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Old 02-13-2019, 07:05 PM
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google says the sdmb is an unsafe site


when i logged on using a tablet google gave me static about the nb being an unsafe site because of the certificate

and now the https part of the address is in red and marked out.........

just letting you know
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Old 02-13-2019, 07:42 PM
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So Google finally indexed the BBQ Pit?
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Old 02-14-2019, 06:23 AM
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Tuning in with Firefox requires about 4 extra button clicks, including setting up an exception. Not a good look to attract new participants. I don't remember the last site that gave me such a warning, but if it was my first visit, I wouldn't return. This has happened before, here, too. Can we just fix that so it stops happening?
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Old 02-14-2019, 06:57 AM
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Hi, I'm at work now. I use Firefox at work, also, and the warning did not show.
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Old 02-14-2019, 07:42 AM
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My Kerio Control has suddenly started blocking lots of pages on the Dope
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Old 02-14-2019, 08:39 AM
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It isn't safe. I routinely waste countless hours of otherwise productive time and shit my pants laughing at the stuff that gets posted here.
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Old 02-14-2019, 10:08 AM
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Old 02-14-2019, 10:15 AM
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FWW my Firefox at work, where I have no issue, is an older version. We had to deliberately install an outdated version because some Oracle software would not run with the newer version.
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Old 02-14-2019, 04:41 PM
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Yes, my Chrome sez your Certificate has expired.
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Old 02-14-2019, 09:23 PM
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FWW my Firefox at work, where I have no issue, is an older version. We had to deliberately install an outdated version because some Oracle software would not run with the newer version.
Also FWIW, I have no issues with up to date Safari, Firefox, or Chrome on a Mac. I use adblock on Chrome and Firefox, so could it have to do with ads? I've seen unsafe site warnings triggered by ads on other sites from time to time.
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Old 02-14-2019, 09:45 PM
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Old 02-14-2019, 10:00 PM
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Of course it's an unsafe site. I mean, all those kitteh pics are really bad for you. And don't forget Monkey Butlers and rabid Republicans.

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lol this is why im here my kind of smartasses …..
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Old 02-14-2019, 11:28 PM
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Hmm, my Firefox says they have a cert issued by Network Solutions that expires January 10, 2020. What does Chrome report?
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Old 02-14-2019, 11:55 PM
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Hmm, my Firefox says they have a cert issued by Network Solutions that expires January 10, 2020. What does Chrome report?
I no longer get the message.
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I’m on a fairly new IPod and didn’t see a thing. Hmmm
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Old 02-15-2019, 12:46 AM
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I'm on Chrome and also getting notices on just about every page.
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Old 02-15-2019, 02:27 AM
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Firefox is showing the padlock symbol with a diagonal line thru it; Chrome is showing "not secure" before the URL, but not showing the red "http:" that I sometimes see.

News flash! As I typed this post in Chrome, the "not secure" changed from black (gray?) to red and an exclamation point in a triangle symbol showed up. Things are going downhill?

Then when I previewed, "not secure" became black again, for about 30 seconds, then red. I guess if I want to be secure, I'll have to type much faster.
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Old 02-15-2019, 04:54 AM
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Sorry about all the text, but this is what I can see before adding the exception which allows the site to show:

The owner of boards.straightdope.com has configured their website improperly. To protect your information from being stolen, Firefox has not connected to this website.

boards.straightdope.com uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate is not trusted because the issuer certificate is unknown. The server might not be sending the appropriate intermediate certificates. An additional root certificate may need to be imported. Error code: SEC_ERROR_UNKNOWN_ISSUER

