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Old 02-21-2019, 09:38 AM
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Dopers who long to kill, or fantasize about killing, certain groups of strangers


I'm not sure if any Dopers have out-and-out stated that they want to kill strangers due to political ideology or some other categorization, but at least a few have, IMO, given strong indications that they secretly long to kill, or fantasize about killing, certain groups of Americans (or others). I suspect this isn't a terribly uncommon feeling -- we live in a society that glorifies violence in a lot of ways.

This recent post from Stuntman Mike comes to mind:

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Depending on what you mean by "bring out the guns" and who you define as "the altright", it's arguably already happened (and has for the left-wing as well).

One of the forum rules is: "Do not post threats or state or imply that any individual or group is deserving of harm." Talk of joining an insurgency is probably a bit too close to, or over that line, for me to feel comfortable discussing my personal opinions on the matter.
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BTW, two things:

1) I don't think a civil war is going to erupt anytime soon either.

2) If it did, the red side, which includes most of the gun owners, military, and law enforcement, would absolutely kick the ever-loving shit out of the blue side, and Mexico, and Canada, and anyone else if needs be.
Any other Dopers that you think have given indications that they secretly long to kill, or fantasize about killing, some of their fellow citizens?
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Just do a search on "militia AND tyranny" and you'll find quite a few more. That's how they describe and justify it to themselves, not that they will directly admit fantasizing about killing cops, even though that's what it would be.
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Old 02-21-2019, 09:55 AM
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Nobody I can think of off the top of my head.

Children often create fantasies where they have more power than in real life, especially if they are feeling vulnerable. The same may be true for certain kinds of brain damage or mental illness.

I'll note for the record that children are not allowed to post here.
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Two of those are obvious hyperbole, unlike the quotes in the OP.

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Meh, 2/4 I'd say. It's really pretty difficult to construe those hyperbolic jokes by BPC & The Librarian as indicative of fantasies about actual violence. Are you suggesting that BPC really fantasizes about using nuclear weapons against schools, or that The Librarian fantasizes about aborting babies because of the nasty people they might become?

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Two of those are obvious hyperbole, unlike the quotes in the OP.
I'm not sure HD's are decidedly worse. I don't know if there's consensus on what the McVeigh one means exactly; I'm somewhat aware it was controversial. The other two seem more hypothetical. Rhetoric contained in the latter is troubling, and may have been intended to get under the skin of others rather than reflect a fantasy.

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Meh, 2/4 I'd say. It's really pretty difficult to construe those hyperbolic jokes by BPC & The Librarian as indicative of fantasies about actual violence. Are you suggesting that BPC really fantasizes about using nuclear weapons against schools, or that The Librarian fantasizes about aborting babies because of the nasty people they might become?
Based on how BPC posts, it's hard to tell. Read his other posts in the thread(s).
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I'm not sure HD's are decidedly worse...
I'm not sure about HD specifically, but I tend to take fantasies of violence from people rather more seriously when they are strong advocates of private gun ownership and when they discuss how and when they might (or do) use their guns. It's kind of like how you'd take someone's threat of suicide more seriously if they have researched and obtained the means to kill themselves.

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Those quotes by HD do not say what you think.
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Well Homicidal Ideation is an extremely common thing.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homicidal_ideation

Are you asking about people that fantasize about killing specific groups of people, albeit strangers, or just fantasizing about killing any group of strangers?
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If there were an all-out civil war, I sure as shit wouldn't be making any confident bets. The scariest weapons wielding motherfuckers I know are not red-voters, that is for sure.

At any rate, stupid thoughts all around for sure. Why would you even talk like this? Just stupid, my side's dick is bigger than yours macho posturing.

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I'm not sure if any Dopers have out-and-out stated that they want to kill strangers due to political ideology or some other categorization, but at least a few have, IMO, given strong indications that they secretly long to kill, or fantasize about killing, certain groups of Americans (or others). I suspect this isn't a terribly uncommon feeling -- we live in a society that glorifies violence in a lot of ways.

