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any word on the didgers getting a new manager? (hopefully)
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The 3 batter minimum is now official for 2020. I thought this was old news, but it just came up in my news feed. Other rule changes too. I'm kind of small-c conservative when it comes to rule changes, but this will speed up the game.
Please have a gander at this SI article and decide if the new rule will do more good than harm. I'm firmly in the 'Manfred is goddamn idiot' camp.
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I would be amazed if this saves more than 5 or 10 minutes in the average regular-season game.
It will not save one minute per game. Not on average, anyway.

As smarter people than me have pointed out, the number of pitching changes this would make illegal, the way things are now, is quite low. The limit only applies within an inning; if the pitcher finishes an inning on only one or two batters, you can replace him the next inning.

How often do you think in MLB a pitcher is brought into a game, faces only 1 or 2 batters, and does not finish an inning? It's VERY rare, actually. Maybe it happens more in the playoffs, but in the regular season you won't see that happen very often at all. I randomly chose May 1, 2019 and looked at every game; there were 17 played, because there were two doubleheaders. It happened exactly... once, in the Phillies-Tigers game.

Was I just lucky? I looked up June 1. Fifteen games. It did not happen a single time.

It's just not going to make a difference.
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I would be amazed if this saves more than 5 or 10 minutes in the average regular-season game.
It will not save one minute per game. Not on average, anyway.

As smarter people than me have pointed out, the number of pitching changes this would make illegal, the way things are now, is quite low. The limit only applies within an inning; if the pitcher finishes an inning on only one or two batters, you can replace him the next inning.

How often do you think in MLB a pitcher is brought into a game, faces only 1 or 2 batters, and does not finish an inning? It's VERY rare, actually. Maybe it happens more in the playoffs, but in the regular season you won't see that happen very often at all. I randomly chose May 1, 2019 and looked at every game; there were 17 played, because there were two doubleheaders. It happened exactly... once, in the Phillies-Tigers game.

Was I just lucky? I looked up June 1. Fifteen games. It did not happen a single time.

It's just not going to make a difference.
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We all know that there are 3 areas that can actually reduce game time:

1. Make batters stay in the box (mostly) Do you really need to adjust your gloves between every pitch?
2. Make Pitchers throw the ball Get the ball, throw the ball, your own defense will love you for it.
3. Shorten commercial breaks Like that will happen




So Bumgarner got a 5 year deal for $85m from the Snakes.

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Please have a gander at this SI article and decide if the new rule will do more good than harm. I'm firmly in the 'Manfred is goddamn idiot' camp.
You and others make good points. I guess it is a bad rule. (Like I said upthread I'm really just a casual fan, so I'm sure some of the things i say will be kind of dumb.)
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Please have a gander at this SI article and decide if the new rule will do more good than harm. I'm firmly in the 'Manfred is goddamn idiot' camp.
It will probably stay in effect until it causes some major disaster in a playoff game, and then be rescinded.
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The 3 batter minimum is now official for 2020. I thought this was old news, but it just came up in my news feed. Other rule changes too. I'm kind of small-c conservative when it comes to rule changes, but this will speed up the game.
Seeing as how my baseball sumo idea didn't really take off, how about:

Reduce the number of balls required for a walk. Every major league pitcher can throw strikes 9 out of 10 times, at least. Reduce the number of balls and you get more hittable balls instead of sliders that almost hit the batters back foot.

Move the pitching mound back to the center of the infield 63'8" and give the batters a millisecond longer to decide whether to swing.
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It will not save one minute per game. Not on average, anyway.

As smarter people than me have pointed out, the number of pitching changes this would make illegal, the way things are now, is quite low. The limit only applies within an inning; if the pitcher finishes an inning on only one or two batters, you can replace him the next inning.

How often do you think in MLB a pitcher is brought into a game, faces only 1 or 2 batters, and does not finish an inning? It's VERY rare, actually. Maybe it happens more in the playoffs, but in the regular season you won't see that happen very often at all. I randomly chose May 1, 2019 and looked at every game; there were 17 played, because there were two doubleheaders. It happened exactly... once, in the Phillies-Tigers game.

Was I just lucky? I looked up June 1. Fifteen games. It did not happen a single time.

It's just not going to make a difference.
It is infrequent enough that players joke about it:

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according to this article, Francisco Lindor is supposed to be the savior of the dodgers anyone heard of him?