https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/ Peer’s Certificate issuer is not recognized. HTTP Strict Transport Security: false HTTP Public Key Pinning: false Certificate chain: -----BEGIN CERTIFICATE----- MIIGdjCCBV6gAwIBAgIQP7is9b5Puc6BjVhoU9K+sjANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQsFADB6 MQswCQYDVQQGEwJVUzELMAkGA1UECBMCVkExEDAOBgNVBAcTB0hlcm5kb24xITAf BgNVBAoTGE5ldHdvcmsgU29sdXRpb25zIEwuTC5DLjEpMCcGA1UEAxMgTmV0d29y ayBTb2x1dGlvbnMgRFYgU2VydmVyIENBIDIwHhcNMTkwMTEwMDAwMDAwWhcNMjAw MTEwMjM1OTU5WjBnMSEwHwYDVQQLExhEb21haW4gQ29udHJvbCBWYWxpZGF0ZWQx IDAeBgNVBAsTF25zUHJvdGVjdCBTZWN1cmUgWHByZXNzMSAwHgYDVQQDExdib2Fy ZHMuc3RyYWlnaHRkb3BlLmNvbTCCASIwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQADggEPADCCAQoC ggEBAMEEbYSxOEzOGDCnsOdpFU7SNHkMg3DU11Hqw5TRi3J6vs9sP6gg8OgNEUNX fN9lRsE8sFKpxmSpTrTWX7Ldo7I65kWEUcHr0v1olRDk+5KUNXVcCbsn2cjZrr5P 4SDC4/nafTLFroVqHNi/50tfB/S8w1Bu+uGFMig6krKj11H98HZv+AtM0Z1XKloI dExmaXLAn9N2hM67mjAHlmWv5nK/SLI+k/ztXchgNY01nSeWKvhd4iBhkSzvguTg xpJn9mfRzcbKMFP/rLHyCct/VWYAn4g4hv5LbGOPajXkAopbi0NMG88k8Cj3K7WP 65S/Ns+F/bBayu2pfLoEmFwPxh0CAwEAAaOCAwkwggMFMB8GA1UdIwQYMBaAFFHO 31QdtyxXq2hhSAIa07KF7ECqMB0GA1UdDgQWBBSPg4CqxKT7UeXaUnjWQ8sbQ/Zn sjAOBgNVHQ8BAf8EBAMCBaAwDAYDVR0TAQH/BAIwADAdBgNVHSUEFjAUBggrBgEF BQcDAQYIKwYBBQUHAwIwdQYDVR0gBG4wbDBgBgwrBgEEAYYOAQIBCQEwUDBOBggr BgEFBQcCARZCaHR0cDovL3d3dy5uZXR3b3Jrc29sdXRpb25zLmNvbS9sZWdhbC9T U0wtbGVnYWwtcmVwb3NpdG9yeS1jcHMuanNwMAgGBmeBDAECATBJBgNVHR8EQjBA MD6gPKA6hjhodHRwOi8vY3JsLm5ldHNvbHNzbC5jb20vTmV0d29ya1NvbHV0aW9u c0RWU2VydmVyQ0EyLmNybDB7BggrBgEFBQcBAQRvMG0wRAYIKwYBBQUHMAKGOGh0 dHA6Ly9jcnQubmV0c29sc3NsLmNvbS9OZXR3b3JrU29sdXRpb25zRFZTZXJ2ZXJD QTIuY3J0MCUGCCsGAQUFBzABhhlodHRwOi8vb2NzcC5uZXRzb2xzc2wuY29tMD8G A1UdEQQ4MDaCF2JvYXJkcy5zdHJhaWdodGRvcGUuY29tght3d3cuYm9hcmRzLnN0 cmFpZ2h0ZG9wZS5jb20wggEEBgorBgEEAdZ5AgQCBIH1BIHyAPAAdgC72d+8H4px tZOUI5eqkntHOFeVCqtS6BqQlmQ2jh7RhQAAAWg4hmNfAAAEAwBHMEUCIQDYiJUq Bb9i1LmJQy4cjcCoxne9iqKjwQYcjrYsI0qShwIgLXYRmnrpjFZ/ZU9ZC7VLwkW8 y/CL4Ze0i5K+jvgRb3UAdgBep3P531bA57U2SH3QSeAyepGaDIShEhKEGHWWgXFF WAAAAWg4hmOFAAAEAwBHMEUCIQDc1npgEvrmCXJtCzK6e5YTIZ6McJ2JZI88kceP 6rVB6QIgbM1wRM2UYoi0WqrO56SGPcMhLdJRKxdCjXE9Al3ZECMwDQYJKoZIhvcN AQELBQADggEBABFElvShg0j4r+TUKF6lXtpgryfWo2Eijwm7XfgZvP4VSWSTomHn lkVGqGuJARJqaT4jx2QCOj5PJt8w1HYjn8Wk2DbFhxwqCs9dnYxWg4davU4PBvds y7d1f4wjexD007n48ExxUE/+vFtsAVKqt+uYUEDYNuqGT1B514LC+v58NjjoZ7kV BDxbOQx7x5yMAG7jXxX4cvm+d6LQuOOru4ts/eTwbm+q0RGmOCMWjoGbIYQD3oxD rcd5jBpdxvIMgrDwqyQFy3+iwD4VtIe8/LnMtzdv8yPeW55vE6GdPpMlc4hyWM2s WUnMEYbA1+DsTFiXGq5YbYZOGWAf7OP5no4= -----END CERTIFICATE-----
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Old 02-15-2019, 07:47 AM
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And what worries me is that at least three people reading all that are saying "ah --- that makes sense now".
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The fact that not everyone gets those warnings makes me wonder if it could be a weird caching issue. Browser aren't supposed to cache certificates, but there's a couple of comments in this thread on Super User that indicates maybe sometimes they do anyway.
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I've alerted management to this situation again. They were looking at it yesterday. Guess they're not finished.

