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Now that he's appeared in a few recent episodes, Ronaldo has been active at his blog again. Keep Beach City Weird,now sponsored by Guacola.
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Old 08-01-2016, 06:16 AM
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And just in cased you missed it, Peridot has a Twitter account! It started in conjunction with her getting the tablet in "Too Short to Ride", but she's continued tweeting stuff like this:

NYAHAHA! 24 HOURS AND 672 PAGES LATER AND MY "ESSAY" ON HOW PAULETTE IS THE SCOURGE OF CAMP PINING HEARTS IS ALMOST DONE!
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Well, we've been overwhelmed by new Steven Universe episodes for the past two weeks, with Cartoon Network dropping eleven episodes. Steven and the Gems have returned to Beach City, and most of the episodes for the first week-and-a-half focused on the human residents of the town. Garnet went seven episodes with no speaking roles and one cameo.

The Summer of Steven has featured the return of some highly anticipated characters (Stevonnie, Rose Quartz, Centipeetle, Vidalia), lesser characters getting a day in the spotlight (Sour Cream, Kiki Pizza), and the return of the series' total hosebags (Marty, Kevin, Jasper). Oh, and an almost entirely musical episode (five songs).

What are we thinking so far?
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Old 08-01-2016, 07:22 PM
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I'm impressed so far! (Don't know if that's saying too much though -- I'm a relative newcomer to the series, so I've been enjoying all things Steven Universe, even the massive themed blocks CN was running up to the new episodes.) The Centipeetle and Jasper episodes had some really heavy stuff.
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I'm thinking that I remain impressed. I appreciated Lapis's mixed emotions regarding her past dysfunctional relationship and how antagonists often see Steven as Rose. Rose's ignorance about childhood was also interesting.

Most simply this grouping has had only slight advancement of the arc but extremely fascinating character growth of many characters, major to minor. With dynamic character growth being possible as opposed to the static nature of gems on homeworld, being part of the broader arc.
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Well, we pretty much knew that Steven training his shield and Connie training with the sword was leading up to Stevonnie using both. And there it was.
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Well, after having my mind blown with Friday's episode and then again with tonight's, I thought I better start getting my Season 3 impressions in before it's over.

First, I'll focus on the early bunch of episodes focusing on Steven interacting with the human residents of Beach City: Drop Beat Dad, The New Lars, Beach City Drift, Restaurant Wars, and Kiki's Pizza Delivery Service. Steven spends a lot of time in these episodes healing some long standing rifts between BeachCity residents: Sour Cream and Yellowtail, Lars and Sadie, Kiki and Jenny, and Fryman and Kofi (but not Ronaldo and his hime-sama Jane. I'm guessing that sometime before the end of the series, Steven and Gems will need the people of Beach City to have their back. The townspeople are also getting to see Steven exhibit his new powers, as they've seen him float, shapeshift, use superstrength, use dream powers, and fuse into Stevonnie.

I'd rate the New Lars as the best of this bunch and Drop Beat Dad as the worst, with Restaurant Wars as the funniest.
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Old 08-09-2016, 12:20 PM
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Well, after having my mind blown with Friday's episode and then again with tonight's, I thought I better start getting my Season 3 impressions in before it's over.
By Amazon's reckoning, we just started season 5. Although I don't see specifically how the season starts and ends are determined. They don't seem correlated with the long pauses in when the episodes are made available.
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By Amazon's reckoning, we just started season 5. Although I don't see specifically how the season starts and ends are determined. They don't seem correlated with the long pauses in when the episodes are made available.
According to the production staff, we are wrapping up Season 3 Wednesday and starting Season 4 Thursday.

Season 1 was 52 episodes - Everything up through "Jail Break" in the correct order (Cartoon Network showed the later part of this season and the early parts of Season 2 out-of-order so they could clump the Peridot/Jasper/Lapis invasion arc episodes together.) This is what is on the Season 1 DVD set - available only in Australia (Region 4).
Season 2 was 52 episodes, but then Cartoon Network decided to split the order into 2 26 episode seasons, and they counted lumping together all the various 2-3 minutes shorts as one of those episodes. This is why the 30 minute "Bismuth" special was billed as the 100th episode.
Cartoon Network has ordered another 52-episode batch, which was originally considered Season 3, but has since been split into Seasons 4 and 5.

