accepted. But it turned out that it had been accepted (and there was even a response) after all and so I had a double post.
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Old 01-05-2020, 07:37 PM
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I blame Jeepís Phoenix!

There's a very good reason I got out of computer science/computer engineering.

I've noticed some mild sluggishness this evening, but I thought it was just my connection (I'm on a hobby computer that uses an old TiVo adapter for its wireless connection).
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Old 01-06-2020, 09:45 AM
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I got one yesterday morning (CST). That's been it since December 31st.

I have seen some general sluggishness like what Jeep's Phoenix reported. There have been a few times lately where it looks like things have hung a bit and a 504 error might pop up ... but then the page loads just in time to stave off the error.

And the bout of sluggishness seem to be clustered together. Maybe a half-dozen such episodes within 30 minutes, and then smooth sailing for the rest of the day.
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Old 01-06-2020, 11:01 AM
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Old 01-06-2020, 01:33 PM
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Why does my bloody post still offer the "edit" option but then I get a messafe saying it's been 5 minutes? Sadism?
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I still think 5 minutes is too short, we could at least increase it to 10.

Also, still getting serious delays on replies and edits, which is why we need a longer edit window.
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I found the solution:

When I open any thread successfully, I always immediately open several others in separate tabs that look interesting while I can. Then when I try to open a thread and it gets stuck, I have other threads open in other tabs I can switch to for a while instead of sitting there twiddling my thumbs. Likewise, if it gets stuck when I try to post something, I just go read another thread for a while, knowing that the stuck attempted post actually did get posted, probably. Alternatively, I can have stuff open in other tabs from other sites (like news articles) I can switch to reading.

And, as an experiment (we're still allowed to used ATMB for test posts, right?), if it gets stuck when I post this, I'll try again and again and see how many duplicate posts I can get out of this! Here goes . . .

ETA: Well, dang! It worked the first time.
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Well Senegoid, when it works for you that’s good. But to be a little nit-picky that’s not a solution, it’s a workaround. I have a workaround too — from my subscriptions page, instead of selecting the last post in the trivia dominoes thread game, which is where I usually see the errors, I first select the thread OP, then select the last page, then scroll to the bottom. That workaround usually works for me.
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Yeah, just got a server error that ate my bloody comment. It doesn't seem to be logging me out, though.
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Yeah, just got a server error that ate my bloody comment. It doesn't seem to be logging me out, though.
None of the errors I got ever logged me out.

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That started about five minutes ago, and since then I've gotten the message three times. I'm not even trying to post, just read threads.
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Old 01-08-2020, 02:07 PM
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That was followed up with this, at 1106U hrs:

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This bug apparently includes the system thinking I pressed Post Quick Reply 2x when I did not.
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Just got the "504 Gateway Time-out shield" message when trying to read a thread by clicking on a link in an email. I clicked the email link a second time, and it worked.

(Android 10 on 1st Gen Pixel, Chrome, Wi-Fi connection)
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Is there any evidence anything is being done to fix the problem? I know the site is free to me. But it is getting more and more frustrating.
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