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Old 01-15-2020, 03:54 PM
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Audio problems - Samsung smart TV, Marantz receiver, and certain online streaming services - Dolby +


I have a relatively new Samsung 4K HDTV. If it matters, the model is the UN55RU8000FXZA.

It's connected to a Marantz NR1403 receiver, which pushes sound through two Polk Monitor 65T floor speakers as well as a Polk center channel speaker. The TV is connected to the receiver using the ARC HDMI connector.

For the most part, this works just great, but every time I turn the TV on and fire up either Netflix or Amazon Prime Video, I get a horrible chattering sound, caused by the fact that the TV's audio settings have, mysteriously, changed themselves to Dolby Digital Plus.

When I go in and change the audio settings to PCM or regular Dolby Digital, the sound returns to normal, but this happens every time I turn the TV on, or every time I open up a new Netflix or Amazon show.

It doesn't happen when I watch regular TV, or the crappy Samsung TV channels that come with the TV, or when I watch an app like PBS. it's only with Netflix and Amazon Prime. In fact, if I'm in any of the other sources, and go to Audio settings, Dolby Digital Plus doesn't even appear as an option (only PCM and Dolby), and it is also greyed out in the Expert sound settings on the Samsung TV.

And it only happens when I'm sending sound through the receiver. If I turn the receiver off and just use the TV's own sound, there's no problem.

This isn't the end of the world, because the problem can be fixed every time by starting the show, pausing, and then adjusting the audio settings to regular Dolby Digital. But it's a real pain in the ass anyway, and I have no idea how to fix it. It seems like maybe a setting needs to be adjusted in the receiver itself, but I can't find anything that helps.

Any advice would be most welcome.
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Old 01-15-2020, 04:09 PM
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I know it seems counter-intuitive, but check through the settings on your receiver for something that would automatically switch to Dolby Plus* if it's available and try turning that off.

* Or even just "highest quality available," if not Dolby Plus by name.

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Old 01-15-2020, 08:48 PM
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Yeah, a process of elimination suggests that it's the receiver that's the problem here. Now I've got to try and work out how to adjust the settings.
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Old 01-15-2020, 09:23 PM
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Yeah, a process of elimination suggests that it's the receiver that's the problem here. Now I've got to try and work out how to adjust the settings.
I'm trying to follow along here; you think it's the receiver? It seems to me like it might be some "Smart" setting in the TV that defaults to the "best" audio option available. The streaming services offer Dolby+ so the TV defaults to that. Your other sources don't offer Dolby+ it sounds like, so they default to regular Dolby or PCM.

I have a feeling I'm somehow misunderstanding this horribly. But if, in some 5th dimensional dreamworld, my suspicion is on-track then I'd think you need to defeat the audio type being auto selected by the TV and set your preferred default setting manually.

Or something.


ETA-- Can the receiver change the TV's audio settings? That's not very polite. It would seem that only you could change those?

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Old 01-15-2020, 10:01 PM
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Yeah, that makes sense. The more I think about this the more confused I get.

What's worse is that it didn't happen at all for the first month or so that we had the TV. then it just started happening. Must have accidentally changed a setting somewhere.
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Old 01-16-2020, 01:27 AM
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A couple of troubleshooting questions.
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...but this happens every time I turn the TV on, or every time I open up a new Netflix or Amazon show.

It doesn't happen when I watch regular TV, or the crappy Samsung TV channels that come with the TV, or when I watch an app like PBS. it's only with Netflix and Amazon Prime.
You're giving conflicting statements. Does this happen every time you turn on the tv, i.e. regular cable/network channels, or only with Netflix or Amazon? Or any other source that offers DD+ for that matter.

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And it only happens when I'm sending sound through the receiver. If I turn the receiver off and just use the tv's own sound, there's no problem.
Are you sure you have ARC properly set up? If so, you won't be able to get audio from the tv with the receiver off.


Anyway, what it sounds like to me from the information so far is that the receiver is detecting the DD+ source and somehow changing the audio output format on your tv. The tv is passing through the signal as is but HDMI bandwidth is not allowing that over ARC and that's why you're getting the chattering noise. (I'm assuming your TV doesn't support eARC.)

My suggestion is to first go into your tv's Digital Output Audio Format and set it to PCM. Then go to your receiver settings and turn decode mode from auto to PCM. This should stop the tv's audio output format from being changed. Once this is settled, we can concentrate on how and why that setting is being changed automatically.
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First, I apologize for abandoning my own thread. It's been a busy week and I've had no time to even watch TV, let alone tinker with my devices.
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A couple of troubleshooting questions.

You're giving conflicting statements. Does this happen every time you turn on the tv, i.e. regular cable/network channels, or only with Netflix or Amazon? Or any other source that offers DD+ for that matter.
You're right, I was less than clear. It only happens when Netflix or Amazon are activated. If I turn the TV and go straight to a different service like Samsung TV or Sling, the sound is fine. If I then switch to Netflix or Amazon, the problem starts.
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Are you sure you have ARC properly set up? If so, you won't be able to get audio from the tv with the receiver off.
Hmm, maybe it's not set up right, then, because if the receiver is off, the sound just comes out of the TV.

I'm not much of an audio expert, and I guess I just figured that all I had to do was plug the HDMI cable into the ARC doohicky on the TV and everything would be fine. You're suggesting it's more complicated than that?
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Anyway, what it sounds like to me from the information so far is that the receiver is detecting the DD+ source and somehow changing the audio output format on your tv. The tv is passing through the signal as is but HDMI bandwidth is not allowing that over ARC and that's why you're getting the chattering noise. (I'm assuming your TV doesn't support eARC.)

My suggestion is to first go into your tv's Digital Output Audio Format and set it to PCM. Then go to your receiver settings and turn decode mode from auto to PCM. This should stop the tv's audio output format from being changed. Once this is settled, we can concentrate on how and why that setting is being changed automatically.
Thanks very much for the advice. I'm actually out of town for a few weeks right now, but when I get back home I'll look into it, including trying to read my receiver instruction manual more attentively.
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