Note: This is according to the production staff. The Cartoon Network video on demand page is calling some of the currently airing episodes Season 4. And Amazon is splitting the show into 26 episodes seasons, although Season 4 contains only 20 episodes, which is why Amazon is on Season 5.

As for the long hiatuses, that's Cartoon Network's doing and has nothing to do with actual Seasons/production orders.

With that said...

Damn, this show just keeps getting better and better. So much to process in the last few episodes. It looks like Steven is heading for a "Snape Pensive" moment, where he'll find out his mother Rose isn't quite as perfect as all the people who loved her (especially Pearl and Greg) have portrayed her. Keeping Bismuth bubbled for 5300 years and lying about it is pretty messed up. (Nice continuity touch: I rewatched the first episode with Lion's mane from Season 1, and the bubbled Bismuth gem was there). And just what did Rose do to Pink Diamond?
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Keeping Bismuth bubbled for 5300 years and lying about it is pretty messed up. (Nice continuity touch: I rewatched the first episode with Lion's mane from Season 1, and the bubbled Bismuth gem was there).
Yeah, they do plan these things quite a bit ahead.

Bismuth was a genocidal zealot, and Rose basically put her in prison. (5300 years is not a long prison sentence for a gem -- Steven was punished with no dinner^H^H^H^H^H^HTV for 1000 years). Rose recognized that just because Bismuth was on her side didn't make her "good". The lying about it could have been just so that Bismuth's friends didn't think ill of her (it also could have been to avoid criticism, so morally ambiguous there).
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So opinions on Smokey Quartz and other new developments?
One weakness of the show is the abandoning of characters and plots for a while and then picking them up again. I get why Lapis wasn't living with the rest of the Gems--I think genuinely doesn't like the Gems, and only really likes Steven... but why was Peridot living at the barn? Although I did really like Lapis and Peridot as arty roommates.

I predict Connie does NOT like Steven and Amethyst fusing.
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Well, Season 3 ended this week with "Bubbled" and the showed moved right into Season 4, and will hopefully continue with weekly episodes rather than the bomb-followed-by-long -hiatus that Cartoon Network has saddled Steven Universe with.

Despite all the character growth, new powers, and healed relationships that Season 3 brought to Steven, the Gems, and the citizens of Beach City, "Bubbled" ends the season on a melancholy note. He finds out that Rose Quartz, in opposition to her and Steven's ideals, shattered Pink Diamond. Also, Steven's previously tried-and-true method of turning enemies into friends with his empathy and openness failed him three times at the end of the season: with Bismuth, with Jasper, and then with Eyeball. Eyeball's turn was especially disconcerting, as the Ruby Squad had basically been presented as semi-friendly comic relief. I especially found Eyeball's tone and expression when she was talking about getting her very own Pearl creepy.
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So opinions on Smokey Quartz and other new developments?
I get why Lapis wasn't living with the rest of the Gems--I think genuinely doesn't like the Gems, and only really likes Steven... but why was Peridot living at the barn? Although I did really like Lapis and Peridot as arty roommates.

I predict Connie does NOT like Steven and Amethyst fusing.
-Peridot stated she was going to stay at the barn to repair the damage she did with her robot. She was also not keen on moving back into Steven's bathroom, now that she has figured out what goes on in there.

-Lapis and Peridot as art-school roommates is great and probably full of creator in-jokes, as many of them went to art school.

-Smoky Quartz seems like the perfect union of Amethyst and Steven's personality traits. No extra eyes and only one extra arm seem to confirm this.

-I think Greg would mind Steven and Amethyst fusing more than Connie.

-Amethyst had her mind on other stuff, but I don't think she was thrilled to see how close Lapis and Peridot have gotten in her absence.
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Damn, this show just keeps getting better and better. So much to process in the last few episodes. It looks like Steven is heading for a "Snape Pensive" moment, where he'll find out his mother Rose isn't quite as perfect as all the people who loved her (especially Pearl and Greg) have portrayed her. Keeping Bismuth bubbled for 5300 years and lying about it is pretty messed up. (Nice continuity touch: I rewatched the first episode with Lion's mane from Season 1, and the bubbled Bismuth gem was there). And just what did Rose do to Pink Diamond?
-I noted the Bismuth gem bubble inside Lion earlier in this thread.