This recent post from Stuntman Mike comes to mind:



And these from HurricaneDitka:







Any other Dopers that you think have given indications that they secretly long to kill, or fantasize about killing, some of their fellow citizens?
Decided to promote yourself to board commissar, eh? This is a good start. Begin by othering some easy targets. Soon, you'll be playing the big game and have people questioning who is politically reliable and truly committed to the cause. When you were just a finger-wagging weenie for whom everything was about racism, you were just a BigT style annoyance. This thread, and you, actively disgust me.
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This thread, and you, actively disgust me.
You've decided to crawl out from under your rock again, huh, after running away for a couple of months after you embarrassed yourself asking people to pay you to leave? You're really too pathetic for insults from you to have any bite.
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Well Homicidal Ideation is an extremely common thing.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homicidal_ideation

Are you asking about people that fantasize about killing specific groups of people, albeit strangers, or just fantasizing about killing any group of strangers?
Any and all of the above, if you like. Anything you'd like to link to if you think a Doper appears to be longing for, or fantasizing about, killing others.

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Decided to promote yourself to board commissar, eh? This is a good start. Begin by othering some easy targets. Soon, you'll be playing the big game and have people questioning who is politically reliable and truly committed to the cause. When you were just a finger-wagging weenie for whom everything was about racism, you were just a BigT style annoyance. This thread, and you, actively disgust me.
And we'd been getting along so well lately! Apologies if highlighting some posts that, in my opinion, are very disturbing, fills you with "disgust". Seems like a reasonable thing to me, but YMMV. No need to participate if you either disagree about these posts, or don't think it's important or interesting to point out posts that you believe indicate longing or fantasies of deadly violence.

And I'll note that (by my memory) you've very rarely, if ever, specifically criticized or even attempted to refute any specific argument I've made. It's always, or nearly always, some sort of broad, non-specific criticism like this one about some larger point that you appear to believe I'm making (but which usually is only in your mind, not actually in my posts), rather than my individual arguments. This is a shame -- perhaps if you put some effort into reading the specific points I make, and then trying to refute any that you disagreed with, we could have some real discussion. I've certainly had plenty of real, substantive, and interesting discussions with conservatives and others who have disagreed with specific things I've said on this board, and I'd be thrilled to add you to that list. It's up to you if you'd like to participate.
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Telling someone that they disgust you may not be as big an insult as you'd hope
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I have a feeling there are many Americans who are into 'execution fantasy'. They become aroused whenever they think of someone being executed (or better yet, imagine themselves doing it themselves -- legally, or extra-legally), and I suspect many of them 'fantasize to completion'.

At least that's the impression they give with their bloodthirsty rants.
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I have a feeling there are many Americans who are into 'execution fantasy'. They become aroused whenever they think of someone being executed (or better yet, imagine themselves doing it themselves -- legally, or extra-legally), and I suspect many of them 'fantasize to completion'.

At least that's the impression they give with their bloodthirsty rants.
Do you have any examples of such rants?
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Do you have any examples of such rants?
Not here. But I see plenty in the comments of Yahoo articles and other places.
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Not here. But I see plenty in the comments of Yahoo articles and other places.
I mean, "other places" would include literally thousands of movies, the archetypes being Death Wish, Dirty Harry, Rambo...

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Decided to promote yourself to board commissar, eh? This is a good start. Begin by othering some easy targets.
Goddammit, I read this far, and thought, "WillFarnaby's posting again," then went and checked, and realized I was reading Scumpup. Waste of time.

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Several months back DavidwithaBanhammer pitted the guy who killed the only guy who had a proven track record in murdering the president.
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Goodness me, Scumpup features prominently in this thread too.