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Move the pitching mound back to the center of the infield 63'8" and give the batters a millisecond longer to decide whether to swing.
I canít imagine how damaging doing something like this would be to the game.

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according to this article, Francisco Lindor is supposed to be the savior of the dodgers anyone heard of him?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb...son/ar-BBY3lyA
Has anyone heard of Francisco Lindor? Heís one of the best shortstops in the league, and has been since he started in the majors 5 years ago.
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I canít imagine how damaging doing something like this would be to the game.
Worse than baseball sumo?

But seriously, why would it to unimaginable harm? I understand that the extra 3 feet would result in more hits but pitcher's duels are boring.
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Why would you want to replace Roberts? His worst season was 91 wins and he's been in the world series 50% of the time he's been the Dodgers head coach and we just finished the best regular season the Dodgers have ever had. So is it because he's too successful in the regular season or too successful in the playoffs. Even the argument that its the players and front office and not the coach falls short since Doc's worst season would have been Mattingly's second best season.

The playoffs are a crap shoot and the Dodgers would be insane to fire a coach who balances the roaster this well while also paying attention to the math.
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according to this article, Francisco Lindor is supposed to be the savior of the dodgers anyone heard of him?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb...son/ar-BBY3lyA
Lindor is a great player and the Dodgers would do well to get him. I think that article is crazy to suggest the Dodger aren't the NL West favorites even if they do nothing. Also I think trading May is a bad idea, we saw last season that Ryu had trouble finishing so getting him some innings relief mid season might solve that problem. Kershaw is already the number 3 starter and is just going to get older so the Dodgers need to hold on to May and Gonsolin so that when our older stars fall apart the pieces are there to fill in the roles.

Trading away Joc makes sense same with Kike or Chris Taylor since we've got more defensive talent then we could possibly field but trading the young pitchers isn't worth it.
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Worse than baseball sumo?

But seriously, why would it to unimaginable harm? I understand that the extra 3 feet would result in more hits but pitcher's duels are boring.
Not "more hits." WAY more hits. Slo-pich levels of offense.

Baseball doesn't lack for offense. The current mix of offense, where everyone hits homers but strikes out a lot, is not the most exciting thing ever, but it's still a fair amount of scoring, about 4.8 runs/team/game.

Moving the mound back three feet would result in levels of scoring unprecedented in professional baseball. 1930 would look like 1968 in comparison. Game length would soar; the average game would be like 12-10.
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Is the new rule limiting September call ups in effect for 2020? I assume it’ll help fantasy players as teams will be forced to use the IL rather than just keeping guys on the bench that are likely shit down for the season.
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latest scuttlebutt since they wont be able to get Lindor they want Mookie Betts from the red sox

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Not "more hits." WAY more hits. Slo-pich levels of offense.

Baseball doesn't lack for offense. The current mix of offense, where everyone hits homers but strikes out a lot, is not the most exciting thing ever, but it's still a fair amount of scoring, about 4.8 runs/team/game.

Moving the mound back three feet would result in levels of scoring unprecedented in professional baseball. 1930 would look like 1968 in comparison. Game length would soar; the average game would be like 12-10.
I'm not sure that high scoring games would be horrible for the sport (if high scores bother you, we can deaden the ball to keep more balls in the park) and I don't think that game length is the issue so much as it is the lack of action.

Football games last longer than baseball games and no one complains about their length.

AFAICT die hard baseball fans genuinely enjoy pitcher's duels. Unfortunately, for the rest of us, pitcher's duels are not a lot of fun unless you are sitting right behind the catcher.
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I'm not sure that high scoring games would be horrible for the sport (if high scores bother you, we can deaden the ball to keep more balls in the park) and I don't think that game length is the issue so much as it is the lack of action.
We aren't discussing a bit of an uptick in offense; moving the mound back three feet DOUBLES scoring, increases the length of a game by an hour or more, and would mean every offensive record in baseball history except for stolen bases and strikeouts would be blown away.

Baseball does not need more scoring. It has lots, and there is no reason to think a lack of scoring is hurting attendance or hurting the game. Baseball could use a better paced game, though, and needs to figure out where the Rays are going to play because St. Petersburg ain't it.
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We aren't discussing a bit of an uptick in offense; moving the mound back three feet DOUBLES scoring, increases the length of a game by an hour or more, and would mean every offensive record in baseball history except for stolen bases and strikeouts would be blown away.
Are those the stats with steroids or without?
Historical consistency of stats has been compromised for a while now.
And lots of hits also means more potential for plays, which could lead to shorter innings. Maybe.