-It wasn't 5300 years for Bismuth. When gems are released from bubbles, they "wake up" pretty much on the instant they were poofed.

-As for why Rose didn't tell anyone: 1) She probably worried that a significant number of Crystal Gems would have agreed with her 2) She didn't want Bismuth's friends having to remember her as a genocidal maniac who tried to kill Rose. 3) She was too ashamed/guilty to tell Garnet and Pearl.

-That being said, Rose took a big risk putting Bismuth's bubble inside Lion for Steven to find. She probably thought that with the war long over and no contact with Homeworld for 5000 years, and with her being gone, Steven could let Bismuth out of the bubble and she could rejoin the Crystal Gems and be at peace. Rose didn't figure that most gems don't believe Steven is his own person and not Rose in a new form and couldn't know that Homeworld gems would return to Earth.
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Well, after having my mind blown with Friday's episode and then again with tonight's, I thought I better start getting my Season 3 impressions in before it's over.

First, I'll focus on the early bunch of episodes focusing on Steven interacting with the human residents of Beach City: Drop Beat Dad, The New Lars, Beach City Drift, Restaurant Wars, and Kiki's Pizza Delivery Service. Steven spends a lot of time in these episodes healing some long standing rifts between BeachCity residents: Sour Cream and Yellowtail, Lars and Sadie, Kiki and Jenny, and Fryman and Kofi (but not Ronaldo and his hime-sama Jane. I'm guessing that sometime before the end of the series, Steven and Gems will need the people of Beach City to have their back. The townspeople are also getting to see Steven exhibit his new powers, as they've seen him float, shapeshift, use superstrength, use dream powers, and fuse into Stevonnie.

I'd rate the New Lars as the best of this bunch and Drop Beat Dad as the worst, with Restaurant Wars as the funniest.
I completely forgot to come back to this. My observations and favorite bits from the bunch of Beach City episodes listed above.

-Onion is the only person who actually likes the Guacola
-Onion is the only person (besides Sadie) who doesn't like the new Lars.
-Cool Kids have Steven's back, just the same as in "Joyride"
-Sadie's quite the horror fan.
-"I'm full...OF SADNESS!"
-Poor Ronaldo. No one, not even Peedee, believes he as a girlfriend and then she shows up at the worst possible time.
-Jane actually appeared way back in "Lion 2: Straight to Video". She was the ticket booth attendant at the movie theater.
-Kofi took the idea of branding his restaurant a little too literary.
-"Restaurant Wars", especially the dinner at Steven's, is drawing pretty heavily from cooking anime.
-"Beach City Drift" is basically a tribute to racing anime, specifically Initial D.
-Not only can Stevonnie drive like a champ without ever driving before, s/he can drive stick!
-Kevin really is a total jackass, isn't he?
-Looking at the view from the drive, Beach City looks bigger than I supposed.
-Who wants to go to a rave in the cheese cave?
-The giant pizza slices standing up offshore are a tribute to Evangelion.
-Getting stuff past the radar: Lars sleeps in the nude, and had what appeared to be porn mag on his face when he/Steven woke up.
-Lars' real name is Laramie.
-Why is Steven so mad at Kevin? Its because he is connected to Connie's feelings when they fuse and she was seriously creeped out by Kevin's skeevy come-ons.
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I was really fond of the Peridot as Wile E Coyote tribute. I swear they made the setting for the beta kindergarten just so they could do that.
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So now that the "Summer of Steven" has ended, I feel like sharing my thoughts:

Wow, that was great. It was everything I wanted. More "low stakes slice of life spend time in Beach City" episodes, more "action oriented move the plot forward" episodes, and more "slow reveal of gem history" episodes.

--I don't think Rose actually shattered Pink Diamond, there is more there than we know. Note that Bismuth says that Rose's sword was designed for a fair fight, capable of destroying a Gem's physical form in an instant *But never the gem*.

--Bismuth and Jasper both get a chance to expound on their philosophies, and they are almost exactly the opposite of each other, yet they both are equally dangerous fanatics. A good lesson for Steven.

--It is more explicitly shown that the war was about a Gem's right to change and leave their predetermined place in the homeworld hierarchy. What does the Diamond's corruption do? It changes gems. Coincidence, or a deliberately ironic punishment for the rebels?