(which I was able to search up because I remembered so vividly that people were vile in it, not particularly WHICH people were vile. In case you're wondering)

Shout out to Shagnasty too, who reaches a higher Genocide Body Count in that thread than any of the other candidates so far
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I thought you were kidding, or that what he said wouldn't actually be that bad. Nope:

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I am not really opposed to genocide in general as long as it doesn't affect me or my family. It is a simple fact of sociobiology and human nature as well as a recurring theme in human history. It is going on all over the world right now and there isn't enough news space to cover it all. A lot of it is sub-optimal and even cruel but it isn't like it will ever go away. Given that, I might as well have a turn for my purposes some time.

BTW, this deal is way sweeter than having to sacrifice myself for my child. This is what you call a win-win.
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Seems like a weird pit thread, you are selecting a general topic that needs pitting and then we all name names, and we create a Message Board "Black List" or something? That's not like most pit threads I've ever seen.

Violent fantasies is sort of an interesting topic though, I've read stuff about how the same people that end up killing people or doing mass shootings, or just violent fantasies in general where they are the bad guy, often are the same people who have fantasies of being the hero, and the good guy that saves the day, the fantasy must satisfy something the person craves, I guess just power, domination, fear, respect?
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Seems like a weird pit thread, you are selecting a general topic that needs pitting and then we all name names, and we create a Message Board "Black List" or something? That's not like most pit threads I've ever seen.

Violent fantasies is sort of an interesting topic though, I've read stuff about how the same people that end up killing people or doing mass shootings, or just violent fantasies in general where they are the bad guy, often are the same fantasies of being the hero, and the good guy, the fantasy must satisfy something the person craves, I guess just power, domination, fear, respect?
It's meant to be like the other omnibus threads. And I agree that it's an interesting topic.
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It's entertaining how many right-wingers assume liberals don't own guns.
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Squirt guns don't count.

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It's entertaining how many right-wingers assume liberals don't own guns.
At least when we make bombs, they go off.

And by the way, Jack Ruby deserves pitting. Not for the reason cited but for denying the country the chance to learn from the source if Oswald actually was the assassin, and if he acted alone or as part of a large group.
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I'll bet any and everything the HD longs for the day to be able to shoot someone. Anyone. Though preferably brown people. He WANTS someone to knock on his door wrong. Or accidentally step foot in his yard. I've known too many idiots with fantasies like that. The question with them isn't "without a gun, how will you protect yourself if someone breaks in?" It's "without a gun, if someone breaks in, how are you going to shoot them?"
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I don't want to kill people, but I think America is so divided that we'd be better off if we could have 2 different governments. Like if all the urban areas could form one unified nation and all the rural areas form their nation and we live by different laws. The divide isnt' blue vs red states, its urban vs rural.

I think we'd get along better if that happened.
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It's entertaining how many right-wingers assume liberals don't own guns.
https://knpr.org/knpr/2017-01/fearin...re-buying-guns

I think a lot of right wingers assume liberals would passively cower in fear while a bunch of elderly baby boomers used pistols and shotguns to try to establish a neofascist, white nationalist ethnostate.

If you watch videos like this, when a white right winger pulls a gun, people aren't afraid they way they are thinking they will be. People know they are fighting for decency, democracy, rule of law, etc. at this point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH7aTp8DsVI

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It's meant to be like the other omnibus threads. And I agree that it's an interesting topic.
You specifically solicited the naming of names, you slimy self-righteous POS. Omnibus thread, my ass. Your goal is to drive people from the board. When did this place become about enemies lists?
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I think a lot of right wingers assume liberals would passively cower in fear while a bunch of elderly baby boomers used pistols and shotguns to try to establish a neofascist, white nationalist ethnostate.

If you watch videos like this, when a white right winger pulls a gun, people aren't afraid they way they are thinking they will be. People know they are fighting for decency, democracy, rule of law, etc. at this point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH7aTp8DsVI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVDXXjqo66w
I know plenty of "elderly baby boomers" who are absolutely against a "neofascist white nationalist ethnostate", and I also know of many young people who would be for it. This idea that it's all the baby boomers acting this way is bullshit.

