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You do know that Patriots, Red Sox, Bruins, and Celtics fans are all pretty much the same people, don't you?
Well... not all of us. As a kid I grew up in Upstate NY and New England, and for some reason or other I was a Celtics fan (Havlicek, Cowens, Jo Jo, Nellie), but not a fan of Red Sox (Orioles, and Brooks for me), Pats (LA Rams), or Bruins (Rangers, then later Whalers).

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Sabres hire Ralph Krueger as coach!
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Krueger replaces Phil Housley , who was fired after just two seasons, including this past year when Buffalo won just 16 of its final 57 games following a 10-game winning streak in November.

In finishing 13th in the Eastern Conference standings, the Sabres joined the 2016-17 Philadelphia Flyers in becoming the second of 50 NHL teams to miss the playoffs in the same season they won at least 10 straight games.

The Sabres playoff drought stands as the NHL’s longest active streak.
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A person familiar with the decision told The Associated Press that the Sabres have hired Krueger as coach. The person spoke to the AP on Tuesday night on condition of anonymity because the team has not announced the hiring. Canada’s SportsNet.ca first reported the move.

The 59-year-old Krueger previously coached the Edmonton Oilers during the NHL’s lockout-shortened season in 2012-13. He was fired by the team via Skype after the youth-laden Oilers finished 19-22-7.

Krueger has vast coaching experience, including overseeing Switzerland’s national team to Winter Games appearances in 2002, 2006 and 2010.
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Just curious, what is about the Bruins that inspires your hate? I completely understand the Patriots and Red Sox hate, but I've always felt that the Bruins team and fans were much more grounded and blue collar. Is it the team (in particular Marchand who I'd hate if he were any team but my own) or the fans or the history?
Just a jealousy of all the success the teams have had. Sox 2018, Celtics 2008, Bruins 2011, Patriots string of wins.
Be nice if you could share the wealth, ya know!
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Just a jealousy of all the success the teams have had. Sox 2018, Celtics 2008, Bruins 2011, Patriots string of wins.
Be nice if you could share the wealth, ya know!
The Red Sox went 86 years between championships. Is that what you want?
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Hand pass? Looked like it to me, but I'm not a referee.

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Da'hell???? That was a hand pass!!! That was totally not legit!

I don't think there's much jealousy against the Patriots. We may have a rivalry there, but the Steelers were a winning franchinse long before they were, and we were the first to win 6 Lombardies.

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Just curious, what is about the Bruins that inspires your hate? I completely understand the Patriots and Red Sox hate, but I've always felt that the Bruins team and fans were much more grounded and blue collar. Is it the team (in particular Marchand who I'd hate if he were any team but my own) or the fans or the history?
Pittsburgh's had a minor rivalry with them, probably from the time they threw a hissyfit over us changing our colors, a few other things. To be fair, they have some things against us -- Matt Cooke's hit on Mark Savard. (Although we're pretty much even now I'd say, after Shawn Thornton's attack on Brooks Orpk)

I also don't like how their fans have cheered when players get injured, which has happened in the past.

It's not a HUGE one, like the ones we have with the Flyers, or the Capitals. And there are individual Bruins I like. But it's up there with New York, I'd say.



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The Sharks have gotten plenty screwed on shit like this in years past. I don't feel one but of "shame" accepting this win. We were the better team. The Blues were the better team in game 2, but not now.


Bring it.

I have to say that I'll be rooting hard for the Blues if they win this series. (But right now, let's 'get over the blues,' weaklings.)
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Hand pass? Looked like it to me, but I'm not a referee.
Looked that way to me too. But I’ll take it!

There were several missed calls earlier. That one was merely the last one.

But I’ll take it!

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Bring it.
Yes. Bring it!