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Old 02-15-2019, 12:48 PM
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Latest Chrome, updated Windows 10 Pro, no issues. But I am using a number of security add-ins, Trustwave, Privacy Badger, and Disconnect, which block a lot of malicious stuff.
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Awright, which one of you goombahs told Google about the squid and the goat?
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Things do appear to have resolved. I think they renewed the security certificate, but don't quote me on that.

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Old 02-16-2019, 06:48 AM
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SDMB opened today with no errors. Thanks!
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Old 02-16-2019, 08:54 AM
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Things do appear to have resolved. I think they renewed the security certificate...
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Old 02-16-2019, 05:09 PM
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SDMB opened today with no errors. Thanks!

Well, one could consider (insert the name of your favorite thread here) to be an error. But technically it looks to be working better.
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Things do appear to have resolved. I think they renewed the security certificate, but don't quote me on that.
(In chrome) I'm still seeing the "not secure" prefix to the URL, and when I begin creating a post, like this one, it changes to red. Personally, I'm not worried, but others might not be so cavalier about it.
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No, Jenny. We are sorry that we inconvenienced you.

Seriously.....a big THANK YOU from all of us......for the work you put in every day to keep this place up and running.

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I'm still getting them. Do I have to like clear my cache or something?
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Well, shucks. Now I'm getting Sultantheme's skin AND a Not Secure warning.
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I get the unsecured message on Firefox if I attempt login on a page not prefixed with 'https'.
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Old 02-17-2019, 11:25 PM
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No, Jenny. We are sorry that we inconvenienced you.

Seriously.....a big THANK YOU from all of us......for the work you put in every day to keep this place up and running.

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Actually the Security certificate is a really critical thing, so we did her a favor.

But we do appreciate her labors, too.
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Maybe I spoke too soon (post #29). The problem now seems to be fixed and I don't see any "not secure" messages in any color.
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Well, shucks. Now I'm getting Sultantheme's skin AND a Not Secure warning.
Has any of this resolved for you?

