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Old 02-05-2020, 09:42 AM
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Medal of [Freedom] recipient: Rush “Effing” Limbaugh?


Has this ever been bestowed on anyone less worthy or more polarizing?


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Old 02-05-2020, 09:47 AM
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Not the Medal of Honor. Presidential Medal of Freedom. I can’t stress enough how big a difference there is between the two. The only criteria for the Medal of Freedom is that the president wants to give it to you.
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Old 02-05-2020, 09:50 AM
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Not-so-small nitpick but Rush Limbaugh was actually given the Presidential Medal of Freedom. I believe who that goes to is entirely up to the President, whereas the Congressional Medal of Honor is only given after extensive investigation by the military.
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I think Trump is an embarrassment to the species. However, there is something charming in the way he demeans the frivolous. And he's honest about it, too: "The only victories that matter are the ones that get results." POTUS can sling the MoF to just any-old-body? Alright then, how about Rush? Why not? Doesn't cost anything and the fans love it. Same for 1) leave from duty in Afghanistan, 2) cheating a scholarship lottery to appear magnanimous to everyone else who was NOT waiting in line, 3) ceremoniously promoting a retired Colonel to B. Gen, 4) some other stuff I've already forgotten about. "Lap it up, suckers, you're paying for it already anyway." Genius. Immoral as the devil, but genius showmanship. If ANYONE had ever demonstrated how being nice can deliver a victory that gets results, he might consider being nice. But it doesn't, so he's not.
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The President's t, "..for service to your country" should have read, "..for service to your Party."
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Old 02-05-2020, 10:25 AM
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Not the Medal of Honor. Presidential Medal of Freedom. I can’t stress enough how big a difference there is between the two. The only criteria for the Medal of Freedom is that the president wants to give it to you.
Maybe a mod could change the thread title

The Medal of Freedom is now just a Republican participation trophy
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Old 02-05-2020, 11:11 AM
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Donald Trump just has to be Zaphod Beeblebrox in disguise. Nothing else makes any sense.
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Donald Trump just has to be Zaphod Beeblebrox in disguise. Nothing else makes any sense.
There is nothing hoopy about that frood.
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The Medal of Freedom is now just a Republican participation trophy
Was it a Democratic participation trophy when it was given to Barbra Streisand, Oprah Winfrey, Maya Angelou, Ellen DeGeneres, et al?
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Was it a Democratic participation trophy when it was given to Barbra Streisand, Oprah Winfrey, Maya Angelou, Ellen DeGeneres, et al?
What did you think?
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There is nothing hoopy about that frood.
He's totally Belgium
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What did you think?
He thinks Limbaugh is a warm, caring, compassionate person who has the world's best interests at heart.

He's also wrong.

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Maybe a mod could change the thread title
Changed Honor to Freedom to prevent confusion.
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Was it a Democratic participation trophy when it was given to Barbra Streisand, Oprah Winfrey, Maya Angelou, Ellen DeGeneres, et al?
Yes it was. Those women aren't monsters though, unlike Rush.
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My feelings on Medal of Freedom recipients parallel those of Sherlock Holmes when told that the earth revolves around the sun.

Makes no difference to me or my work.

One can raise an eyebrow when people like Rush Limbaugh (or Sam Walton, Walter Lippmann or Doris Day) get a Medal of Freedom, but that's just too much effort for me. It's a relatively meaningless accolade.
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Was it a Democratic participation trophy when it was given to Barbra Streisand, Oprah Winfrey, Maya Angelou, Ellen DeGeneres, et al?
IMHO, the Medal of Freedom should only be given to people who've actually made a meaningful scientific + medicine + tech + something-tangible contribution. In other words, something like an American version of the Nobel Prize.

When Obama gave it to Stephen Hawking, great. People like Rush Limbaugh or Ellen DeGeneres - no way.

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Has this ever been bestowed on anyone less worthy or more polarizing?
Harvey Milk. Unless you count self-promotion, his biggest achievement was getting elected to the San Francisco Board of Supervisors. Well, that and getting shot.
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There is nothing hoopy about that frood.
And there's no goddamn way he knows where his towel is.
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Was it a Democratic participation trophy when it was given to Barbra Streisand, Oprah Winfrey, Maya Angelou, Ellen DeGeneres, et al?
Those people at least made/make contributions to the arts. Limbaugh only spews hate and lies.

ETA: And you seriously compared one of the great writers of the 20th century to Rush Limbaugh?

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He's totally Belgium
* gets the vapors

Such filthy language!
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Those people at least made/make contributions to the arts. Limbaugh only spews hate and lies.