(In fact, the majority of the boomers in my family are rabidly anti-Trump. My dad's starting to get a little TOO radical, in fact. It's kind of annoying)
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I don't want to kill people, but I think America is so divided that we'd be better off if we could have 2 different governments. Like if all the urban areas could form one unified nation and all the rural areas form their nation and we live by different laws. The divide isnt' blue vs red states, its urban vs rural.

I think we'd get along better if that happened.

Your suggestion is extremely close to my suggestion (way back when I was in high school, decades ago) for peace in Israel/Palestine.
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You specifically solicited the naming of names, you slimy self-righteous POS. Omnibus thread, my ass. Your goal is to drive people from the board. When did this place become about enemies lists?
I love you as I love all Dopers, and I hope all Dopers want to improve themselves, as I do. None of us are perfect and all of us have things we can improve, such as (perhaps) recognizing weaknesses within ourselves like a possible unconscious desire for bloodshed.

Best wishes and love to you and your family!
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You specifically solicited the naming of names, you slimy self-righteous POS. Omnibus thread, my ass. Your goal is to drive people from the board. When did this place become about enemies lists?
Look, Chuckles, nobody is going to pay you to a dime to leave no matter how much of an asshole you are. But if anything was going to drive people from the board, it would be your poisonous trolling.

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I don't want to kill people, but I think America is so divided that we'd be better off if we could have 2 different governments. Like if all the urban areas could form one unified nation and all the rural areas form their nation and we live by different laws. The divide isnt' blue vs red states, its urban vs rural.

I think we'd get along better if that happened.
I agree. Unfortunately, the logistics of 100 blue dots in a red sea would be too tricky.
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I don't want to kill people, but I think America is so divided that we'd be better off if we could have 2 different governments. Like if all the urban areas could form one unified nation and all the rural areas form their nation and we live by different laws. The divide isnt' blue vs red states, its urban vs rural.
Yeah, but we're not giving away all the National Parks to the "rural" part. I favor the West Coast republic, and everyone in Arizona can swap with New Mexico, so that we can extend a contiguous L-shape to get the Grand Canyon.
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I know, right? Poor little defenseless me....
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I'll bet any and everything the HD longs for the day to be able to shoot someone. Anyone. Though preferably brown people. He WANTS someone to knock on his door wrong. Or accidentally step foot in his yard. I've known too many idiots with fantasies like that. The question with them isn't "without a gun, how will you protect yourself if someone breaks in?" It's "without a gun, if someone breaks in, how are you going to shoot them?"
I'm convinced of this too, but I doubt they extend it to wanting to kill someone who "knock on their door wrong". I think they secretly dream of an actual intruder/criminal entering their house and them saving the day with their gun, turning the tables and killing the evil guy. Or killing the terrorists in the movie theater.

Or of having finally a tyrannical government and them taking their weapons and rebelling heroically. But this is vastly less of a problem because 1) the tyrannical government part won't happen and 2) if it happens, they won't take their guns and rebel. They're more likely to form a citizen militia to hunt down the traitors who oppose the new government and even more likely to keep going to work so that they'll be able to pay the rent and feed their family, also avoiding in the process the unpleasant "being tortured in a secret prison" part of this rebellion thing.
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I'm not sure it quite fits the OP, but near enough - I know it's only a game, but several people fill their Celebrity Death Pool lists with (usually right-wing) politicians with whom they clearly disagree. I can understand that, I guess, but when it moves on to their families I do wonder if it is entirely healthy. And I'm no fan of those people myself. Sure, all death pool lists are distasteful. I think some are potentially more worrying than others.
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This also might be a bit of a hijack, but I remember a while back a thread about "would you kill an innocent child to save your son / daughter" and it became a pissing contest of "I would commit continent-wide genocide!"
Fucking disturbing. And I'll bet someone will reply to this claiming to not understand what's disturbing about it.
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