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My fella, who has a really good eye for such things, had never seen the The Stand, the first one. I had him watch is and pointed out the bad guy, saying, it's funny, I never saw that guy anywhere else. Shit, he said, Law and Order, that's Jamey Sheridan.

Ah, but Lenny. Adore.
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Also: "My fourth wife used to say I drink too much."
Maitre D': [referring to the victim and her husband] She gave him a big hug.
Lennie Briscoe: No kiss?
Maitre D': You married?
Lennie Briscoe: I've toyed with the notion.
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Old 01-16-2020, 10:31 AM
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I like seeing all the now-famous actors who show up in the early seasons...William H. Macy, Philip Seymour Huffman, James Earl Jones*, Allison Janney, Hayden Pannettiere, Amanda Seyfried...the list goes on and on.

Is it streaming anywhere? I've looked on Prime, Netflix, and Hulu and I can't seem to find it.

I gave up on SVU after Stabler left. He left a big hole.

*Well, JEJ was famous before L&O, but it was fun to see him pop up.
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Old 01-16-2020, 06:20 PM
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Is it streaming anywhere? I've looked on Prime, Netflix, and Hulu and I can't seem to find it.
Not yet but it looks like NBC's new streaming service is going to have it.
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My favorite Law & Order line, when the team was investigating the bombing of a women's health clinic:

Pro-Life Person: We favor birth. We think frozen embryos should be carried to term by volunteers and then put up for adoption.
Finn: A lot of gay men and lesbians will be glad to hear that.
P-L P: No, we only favor adoption to the right people.
Finn: Yeah. Straight, white, Christian couples
P-L P: Oh, we're not prejudiced. Christians come in all colors.
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Old 01-17-2020, 11:28 AM
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I'm finally getting around to watching the later seasons.

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Green: Piece of cake. We just look for a black guy and a white guy together in New York City.
Lupo: Well, there's us.
And later when they're tailing a suspect:
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Lupo: Look, One white guy, one black guy.
Green: And it's not us.
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Old 01-17-2020, 11:51 AM
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The cold open always seemed to feature someone walking somewhere in New York and stumbling on a dead body. And then when the person was being interviewed by the police, they'd continue to do their job (moving boxes, shelving books, whatever). At some point, they'd seem to get annoyed and ask, "Are we done? These flowers aren't going to arrange themselves." It gave the impression that New Yorkers were really blasť about dead bodies.
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I'm finally getting around to watching the later seasons.
I really enjoyed the later seasons when Dennis Farina played one of the detective Joe Fontana. I think he and Jerry Orbach (Lenny Briscoe) were my two favorite characters in the entire series.

It always seemed to me that Fontana was a highly unrealistic char who would have been fired within about ten seconds for appearing to have a huge fortune. The way he dressed and the car he drove both seemed to me to require a millionaire's budget. But the best thing about him - IMO - was his attitude. I loved watching him.
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I really enjoyed the later seasons when Dennis Farina played one of the detective Joe Fontana. I think he and Jerry Orbach (Lenny Briscoe) were my two favorite characters in the entire series.

It always seemed to me that Fontana was a highly unrealistic char who would have been fired within about ten seconds for appearing to have a huge fortune. The way he dressed and the car he drove both seemed to me to require a millionaire's budget. But the best thing about him - IMO - was his attitude. I loved watching him.
He was a Chicago PD cop for 18 years so I would guess he would know better than most what was realistic and what wasnt.
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Old 01-20-2020, 04:06 AM
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He was a Chicago PD cop for 18 years so I would guess he would know better than most what was realistic and what wasnt.
Heh Heh. I'm sure you are correct.

But I'm fairly certain he didn't make the decisions as to how the character would act or what characteristics he possessed. That sort of thing just isn't under the control of the actor.

Of course, I could be mistaken. I often am.
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Old 01-20-2020, 04:19 AM
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......It always seemed to me that Fontana was a highly unrealistic char who would have been fired within about ten seconds for appearing to have a huge fortune. The way he dressed and the car he drove both seemed to me to require a millionaire's budget. But the best thing about him - IMO - was his attitude. I loved watching him.
It seemed pretty clear the writers were trying to suggest Fontana was crooked, or had been crooked in the past. Such a backstory for a character could have been an interesting wrinkle. (Although a plot development like that would've fit better on SVU, where the characters' personal lives are explored more.) Alas, nothing ever came of it.
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It seemed pretty clear the writers were trying to suggest Fontana was crooked, or had been crooked in the past. Such a backstory for a character could have been an interesting wrinkle. (Although a plot development like that would've fit better on SVU, where the characters' personal lives are explored more.) Alas, nothing ever came of it.
I always thought the same thing. AAMOF, I thought the show just ran out of time before they revealed that about him.
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I used to love Law and Order, though my favorite era was when Briscoe and Logan were the two cops (which looks like seasons 3-5 according to the wiki list). What I always liked was that the show felt very real - while it was certianly written to be an interesting hour long TV show, they'd have to deal with things like having to get warrants, the trial not going according to plan, and the like. At the point I lost interest I remember feeling like they had started to go for more 'sensational' over 'realistic', but I also might just have lost interest over time since the show ran for so long. I was never a huge fan of the spinoffs. SVU seemed to ditch the realism and focus on sensationalism, and I don't really get Ice T as an actor. Criminal Intent also ditched the realistic format and was more of a showcase for the lead actor to perform, they were much bigger on doing psychological tricks to pull out the confession at the end which almost always wrapped up the case without a trial. I liked CI for a while, but not as much as the main series, and lost interest in it quicker.
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The cold open always seemed to feature someone walking somewhere in New York and stumbling on a dead body. And then when the person was being interviewed by the police, they'd continue to do their job (moving boxes, shelving books, whatever). At some point, they'd seem to get annoyed and ask, "Are we done? These flowers aren't going to arrange themselves." It gave the impression that New Yorkers were really blasť about dead bodies.
That always annoyed me about the show. Every.single.time. I mean, if I am in the garden and two detectives show up and tell me that the neighbor was sodomized with a baseball bat and murdered last night, then they have my full attention.