ETA: And you seriously compared one of the great writers of the 20th century to Rush Limbaugh?
She's a Black, tho
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Donald Trump just has to be Zaphod Beeblebrox in disguise. Nothing else makes any sense.
The fictional character Donald Trump has always reminded me of is Zapp Brannigan from Futurama.
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The fictional character Donald Trump has always reminded me of is Zapp Brannigan from Futurama.
Zapp is Captain Lincoln Stern imho.
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* gets the vapors

Such filthy language!
I never was one for restraint. I'd love to play cricket with ol' Rush.
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The President's t, "..for service to your country" should have read, "..for service to your Party."
No, it's their country now. Service to the party is service to the country. It's one in the same. If you are not in the party you can GTFO of the country. You are not needed.
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IMHO, the Medal of Freedom should only be given to people who've actually made a meaningful scientific + medicine + tech + something-tangible contribution. In other words, something like an American version of the Nobel Prize.
Well it’s not.
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The Nobel Prizes themselves are far from perfect; the peace prize can be political, the sciences medals go to people for work done decades earlier, the literature prize is often to someone I've never heard of and entire areas (mathematics, architecture, etc) are unrecognized. Plus they never gave the peace prize to Gandhi.

I have no problem with the idea of the Presidential Medal of Freedom. Looking over the list of awardees, I have no argument with most of them.
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You do have to admit, he keeps us distracted.
Hoopy? No.
Belgium? Oh, yeah.
Now he needs to hop into the Heart of Gold and GTFO
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I wish that somebody could stick him in a Total Perspective Vortex.
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Bill Cosby got the MOF in 2002. Almost all of the schools that gave him honorary degrees (over 50) have revoked them. But he still has his MOF
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Margaret Thatcher got it in 1991, Tony Blair in 2009, and Aung San Suu Kyi in 2000, all of which are considered war criminals in some form (though Aung San Suu Kyi has actually been accused by major international organizations of genocide)
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I have no problem with the idea of the Presidential Medal of Freedom. Looking over the list of awardees, I have no argument with most of them.
Trump lowers the bar.
Ed Meese? Justice Scalia? And now Rush. Fuck
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There was a bill in Congress to allow the president to specifically revoke Cosby's MOF but the bill did not pass
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There was a bill in Congress to allow the president to specifically revoke Cosby's MOF but the bill did not pass
Do we know who and how they voted?
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Do we know who and how they voted?
The bill never made it out of committee, but apparently it was a bipartisan lineup of 17 members of Congress.

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Looking up comments on contemporary news articles, the general consensus was that Republicans were "lynching" Cosby so maybe that's' why it was such a nonstarter.
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An interesting thing about Cosby is that almost all the colleges that did not revoke his honorary degree are historically black schools.
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Looking up comments on contemporary news articles, the general consensus was that Republicans were "lynching" Cosby so maybe that's' why it was such a nonstarter.
Comments? Like from the comments section of a news article?!
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Rush's stance on the liberal press and the need for a conservative viewpoint, and then telling his audience that his was the true viewpoint and getting his audience to believe him paved the way to Trump's 'fake news', and dismissal of the press. That's pretty big. And according to Trump, what is good for Trump is good for the nation. One of Trump's impeachment lawyer's defense was that impeach him would be bad for his re-election and thus not in the best interest of the country, thus the charges should be dismissed. So hell yeah it's in the nation's best interest as it helped Trump become our elected king.
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For at least 3 out of them, pretty much yes.

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Noted, but your opinion and mine plus five bucks gets us coffee. As it is, it has been on the way to becoming like knight/damehood in the UK, more a Presidential Medal of Attaboy/Attagirl, for a while now.
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Trump know the best way to make his base happy is to be as divisive as possible. I'm sure that my racist Republican brother-in-law was laughing about how much this award was a fuck you to liberals.
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Noted, but your opinion and mine plus five bucks gets us coffee. As it is, it has been on the way to becoming like knight/damehood in the UK, more a Presidential Medal of Attaboy/Attagirl, for a while now.
That’s all it ever was.
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Trump lowers the bar.
Ed Meese? Justice Scalia? And now Rush. Fuck
Oh include Obama giving one to Ted Kennedy, the man who let a woman drown and tried to cover it up.
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The Medal of Freedom has been turned into a political tool, pure and simple.
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I want him to look Baron in the eye and tell him he honored Rush who called another child in the White House a dog.
When was that? Perhaps you're confusing a rumor with what actually happened. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtUlEfuM-xU
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