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Scoring and offense helps the pace of the game.

I'm not familiar with the problems with St. Petersberg but it seems odd to me that a market like Las Vegas or Charlotte doesn't have a team and Tampa does.
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So this has been bothering me for a while.

Why don't teams sign their players to contracts while they are still in arbitration more often?

Why do clubs like the Nats frequently wait until the eve of free agency to start negotiating?

I understand you can squeeze another cheap year or two out of your rising stars but ISTM that signing them way before free agency is a win/win for players, teams and fans.

Young players get paid earlier in their career (and this is after 3 or 4 years in the minors and 3 years of team control before arbitration even begins for most of them) so they can get paid for what will probably be their most productive years.

Teams get to keep homegrown rising stars.

Fans can invest themselves in the players.

The way the Nats have been running their operations, I'm looking for a Rizzo (the general manager) jersey for my kid so he won't have to get a new one every season.
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Are those the stats with steroids or without?
Historical consistency of stats has been compromised for a while now.
And lots of hits also means more potential for plays, which could lead to shorter innings. Maybe.



Scoring and offense helps the pace of the game.

I'm not familiar with the problems with St. Petersberg but it seems odd to me that a market like Las Vegas or Charlotte doesn't have a team and Tampa does.
I think St Pete (and most of Florida) suffers from the problem that it gets so many retirees as transplants. It just hard to get someone to change team loyalties at retirement age. Plus, and Iím painting with a wide brush, I donít think many retirees really melt into the local community and donít see themselves as Floridians, they still see them as New Yorkers or Bostonians.

I donít know much about Las Vegas, but for Charlotte, they seem to get more transplants in their 20s and 30s who are more amenable to pick up loyalty to the local teams
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So this has been bothering me for a while.

Why don't teams sign their players to contracts while they are still in arbitration more often?

Why do clubs like the Nats frequently wait until the eve of free agency to start negotiating?

I understand you can squeeze another cheap year or two out of your rising stars but ISTM that signing them way before free agency is a win/win for players, teams and fans.

Young players get paid earlier in their career (and this is after 3 or 4 years in the minors and 3 years of team control before arbitration even begins for most of them) so they can get paid for what will probably be their most productive years.

Teams get to keep homegrown rising stars.

Fans can invest themselves in the players.

The way the Nats have been running their operations, I'm looking for a Rizzo (the general manager) jersey for my kid so he won't have to get a new one every season.
I always figure itís twofold. One, thereís always some game of chicken going on with negotiating, just look at the usual state of budget negotiations in Congress or state assemblies.

Second, I figure you always want to have the most information available about a player. PED and domestic abuse suspensions are so long and painful, that teams want to have the best information that the player will avoid domestic abuse situations and not using PEDs.
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Baseball doesn't want Vegas as Vegas is The Gambling Capital of the USA and no Gambling in Baseball (unless we're talking Fantasy Baseball for money).

The problem with Tampa is they built it in St. Pete; in a hard to get to area. They also built a crappy and ugly stadium. St. Pete is the retiree area. Tampa is the still working city in that Metro area.

The stadium should have been built to the East of Tampa in the Brandon/Mango area right off of Rt 75 and nearish Rt 4 where it would have access from the North, South & East (Orlando). Instead it is a pain in the ass to get to the Stadium in the city of retirees. https://goo.gl/maps/KLrhHERMy6uaLENM6

I've been to Tampa a fair amount for work in the past, my daughter went to college there and we use the airport sometimes for vacations where we'll do something in Tampa before heading for Disney World. My In-Laws are in the general Tampa area also. There is no doubt a terrible stadium was built in a terrible choice of area.

That retiree and transplant population is why Tampa only really draws when the Yanks or Red Sox are in town.
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The MLB players union is going to bat for Jacoby Ellsbury, trying to get the Yankees to pay him the $26 million owed on his contract. The Yankees say they can void it because he obtained unapproved medical care from a practitioner at the Progressive Medical Center in Atlanta.

That "integrative" M.D. has some online mentions, not entirely favorable.