--Steven fuses with amethyst. I was kind of hoping that Steven could only fuse with humans, to emphasize his unique hybrid nature, but it was very well done and I can't complain.

--Just a idle thought- Does tvtropes have a name for that trope where a character goes from being snooty and superior to fawning and obsequious instantly when cash is flashed? (like the hotel clerk in Mr. Greg)

And last, what are the major questions still remaining to be answered?
-The nature and purpose of corruption, and how it can be fixed
-How the rebellion started and Rose Quartz's relationship with Pink Diamond
-What is Lion?

Anything else?
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-As for why Rose didn't tell anyone: 1) She probably worried that a significant number of Crystal Gems would have agreed with her 2) She didn't want Bismuth's friends having to remember her as a genocidal maniac who tried to kill Rose. 3) She was too ashamed/guilty to tell Garnet and Pearl. ...
And discomfort about her shattering Pink Diamond was the same thing in logic as Bismuth's.

Steven is hitting the phase of growing up where he is having to deal with the disappointment that the universe and his mother do not live up to his ideals.
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-Why is Steven so mad at Kevin? Its because he is connected to Connie's feelings when they fuse and she was seriously creeped out by Kevin's skeevy come-ons.
Um. I think Steven was seriously creeped out by Kevin's skeevy come-ons. Kevin also soured their first fusion experience.
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Prediction: Lion is a corrupted Pink Diamond. You heard it here first!
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I've honestly thought that too.
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Prediction: Lion is a corrupted Pink Diamond. You heard it here first!
Except that Pink Diamond was already shattered by Rose by the time the other Diamonds unleashed the corruption wave.

After seeing "Buddy's Book", I would say that Rose imbued an actual Lion with one of Pink Diamond's shard to create Lion.
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--I don't think Rose actually shattered Pink Diamond, there is more there than we know. Note that Bismuth says that Rose's sword was designed for a fair fight, capable of destroying a Gem's physical form in an instant *But never the gem*.
So? Rose would have had other options to crack open a gem, especially if she used the sword to destroy Pink Diamond's body first. Jasper was all set to crush Amethyst's gem with her bare hand. We've got multiple confirmations, including eyewitnesses, and for any of the "Rose Didn't Really Kill Pink Diamond" theories out there to work, it would mean that Garnet willingly and purposely lied to Steven at a time when he really needed an honest answer.
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And last, what are the major questions still remaining to be answered?
-The nature and purpose of corruption, and how it can be fixed
-How the rebellion started and Rose Quartz's relationship with Pink Diamond
-What is Lion?

Anything else?
1) Corruption is the equivalent of an Electro-Magnetic Pulse that degrades and corrupts the information stored and encoded on gems (i.e. the mind, intelligence, personality, etc of the the gem). The corruption event unleashed by the Diamonds was described as a three-colored (white, blue, and yellow) flash of light accompanied by a tone or song. Go listen to Yellow Diamond again. There is a musical undercurrent when she talks. Steven's shield will be part of the solution, since Rose's shield protected her, Garnet, and Pearl from the corruption event, but I think the Crystal Gems will need someone with audio expertise to reverse-engineer the corruption signal. Too bad they don't know anyone like that.

2) It's pretty natural that a Gem with affinity for plant and animal life would develop empathy for a planet's lifeforms and act to protect them. Pearl, or rather her treatment at the hands of Gem society, could have been a another catalyst for Rose. Rose was a high-ranking, possibly unique quartz under Pink Diamond. I suspect she was in charge of the Prime Kindergarten, which is why she feels guilty about the herm Gems did to the Earth.

3) See above.
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Gradually catching up with with my season three overview, this time I'll look at the more Gem-and-lore-centered episodes from the earlier part of the season: Steven Floats, Mr. Greg, Too Short To Ride, Monster Reunion, Alone At Sea, Greg The Babysitter, Gem Hunt, Crack the Whip, and Steven vs Amethyst.

Cartoon Network could have called this The Summer of Steven Power-Ups, as Steven has seriously upped his Crystal Gem game. This season, we've seen Steven; superleap and float, use his shield as a projectile, make multiple shields, expand his shield, expand and manipulate his bubble, form spikes on his bubble, fuse with another Gem, fuse without dancing, and demonstrate superhuman strength and durability. (Did I miss any?)