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Great game, terrible ending. Blues got robbed. Oh well, four more games to play. Go Blues!
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Game 4 will be a tough one. Take it, Sharks!!
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Last night was a text book example of how to kill the hopes of the home crowd.
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Last night was a text book example of how to kill the hopes of the home crowd.
Not so sure about that. The Blues outskated the Sharks for much of the game. They can take solace in that and put it to use tomorrow night.
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He is not The Rat. Ken Linseman will always be The Rat.
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You do know that Patriots, Red Sox, Bruins, and Celtics fans are all pretty much the same people, don't you?
It gets a little fuzzy on the line from central Connecticut up the Berkshires and into Vermont, especially with the randomly-filled vacuum of the dear departed forever-five hundred Whalers. I'm sure there are guys in CT who are Patriots, Red Sox, Islanders and Celtics fans, and some who are Giants, Mets, Bruins and Knicks fans. And, strange as it seems to people who live in NY or BOS and think you need to define yourself to one or the other, I think there are some Vermonters who are Patriots, Yankees, and Bruins fans (I 'm not sure there actually are any basketball fans in VT); plus of course semi-Canadians who cheer for US football and baseball teams and Canadian hockey teams.


Anyway, the next NHL rules committee meetings are going to be fun, eh? Especially the guys who have to figure out how far back before a goal things can be reviewed.
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While I know it originated with Pat Verbeek, I will always think of Marchand as The Little Ball of Hate.
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See post #342.

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Marchand as The Little Ball of Hate.
More like The Weird Little Will-not of Licking Chippiness.

These conference finals will especially suck if one series is a sweep and the other goes seven, with Boston twiddling their thumbs and the other conference winner dog-tired and having to start the finals in two days's time. Nah, it wouldn't be "momentum" for them, and with the Bruins, it would be rest, not rust.


Rask for Conn Smythe?
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That Carolina logo is looking more and more like a big fat zero.
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Jim Hughson just brought up a interesting point threat never crossed my mind - legalize the hand pass. It's legal to do in your own zone, so why make it illegal elsewhere?
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Most hurricanes get downgraded to tropical storms by the time they reach New England.
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Man, the Bruins have entirely outplayed the Hurricanes. The whole series. Canes could not get any decent shots, outdefended, everything.
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Zing!

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Well, Carolina, welcome to the elite sweep-swept club!

Not sure this is the best outcome for the Bruins -- every team that has swept a round has lost in the next round. Maybe they just get fat, dumb, and happy while waiting for their opponent.
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From an interview Justin Williams gave after one of the earlier games, it sounded like the 'Canes started to believe the articles about how great they were just a little too much, and were not ready for the higher skill level of Boston, and the amazing performance of Tuukka Rask. Got to give the Hurricane fans credit -- at the very end, they applauded and cheered their team, giving them support even in defeat. That's got to help them next season.

I hope Boston does heal up the injuries, but not get lazy or complacent. I hope the final series will be great.
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My key worry about Boston's long time out is Tuukka; he's been so in the zone and hope he can somehow stay there for however long it takes for St. Louis to send SJS packing (I hope). I want to see if Terasenko can get a puck past Tuukka, as no one else seems to be able to. He was able to solve Bishop when no one else could.
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Agreed. He seems so level-headed and collected, though, I'm hoping he'll be okay. I hope he doesn't read or listen to any of the articles and commentary about him, either. It couldn't be anything but distracting.
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Yes all that time off could affect Tuuka’s timing and reactions. I doubt he’d listen to or read commentary.
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Wow, I missed it before, but I just saw that the NHL admitted that the Sharks's game winning goal should not have been allowed, and removed all four of those refs! Not much consolation for the Blues if they lose the series, but it must help fire them up for tonight.
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For those that missed the article:
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On Thursday, NHL Executive VP Colin Campbell joined Sportsnet's Hockey Central at Noon to discuss the unfortunate finish to Wednesday's game. He admitted the on-ice officials missed the call.
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"That was the wrong call," Campbell said. "It should've been a whistle if the referee had seen it live. Yes, you could probably use [Rule 38.4(ix)] but i think it has to be a discussion [before expanding use of that rule].

"It's so unfair that the game ended that way. The wrong way."