Maybe we'll find out more details about Ellsbury's treatment, maybe not.
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Baseball doesn't want Vegas as Vegas is The Gambling Capital of the USA and no Gambling in Baseball (unless we're talking Fantasy Baseball for money).

The problem with Tampa is they built it in St. Pete; in a hard to get to area. They also built a crappy and ugly stadium. St. Pete is the retiree area. Tampa is the still working city in that Metro area.

The stadium should have been built to the East of Tampa in the Brandon/Mango area right off of Rt 75 and nearish Rt 4 where it would have access from the North, South & East (Orlando). Instead it is a pain in the ass to get to the Stadium in the city of retirees. https://goo.gl/maps/KLrhHERMy6uaLENM6

I've been to Tampa a fair amount for work in the past, my daughter went to college there and we use the airport sometimes for vacations where we'll do something in Tampa before heading for Disney World. My In-Laws are in the general Tampa area also. There is no doubt a terrible stadium was built in a terrible choice of area.

That retiree and transplant population is why Tampa only really draws when the Yanks or Red Sox are in town.
Perfect! I knew I saw the stadium when I was heading back from the Dali museum to Tampa.

I canít judge a city by a couple of local bars but I found it odd that no one was paying attention to the Tampa Bay Lightning vs Washington Capitals game, two very good hockey teams.
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Are those the stats with steroids or without?
With. You are vastly underestimating the impact of what you're proposing.

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'm not familiar with the problems with St. Petersberg but it seems odd to me that a market like Las Vegas or Charlotte doesn't have a team and Tampa does.
Well, the honest answer is Tampa had an owner will to pay for a team and a stadium ready to go, and those cities did not have either of those things. It's first and foremost about an owner and a stadium. If you had a few billion and a willingness to pay a huge expansion fee, and a big stadium in Fairbanks, Alaska, they'd give you a team before they just plunked one down in Charlotte without knowing who the owner and stadium were.

Having said that, as others have pointed out, you could not have chosen a worse place in that area to put the team, and it's a HORRIBLE stadium. I don't know if you know the Tampa Bay area, but I am honestly struggling to come up with an equivalent example - I mean, it's kind of like if instead of being in Queens, they put the Mets on Staten Island way down in the furthest corner of it, in Tottenville, only really it's worse than that.

Tampa Bay is, in fact, a more populous metro area than either Charlotte or Vegas; it's larger than any metro area in the USA that does not have a major league ballteam, and larger than five or six that do. It COULD work, but not where it is and not in that dump.
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I always figure itís twofold. One, thereís always some game of chicken going on with negotiating, just look at the usual state of budget negotiations in Congress or state assemblies.

Second, I figure you always want to have the most information available about a player. PED and domestic abuse suspensions are so long and painful, that teams want to have the best information that the player will avoid domestic abuse situations and not using PEDs.
I see what the Astros did with Bregman and Altuve. They struck contracts while they still had 2 years left on Bregman and Altuve. They got very good value and these guys got their guarantee earlier in their career. I am impressed with how the Astros manage their roster.
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Having said that, as others have pointed out, you could not have chosen a worse place in that area to put the team, and it's a HORRIBLE stadium. I don't know if you know the Tampa Bay area, but I am honestly struggling to come up with an equivalent example - I mean, it's kind of like if instead of being in Queens, they put the Mets on Staten Island way down in the furthest corner of it, in Tottenville, only really it's worse than that.
Hey, don't diss Tottenville. It's got a rich baseball tradition.

Have you forgotten the Tottenville Pirates' consecutive PSAL championships in the mid-'90s, back when Jason Marquis was their star pitcher?

It wouldn't be a bad idea to move the Mets from Queens to that part of Staten Island (Fresh Kills Dump Park is convenient to the West Side Highway and major N.J. bridges). A more bucolic atmosphere, fewer jet flyovers.

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While the Mets have often been compared to a dumpster fire, that's a bit too cruel. The jokes would be never ending. (Though Flushing Meadows was once a dump too, its more recent history was as a World Fair ground before Shea was built there.)
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While the Mets have often been compared to a dumpster fire, that's a bit too cruel. The jokes would be never ending. (Though Flushing Meadows was once a dump too, its more recent history was as a World Fair ground before Shea was built there.)
IIrc, Shea construction began in 1961 and the Worlds Fair, a last moment of glory for Robert Moses, was held in 1964/5.
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IIrc, Shea construction began in 1961 and the Worlds Fair, a last moment of glory for Robert Moses, was held in 1964/5.
I'm talking about the 1939/1940 World's Fair (also planned by Robert Moses), whippersnapper.
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The Indians are apparently looking for offers from other teams for Francisco Lindor.