I will put down the gardening rake and weed killer and answer their questions without any distractions.

Further, I will give them the important details first and spare them any backstory, knowing that they are busy people. For example, I won't talk about how the neighbor was always such a nice guy who helped teach my special needs kid how to read last summer, but ohbytheway a strange white sedan was in his driveway last night and I heard screaming; do you think that might help?
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the only thing on TV more than L&O reruns are Mike Bloomberg ads.

I watch L&O SVU now and then , just started watching a few years back. I record every episode but I don't watch all of them.
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It seemed pretty clear the writers were trying to suggest Fontana was crooked, or had been crooked in the past. Such a backstory for a character could have been an interesting wrinkle. (Although a plot development like that would've fit better on SVU, where the characters' personal lives are explored more.) Alas, nothing ever came of it.
I remember reading somewhere that source of Fontana's wealth was that he was an heir of a "Chef Boyardee" fictional counterpart's fortune but I don't think they ever actually referenced that on a show.
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Darn it all! I just saw one episode that I'm fairly certain was one of the last few in Season 10 or one of the first few in Season 11. Lenny makes a remark that is just side-splitting funny but for some reason, I just can't remember what it is.

That is so unfortunate because I think it is head and shoulders above any other remark I've ever heard him make. I affirm it was the funniest thing he ever said and I am drawing a total blank. But I promise to track it down if I have to watch all of these episodes again and again.

I will get back to you all just as soon as I have a resolution.
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Darn it all! I just saw one episode that I'm fairly certain was one of the last few in Season 10 or one of the first few in Season 11. Lenny makes a remark that is just side-splitting funny but for some reason, I just can't remember what it is.
You might start with the quotes pages on IMDb. Here's the page for Stiff, the next-to-last episode of season 10; Lennie has a few good zingers in that one.
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OK. I found it! It's Season 11 Episode 2 - Turnstile Justice.

I don't know how many of you will remember this but in the late 1990's and early 2000's, Regis Philbin was hosting the TV show, "Who Wants to be a Millionaire?" and he would ask each contestant, "Is that your final answer?". It became very famous.

Well, in this epislode Lenny Briscoe and Ed Green have a mentally deranged black man in an interrogation room. This man does not want to give his name or allow them to take his fingerprints. But, A.D.A. Abbie Carmichael takes charge and tells the man she needs to know his name. He thinks for a sec and then replies, "Regis Philbin". There is a moment of silence and then Lennie asks, "Is that your final answer?"

I just about fell down laughing. IMHO, that is the funniest thing that Lennie has ever said. There are a few web sites that contain all of Lennie's humorous one-liners. Apparently, most of them were ad libs. But this one just hit me as the funniest of them all.

By the way, the latter part of Season 10 and the early part of Season 11 contain some of the very best episodes (IMO) of them all. For pure excellence in drama, I would like to recommend Season 10 Episode 18, "Mega". It stars Michael McKean and Annette O'toole and I don't think I've ever seen either of them turn in better dramatic performances. This episode had me hanging on to the edge of my seat right up to the very end where it ends in a real nail-biter surprise. This epsisode may well be my single favorite episode of the entire series.

If any of you take the time to view these two episodes, I hope you will enjoy them.

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https://youtu.be/F1sd4CRcaE0
Yeah, I had forgotten about the always being surprised thing, which adds to the feeling of "Ice-T's character is a rapper playing a cop who's completely new to the job".
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It seemed pretty clear the writers were trying to suggest Fontana was crooked, or had been crooked in the past. Such a backstory for a character could have been an interesting wrinkle. (Although a plot development like that would've fit better on SVU, where the characters' personal lives are explored more.) Alas, nothing ever came of it.
I disagree that Fontana was an unrealistic character. I fear he was far too realistic. He's a self-absorbed jerk, he tortured a confession out of a suspect and got away with it, he goes way over the legal line investigating. I'm sure he thinks there are "cops and little people", and only the former deserve respect. In other words, he'd fit right in the NYPD.

I hate every episode he's in, except the "JonBenet Ramsey" episode, where he incorrectly assumed the father was the killer and hounded him for years in his usual Fontana style. When they finally proved he didn't, Fontana went to ask forgiveness from the father, who basically told him to fuck off, and it hurt. Good day!

I wish they could have kept Falco and lost Fontana. Preferably in the east river.

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By the way, the latter part of Season 10 and the early part of Season 11 contain some of the very best episodes (IMO) of them all. For pure excellence in drama, I would like to recommend Season 10 Episode 18, "Mega". It stars Michael McKean and Annette O'toole and I don't think I've ever seen either of them turn in better dramatic performances. This episode had me hanging on to the edge of my seat right up to the very end where it ends in a real nail-biter surprise. This epsisode may well be my single favorite episode of the entire series.
They're married IRL, so that makes it even better.

The original L&O is my favorite. There was one episode where the son of a mobster is accused of murder, and his father, the kingpin, says that there's no way his son could have killed anyone. When asked why, his father says (quite matter-of-factly) "He doesn't have the authority." That just gave me chills.

Christine Baranski was also on an early episode, playing the sister of a Mafia don.
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I remember one episode in which Jack McCoy promised the suspect that he would receive immunity. (Saying something like, "I promise you that the Manhattan district attorney's office or the Office of the New York County District Attorney will not prosecute you.") After receiving a confession, McCoy stepped aside as the guy was arrested and charged by the Brooklyn district attorney.
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