The other thing we see a lot of in this group of episodes is finding the characters have to confront uncomfortable truths about themselves.Pearl has to confront her inability to get over Rose and how it affects her relationships with Greg and Steven. Peridot has to learn she can be someone without her technology. Amethyst has to face the fact that she can't stand up to Jasper on her own, and then that Steven is catching up to her. Lapis has to admit that, one some level, she liked having Jasper at her mercy. And Flashback Greg realizes that he's little more than an irresponsible kid and he needs to grow up some.
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... The other thing we see a lot of in this group of episodes is finding the characters have to confront uncomfortable truths about themselves. ...
I was going to write: "And not only about themselves ..." in reference to what Steven is learning about his mother - but realized that in a sense that is also about himself ...
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Gradually catching up with with my season three overview, this time I'll look at the more Gem-and-lore-centered episodes from the earlier part of the season: Steven Floats, Mr. Greg, Too Short To Ride, Monster Reunion, Alone At Sea, Greg The Babysitter, Gem Hunt, Crack the Whip, and Steven vs Amethyst.
Memorable bits and notes from the above-named episodes.

-Five songs and two reprises is a lot for an 11-minute episode.
-I'm convinced that the whole purpose of Mr. Greg was so that the show staff could get Pearl into that tuxedo and top hat.
-I hope Greg doesn't have his fortune frittered away by paying up for damages cause by the Crystal Gems.
-I also hope he at least buys a modest house. He's getting to an age where his back and knees will thank him for sleeping on a real bed and sitting on real furniture.
-Fresh donuts at the Big Donut. Hopefully without gull droppings and feathers.
-Homeworld is running low on resources, yet Yellow Diamond still wants to destroy the Earth and not colonize it.
-Peridot going "Ow. ow. ow. ow. ow..." as Steven and Amethyst re-align her spine.
-For as much as she wanted that alien doll, Peridot was pretty quick to cannibalize it for the bow-tie.
-It wasn't too long ago that Amethyst would not have been able to give that speech to Peridot.
-I've worked at a place that was seriously "funderstaffed", so I know how Mr. Smiley feels.
-My name is Jasper and I'm addicted to fusion.
-Bismuth was a case of poor communication almost killing. Garnet and Pearl's explanation led Bismuth to believe that all her friends had been shattered during the fighting and there were a lot of hostile Homeworld Gems on Earth.
-The Breaking Point wouldn't have made much of a difference in the war, and wouldn't be off much use today given the advances in gem technology.
-Rose Quartz: "Climb, little human! Realize your dream!"
-So Homeworld philosophy is basically Social Darwinism, as Jasper is its apotheosis.
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And the final episodes of Season3 (Beta, Earthlings, Back to the Moon, Bubbled) actually run together one after the other. I talked about

-Steven's pep talk to Amethyst at the Beta Kindergarten is his best yet. It certainly got the best results. .
-Garnet needed a long, knock-down, drag-out fight to best Japer. Smoky Quartz made it look easy.
-Peridot and Lapis are adorable as art-school roommates. Perhaps Greg can drive them to Empire City to see the Metropolitan Museum of Meep Morp.
-One of these days, the Crystal Gems will actually plan something out. If Doc hadn't come back out of the ship to offer them a ride, they would have ended up stranded on the moon.
-It's sad the Rubies thought that Ame-Jasper was so awesome. Real Jasper would have treated them like garbage.
-Watch Eyeball whenever Ame-Jasper is giving attention to another Ruby. When Doc is sitting on her lap, Eyeball is giving them side-eye from her chair with tears in her eyes.
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Wow. Mindful Education is probably one of the best character-based episodes of the entire run of this show. It's got Stevonnie. It's got Garnet. It's got a rare song by Garnet and Stevonnie's first song. It's a very simple plot. Steven and Connie are starting to train with Pearl as Stevonnie, but can't hold the fusion because it turns out Connie is eaten up with regret and guilt for something she did. Garnet shows Stevonnie how to enter a mindscape where all parts of the fusion are present.