Lindor is one of the greatest baseball players in the world and he's only 26. Cleveland is a contending team. The fact that a contending team doesn't feel they can retain the services of a homegrown talent still early in his prime has to concern everyone; this is not a 30-year-old slugger making a $25 million salary who you think might get old in two years.

Cleveland as a franchise worries the shit out of me, because they've been winning and attendance is still really low and if they can't hold on to the likes of Lindor, that situation isn't going to get better. MLB isn't fun if all the free agents keep going to the same teams.
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Cleveland as a franchise worries the shit out of me, because they've been winning and attendance is still really low and if they can't hold on to the likes of Lindor, that situation isn't going to get better. MLB isn't fun if all the free agents keep going to the same teams.
They drew very well in the 90s once Jacobs Field opened. 6 straight years at 3,000,000+, but they have trouble getting over 2,000,000 now. Barely made it in 2017. 2015 while they were on the rise, it was only 1,388,905.

All this could be as simple as they need to lower prices and see if it draws in more fans. More fans equals more concessions, more souvenirs, more parking paid for.

Cleveland has traditionally been a poor draw though. The New Jacobs Field era was the exception and far from the norm.
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Maybe Cleveland fans are hopelessly disenchanted. They just celebrated 70 years without a championship and recent runs by great teams have ended in heartbreak. So, paradoxically, the only way to restore the fanbase is to win a title they can't afford. It sucks being Cleveland.
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Honestly, I figured the Cleveland ownership decided to drop payroll, rack up some draft picks and try again in 4-5 years. Restock the farm system.
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The umpires union is OK with looking into computerized ball/strike calls.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...ed-strike-zone
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The Indians are apparently looking for offers from other teams for Francisco Lindor.

Lindor is one of the greatest baseball players in the world and he's only 26. Cleveland is a contending team. The fact that a contending team doesn't feel they can retain the services of a homegrown talent still early in his prime has to concern everyone; this is not a 30-year-old slugger making a $25 million salary who you think might get old in two years.

Cleveland as a franchise worries the shit out of me, because they've been winning and attendance is still really low and if they can't hold on to the likes of Lindor, that situation isn't going to get better. MLB isn't fun if all the free agents keep going to the same teams.
Can he play 3B? I know a team that's looking.
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The umpires union is OK with looking into computerized ball/strike calls.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...ed-strike-zone
The best part of this plan is that they will allow earlier retirement. I have not generally had problems with plate calls by umpires under 30 or even 35 but a lot of the 50+ year old umpires are just guessing.
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Hyun-Jin Ryu to the Blue Jays for $80 million over 4 years.

He just had a great year with the Dodgers, and if he keeps churning out 5 WAR for $20 million a year, Toronto will be pretty happy with the deal. But last season was not exactly typical for him, and he's heading into his age-33 season.
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Hyun-Jin Ryu to the Blue Jays for $80 million over 4 years.

He just had a great year with the Dodgers, and if he keeps churning out 5 WAR for $20 million a year, Toronto will be pretty happy with the deal. But last season was not exactly typical for him, and he's heading into his age-33 season.
It still seems like a pretty team friendly deal.

It seems like all the Boras clients are signing earlier this year and aside from Rendon, Strasburg and Cole, his clients have not really gotten overpaid.

I am still boggled by the Moustakas contract unless it was an attempt to thin the 3B market so Rendon could cash in for more.
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Lindor would be a great pickup for anybody. Not only talented, but a joy to watch as well. I'd like to see the Yankees pick him up but not sure if he is needed. Torres can play short and LeMehieu can play second and just about anything else.

I'm glad for Romine that he gets to be #1 in Detroit. It must be a bitch to be behind a guy like Sanchez who is such an erratic fielding catcher and can be at times and automatic out in the lineup. Good for Higashioka to finally be able to be on the parent club full time.

About the 3 batter rule. Dumbass move. Just like the no-pitch intentional walk. Neither is going to save any time. I bet what does happen is that some exec will say "Hey, you know what? With all that time that we're saving with the 3 batter rule we can add another 30 second ad spot between innings!"
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That's honestly quite surprising. I expected Ryu to go to Anaheim.