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I still get the red slash through the lock on a page that doesn't load as 'https://', and Firefox will prevent my login if I try. But if I get to a page that is secure and has a login button, I can and then all pages are secure.
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How exactly are you getting to a page that loads as http instead of https?
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How exactly are you getting to a page that loads as http instead of https?
For me it just seemed to randomly happen--but this was earlier when they were still trying to fix things, so I assumed it was a temporary thing.
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As far as I am aware, all of the http vs https issues have been fixed (I don't personally get to talk to the tech guys though). We shouldn't be serving up any pages as http at this point. They should all be https.
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If you have a link without the s, then it'll still take you to the http version, without auto-redirecting. And any non-explicit links from there will also be to the http version. So if someone still has the non-secure URL for the boards bookmarked, they'll get the non-secure page, and if they then navigate to some thread, that thread will be the non-secure version, and if they copy and paste the URL to that thread, it'll still be to the non-secure version, and then if anyone else (including someone who usually uses the secure version) clicks on a link they've posted, they'll be taken to the non-secure version.
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How exactly are you getting to a page that loads as http instead of https?
I think it resulted from clicking on the Trending Threads link. The main page loaded as https, but those had no http nor https. They still don't, but the issue appears fixed now. Thanks!

ETA: nope, those links still will show the nonsecure icon before I am logged in.

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I think it resulted from clicking on the Trending Threads link. The main page loaded as https, but those had no http nor https.
Yep, that's broke. I'll let our admin know.

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Google is now saying this site is not secure.
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You’re literally repeating the thread title.
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You’re literally repeating the thread title.

But it is true. At this point in time, while I am typing, Google again sez this site is not secure. This needs to be fixed, especially for payments for membership. No one should be paying until the site is secure.
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Okay, can you tell me what happened exactly?

I'm trying to trace where we may have missed where it needs to be "https" instead of http ... you may have found another one for us. But I can't see exactly where.

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Google is now saying this site is not secure.
To TPTB: Any chance that "site not secure" stuff is not a "https-vs.-http" thing?

I've noticed that the recently-added large advertisements that appear above the "The Straight Dope" banner on every boards.straightdope page are extremely memory-intensive. Using up that much memory is suspicious in and of itself and could lead to this site being flagged as unsafe.

What those top-of-the-page ads do is continually chew up system resources as they load new images constantly. Using Chrome, you can watch your Refresh button at upper left as this occurs -- it never settles down into an "X" for long ... an ad image is always downloading.

For those on Windows machines, they can open Task Manager, look at the Processes tab, and watch their browser process (chrome.exe for me) steadily increase the amount of memory allocated. Normally, my largest chrome.exe process (there are multiple, which is normal) would be using ~120 K of memory -- withe the top-of-the-page ads running, my largest process was getting up over 500 K before I killed the process.

FWIW, these issues occurred on a laptop -- I don't notice the same issue on my iPhone 6 running the Safari browser. My laptop is a Dell Latitude E6410 running a ten-year-old operating system: Windows 7 Professional, Service Pack 1. The age of the OS may or may not be an issue. My version of the Chrome browser is "Version 60.0.3112.113 (Official Build) (32-bit)".

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Yeah, it could be an ad. (Any problem could always be an ad, because different ads are served up all the time and any of them could be not as they could or should be.)

We would ask if you can identify such ads when you encounter them, that would help us troubleshoot these issues.

We are starting to get some complaints from people with older OS/what might be considered "legacy" computers ... as I guess Win7 is now. 32-bit is probably having a hard go of it in these days. Had a case a few months ago when someone could not complete the registration process on their computer, not sure what it was but the system just could not handle it. They said their system was "ancient," but didn't specify how so. They bought a new computer and that fixed everything.

Had a couple of CAPTCHA problems reported as well, probably the same sort of thing.

Please keep those reports coming in, we want you to be secure on the site, of course.

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It could be a ad, but it's not one particular ad.

The site not being secure means that no one should pay for anything here.

The solution is simple, just let jerry or whoever is the iT person know and they can check it out. Dont you see "Not secure" also, when you use Chrome?
Dangerous Not secure or Dangerous
We suggest you don't enter any private or personal information on this page. If possible, don't use the site.

Not secure: Proceed with caution. Something is severely wrong with the privacy of this site’s connection. Someone might be able to see the information you send or get through this site.

You might see a "Login not secure" or "Payment not secure" message.
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