There's a lot of emotional resonance with the advice Garnet gives to Steven and Connie. You can't just avoid feeling bad about things, even if they are things beyond your control, and you can't move past these feelings without dealing with them honestly. The lesson was originally for Connie, but it turns out that Steven needed it more, as he's been swallowing a lot of guilt about his failures at the end of Season 3.

Some notable points:

-A good callback to Beach City Drift. When one part of a fusion is out of sync, the fusion experiences a hallucinatory mindscape.
-When Stevonnie runs through a Holo-Pearl with Rose's sword, Stevonnie visualizes it as Bismuth (Connie didn't didn't know who Bismuth was.) and shifts into a hallucination where they are menaced by Jasper, Eyeball, and then a hostile Rose Quartz.
-As Stevonnie is backing away from this, they step off the edge of the Sky Arena.
-Connie finally gets to meet Ruby and Sapphire, in a way.
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What significance do you place to the "hostile Rose Quartz" as the, so to speak, "boss" of the level?

In "Buddy's Book" there was a place or thing that Steven had never seen ... a palanquin? ... which looking up is a litter in which a person of importance is carried by servants. Okay, looking up I see reference to having been shown one before with Blue Diamond in it.

But is this palanquin and the fact that Steven has not seen it before of some future significance? If so what? Was it Pink Diamond's? Will a trip by Steven to find it lead to more revelations about Rose? What additional revelations about Rose are likely?
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What significance do you place to the "hostile Rose Quartz" as the, so to speak, "boss" of the level?
I took it as the representation of Steven's recent realization that his mom probably did nasty things during the war (like shattering Pink Diamond). Which is another thing that he doesn't want to think about.
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I took Rose's appearance more as representative of Steven's self recrimination, that he imagines she would disapprove of his failure to live up to her ideals. Recent revelations about what she may (or may not) have done during the War aside, Steven has always looked up to her as an idol, his ultimate role model and he's spoken several times of his fear that he can't live up to that.
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In "Buddy's Book" there was a place or thing that Steven had never seen ... a palanquin? ... which looking up is a litter in which a person of importance is carried by servants. Okay, looking up I see reference to having been shown one before with Blue Diamond in it.

But is this palanquin and the fact that Steven has not seen it before of some future significance? If so what? Was it Pink Diamond's? Will a trip by Steven to find it lead to more revelations about Rose? What additional revelations about Rose are likely?
It's the self-moving palanquin that Blue Diamond was riding in "The Answer". I don't think it signifies anything except that Blue Diamond had to abandon it and presumably get off Earth in a hurry. I don't think it's a given that Steven's seen every single gem site.
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I took Rose's appearance more as representative of Steven's self recrimination, that he imagines she would disapprove of his failure to live up to her ideals. Recent revelations about what she may (or may not) have done during the War aside, Steven has always looked up to her as an idol, his ultimate role model and he's spoken several times of his fear that he can't live up to that.
If this episode had taken place before the final episodes of Season 3, I would agree. However, I think it's significant that the giant menacing forms of Bismuth, Jasper, and Eyeball dissolved into butterflies that formed into a glowering Rose Quartz. All three of those failures weigh heavily on Steven and all of them from things Rose did that are at odds with Steven's image of her.
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Except that Pink Diamond was already shattered by Rose by the time the other Diamonds unleashed the corruption wave.

After seeing "Buddy's Book", I would say that Rose imbued an actual Lion with one of Pink Diamond's shard to create Lion.
I think she just pretended to have shattered Pink Diamond to help PD go deep undercover.

I propose my new, new theory: Ronaldo is Pink Diamond! That's why he knew about the Diamond Authority before any other human.

And Lion is just a random lion she painted pink to through you off the scent (who just happened to have a pocket dimension in his mane for unrelated reasons)! You heard it here first!
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It's the self-moving palanquin that Blue Diamond was riding in "The Answer". I don't think it signifies anything except that Blue Diamond had to abandon it and presumably get off Earth in a hurry. I don't think it's a given that Steven's seen every single gem site.
Blue Diamond had a self-moving palanquin that she rode in "The Answer" but why are you so sure that this self-moving palanquin is that one?

I too btw think that Rose's appearance has more to do with his suppressing his feelings regarding emerging disappointment in things that Rose did that fail to live up to his idealized version of her, the thread being not only that his compassion was not able to reach any of those three, but that it was what they each felt about Rose (and thus him as the same gem's current manifestation) and what she did (things that he initially could not accept that she did) that prevented his being able to help them.