The good for Toronto:

1. They desperately needed a starter. I think they were pretty close to calling up Damuri Ajashi and asking how his elbow was.
2. Ryu is REALLY good.
3. Toronto probably has more spare money than any team in a major North American sports league (not an exaggeration.) $20 million for four years is a very low risk for them.

The bad is obvious; Ryu gets hurt a lot. He's a risky acquisition; he has never really has a fully healthy season, so his arm could explode in June.

Still, Toronto needed to provide the fans and their young prospects with some assurance that they're trying to win baseball games, and they're swimming in money, so what the hell. Ryu will not help them make the playoffs in 2020, but he could in 2021. Ryu's contract will end just as guys like Vladdy Guerrero and Bo Bichette start to get expensive.
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Can he play 3B? I know a team that's looking.
As to this - almost any MLB shortstop can play at least a passable 3B. It's not the same; you need less range and agility, but at least as much immediate quickness, a strong arm, and the skill of fielding bunts and dribblers up the line has to be learned. The basic skill set is the same, though.

Lindor has never playing an inning at third in MLB, so it'd take some getting used to. He is a really good fielder, though, he could do it.
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The best part of this plan is that they will allow earlier retirement. I have not generally had problems with plate calls by umpires under 30 or even 35 but a lot of the 50+ year old umpires are just guessing.
It was the NFL, not MLB, but Mike Pereira (former head of officiating in the NFL) was recently interviewed on a local sports radio station about the state of officiating in the NFL. One thing they brought up was age. He pointed out that the better officials are older because they have more experience and make better judgment calls. It was a compelling argument (and he certainly is an authority), and I assume this applies to the MLB as well.

Yes, you do wonder about the ability to see where the ball goes in older age but with an electronic strike zone that should matter less. If your umpires get younger, things will likely get worse, not better.
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It was the NFL, not MLB, but Mike Pereira (former head of officiating in the NFL) was recently interviewed on a local sports radio station about the state of officiating in the NFL. One thing they brought up was age. He pointed out that the better officials are older because they have more experience and make better judgment calls. It was a compelling argument (and he certainly is an authority), and I assume this applies to the MLB as well.
I really do not think it does. The NFL has far, far more situations where the official must make a judgment call - was that offensive pass interference?

MLB's primary umpire calls are balls and strikes and safe/out. There are actually very few judgement calls that are not just seeing whether something happened before something else or seeing where the ball went. In theory there are (balks) but in practice it doesn't happen much.

The impact of poor ball/strike calls is HUGE. It can ruin a game... and that's why old umps are likeliest to miss. And I've never seen evidence younger umps are likelier to blow safe/out calls.
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In theory there are (balks) but in practice it doesn't happen much.
I agree with everything you said except this. IMHO, it happen a LOT more often than it's called.*

But I'm also against deciding a game on a (relatively) ticky-tack call, so...I guess there's really no ideal outcome for me.

* Nowhere near as bad as travelling in the NBA or offensive holding in football, but still.
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Fans often think something is a balk when it's not , they yell about it I know the balk rule changed recently but most fans probably don't know that either.
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So, during the playoff thread we briefly discussed the MLB plan to reduce the minor leagues in order to pay players more.

While I do love the atmosphere and affordable prices of MiLB, I agree that a reduction in the minor leagues is a good idea. This isn’t the 1940s and a bus pulls up with some farm boy from North Dakota who’s got the raw talent for the big leagues, but hasn’t been scouted. Nowadays, a scout can grab their iPad and see footage from 20 angles of a 17 year old kid in Beijing.

A lot of the guys in the minor leagues are there, well, because you need 9 men on the field. But they’re never going to make it to the big leagues and maybe it’s best to end the dream sooner rather than later.

In exchange, though, they do have to get serious about increasing the pay for the players that do remain. This can’t just be a cost cutting measure. Again, this isn’t the 1940s where even the big leaguers worked by selling cars in the offseason.

How to do the cuts? Well, that’s a tricky one since some teams and cities have built nice new parks over the last decade or so while others are still playing in Great Depression era ballparks.

Perhaps college baseball, although it’s a niche, would benefit from the reduced minor leagues. Of course, the drawback of college baseball is that it’s tied to the academic year and thus won’t be an option for the family that enjoyed a minor league game in July or August.
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