He doesn't want to think about that.
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Blue Diamond had a self-moving palanquin that she rode in "The Answer" but why are you so sure that this self-moving palanquin is that one?
When the show provides viewers with clues towards future relevations, I generally stick to interpretations that hew to Occam's razor. We saw Blue Diamond on a palanquin, ergo it is most likely that the ruined palanquin in Buddy's Book was hers. Granted, we know very little about Pink Diamond, but there are plenty of aesthetic and stylistic differences between Yellow Diamond and Blue Diamond (just look at their Pearls) that I don't think you can say that because one diamond has something, the others will. I certainly can't see Yellow Diamond riding on that palanquin.
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And it's back to the boardwalk for "Future Boy Zoltron". Mr. Smiley is the spotlighted Beach City denizen, and he earns some sympathetic treatment without toning down his smiling/menacing treatment of Steven and his aura of slightly shady hucksterism.

Notes/Memorable Moments:

-"Future Boy Zoltron" is a nod to Future Boy Conan, Miyazaki's pre-Ghibli post-apoclayptic TV series. Rebecca Sugar cites this as one of her influences for the show, but I don't think there's ever been an English release.
-Best lines of the episode:
Steven: Can I borrow your future vision? I need it to help some random stranger I just met.
Garnet: That seems like an appropriate use of my powers.
-Lars seemed to have turned over a new leaf since "The New Lars".
-This show occasionally likes to throw the fact that this is a cartoon in the viewers' faces. No one (except Garnet) recognizing Steven is a perfect example of this.
-Mr. Frowney's voice seems awfully familiar, but I can't place it.
-Great Onion moment. IIRC, we've got another Onion episode coming up in the next week or two.
-Nanafua sighting.
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And "Last One Out of Beach City" was a bomb drop on the fandom. When the episode titles were released a while back, most thought that this episode would be a "heavy" episode, perhaps the season-ender with a Homeworld attack on Beach City. Then an early CN schedule had it paired with the ominously-titled "Gem Harvest" as a double episode, and people thought something big was on the horizon.

Well, it certainly was a big episode, just not in the way people were expecting. The setup is simple enough: Amethyst is super-excited that Greg is taking her to a rock show, but Greg ends up having to bail, so Pearl offers to take her and Steven instead.

From that point, the episode become a homage/remake of the kind of 80s/90s teen romance where the shy, nerdy guy meets his ideal girl, often at a distance, and goes on a quest to win her, or at least find enough courage to talk to her. The ending credits title cards read: Pearl as The Repressed Nerd, Amethyst as The Ultimate Wingman, Steven as The Voice of Reason, and Introducing the Mystery Girl as Herself. And it's Pearl of all people who is crushing on the Mystery Girl, who remains just that, as her name remains unknown and we don't hear her voice (Pearl does talk to her, but out of earshot of Steven and Amethyst).
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There were some things in this episode that I've really wanted to see for Pearl ever since "Mr. Greg": Pearl deciding to mingle more with humans and Pearl showing signs of getting over Rose.

However, Pearl is just about the last gem I thought would be romantically attracted to a human. Granted, Mystery Girl looks as much like Rose as a human can without doing cosplay, but Pearl said in "We Need To Talk" that gem-human relationships are incomplete because they lack fusion as their epitome. Granted, she could have changed her mind after observing Rose and Greg for years. I also thought that Pearl was the ascetic to Rose's sensualist. Rose liked food and sex, but if Pearl doesn't like eating because it's a messy biological process, I would see her feeling the same way about sex.
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She drank apple juice man!

Seriously though the theme was Pearl's growth, trying to be less rigid and rule-following, whether it was initially to demonstrate it to Amethyst or for her own sake. Maybe true as a re-embrace of her rebel side. She is a Pearl who went against her Diamond for love afterall.

Being attracted to a human who looks like Rose is the least surprising thing to me.
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Yeah, I would have eventually come around to that in my post, but it was late and I had to hit the sack. Just as in those teen movies, Mystery Girl is only incidental to the obstacles, both external and internal, that the hero has to overcome to be with her. I feel some of what we see from Pearl in this episode doesn't quite match with her earlier characterization, but Pearl's had a long life prior to what we've seen on the show. I'm willing to state the Pearl's obsessive fussbudgetiness is more of a coping mechanism after losing Rose than an innate part of her personality. Still, Pearl achieved her goal at the end by being herself and not by trying to act cool.

Other notes:
-The same Pearl who not to long ago didn't know what school was and wondered whatever happened to hunting & gathering is now conversant enough to make cracks about the suburbs and be familiar with concepts such as citizenship and driver's licenses.
-Great to see Amethyst being so supportive of Pearl.
-So Amethyst likes Sugar Shock Shut Down. Might explain a few things....
-Where's Pearl getting the clothes? With her build, she can't borrow from other characters.
-Ocean Town: No longer on fire!
-Mike Krol might be far from big time, but I would think even he could do better than a garage show in the middle of nowhere.
-Lots of crew cameos at the show.
-Greg probably should get the gems a phone for the Temple. Steven has a phone, but he has no way of contacting the Gems if he needs help. Ditto for Peridot and Lapis at the barn.
-I'm sure Greg will be thrilled to hear of yet another high-speed exploit in the Dondai.
-Barb is not a woman of empty threats!

"Onion Gang" tomorrow.
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-Where's Pearl getting the clothes? With her build, she can't borrow from other characters.
Gems manifest their clothes like they do their bodies, don't they? I remember the episode "Beach Party", all 3 changing from their usual getups to beach wear (Pearl's was a sundress)

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Yeah, they can do that by temporarily altering their default appearance, but like Amethyst's shapeshifting, the "clothes" they make are limited to their color scheme. However, the jacket and jeans were, like the tux in Mr. Greg, external clothes. She took them off, remember.
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Onion Gang ... sorry but pretty weak episode.
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Garbanzo.
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Onion Gang ... sorry but pretty weak episode.
Yeah, it was probably the weakest of all the Summer of Steven episodes. Still, it was nicer to see a more empathic side of Onion. Every once in a while, the crew likes to remind the audience that Steven Universe is a cartoon, and this episode, with it's food-named gang of mute tykes pulling stunts like the old stand-on-each-others-shoulders-and-pretend-wer'e-grownup gag. Animators like mute characters probably more than viewers do. Kudos to Zach Callison for single-handedly carrying the voice acting.

-Fun Trivia: Steven and Onion have the same voice actor, as do Greg and Yellowtail.
-Nice to see some parts of Beach City we don't normally see, such as Suitcase Sam's.
-Onion must really get around. The Temple is at the end of the peninsula that Beach City is on and the woods are at the base.
-Except for the eerie silence, I found the kids' behavior to be fairly typical for kids left unsupervised and at loose ends.
-I can't tell if Steven was playing along at being scared by the gang in masks and thinking that Garbanzo was hurt, or if he actually felt that way.
-Garnet gave the gang a thumbs up in her photo. Wonder what she was doing around town.
-I found Steven's moping about being lonely kind of off. I guess he's realizing that his friends are going to have more responsibilities and less free time as they get older while he stays the same.
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And Steven Universe is on a hiatus of unknown length again. Two episodes were originally scheduled to be part of this block, but have been held back: Gem Harvest and Tiger Philanthropist.

The titles of the next bunch of shorts have also been released: "Crying Breakfast Friends Reaction Vid", "Lion Patiently Narrates Steven Cooking", "Gem Karaoke", "Steven's Song Time", and "Video Chat with Peridot & Lapis"
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Show's still on hiatus, but the new bunch of shorts have all dropped.

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In case you haven't seen the new shorts, all of this batch are videos taken by Steven or another character, and there is nothing expository or meta along the lines of The Classroom Gems.

As per the previous bunch of shorts, Steven does video blogging on whatever his world's version of YouTube is called, though he's gotten a lot more polished. He does a reaction video to a Crying Breakfast Friends episode that lampshades Steven Universe fandom. He does a cooking video with Lion's "help". He plays a song he wrote about how he feels about recent events and provides guitar tabs. There's an adorable video of Steven, Connie, and the Gems singing karaoke to the song from "Sadie's Song", and Peridot and Lapis videochat with Steven after Peridot figures out how to rig the barn for wi-fi.
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