The rule Campbell referenced in his response is one that allows the NHL to provide assistance to officials in determining whether a goal should count based on the sequence of events prior to a potential goal being scored. Under the current guidelines, the league can provide further assistance in looking at whether a puck entered the net illegally (through the goal's meshing or underneath the net frame) or undetected by officials, as well as if a puck hit the spectator netting prior to directly entering the goal.
However, the rulebook doesn't currently allow for hand pass plays to go to video review unless the puck enters the net as a direct result of a hand pass (i.e. it is swatted directly into the net). As a result, the Blues had no way of challenging the goal on Wednesday night.
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The two referees responsible for calling the Eakin major were removed from playoff assignment following the massive blunder. On Thursday, it was reported that the NHL would also remove the four on-ice officials that missed the hand-pass in Game 3.
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Wow. But I agree. It was clearly a hand pass and that's how the Sharks scored that final goal.

But there were several missed calls earlier in the game, and one that was pretty pivotal -- the missed delay of game when the puck was hit by a STL player out of play.

Missed calls are part of the game. As a Sharks fan, I'll take it. The Logan Couture goalie interference in VGK game 2 was a bad call too.
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There were a number of bad and missed calls in Wednesday's game. Any one of them could have resulted in a different outcome of the game. That being said, if the Blues had bothered to score on our empty net, there wouldn't have been an OT goal to be disputed.

The Blues are definitely fired up...scored in the first 35 seconds.

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...And again 1:32 later.
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Good job, Blues!
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This series will be a dogfight.
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I'm not a fan of any of the teams left in the tournament but after seeing Boston sweep Carolina right out of the playoffs I'm convinced that the Boston Bruins are gonna be the next Stanley Cup champions. Sorry San Jose/St. Louis.
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Boston is going to be tough but they are going to have a 10 day break before the finals start. Now, some rest is good to help the sore players get a little better, but there is a lot to be said for being in that groove of playing every other day.
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Boston is going to be tough but they are going to have a 10 day break before the finals start. Now, some rest is good to help the sore players get a little better, but there is a lot to be said for being in that groove of playing every other day.
You make a good point but if Tuukka Rask stays "on point" in the Finals the way he was against Carolina then you might as well put Boston's name on the Stanley Cup right now.
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I had been half-jokingly telling people that they should spot the Blues a goal to start game 4, to make up for that missed call at the end of game 3. But a goal 35 seconds in was good enough for me.

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...And again 1:32 later.
Bo I don't know if you are talking about the same thing I thought I saw, but it definitely looked like something went in (or close to it) just a few minutes after the first goal. But there was no horn, none of the players reacted, none of the announcers said anything about it, so I figured I was just seeing things.
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You make a good point but if Tuukka Rask stays "on point" in the Finals the way he was against Carolina then you might as well put Boston's name on the Stanley Cup right now.
Yes Rask has been great, but he’s had to be great in part because of Boston’s defensive mistakes. The Bruins overall defense is reduced to one element: Rask. That’s not a good overall defensive strategy.
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I had been half-jokingly telling people that they should spot the Blues a goal to start game 4, to make up for that missed call at the end of game 3. But a goal 35 seconds in was good enough for me.



Bo I don't know if you are talking about the same thing I thought I saw, but it definitely looked like something went in (or close to it) just a few minutes after the first goal. But there was no horn, none of the players reacted, none of the announcers said anything about it, so I figured I was just seeing things.
Nope just got bad info... I was told St. Louis scored with 17:53 left not that they scored at 17:53.

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Yes Rask has been great, but he’s had to be great in part because of Boston’s defensive mistakes. The Bruins overall defense is reduced to one element: Rask. That’s not a good overall defensive strategy.
And an injured Chara certainly hasn't helped. He's actually looked quite shaky at points.
Useless 42 year-old .
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Yes Rask has been great, but he’s had to be great in part because of Boston’s defensive mistakes. The Bruins overall defense is reduced to one element: Rask. That’s not a good overall defensive strategy.
I heard during Game 4 of BOS - CAR that Boston (or, at least, "the Boston area") is trying for something that hasn't happened since the 1930s: one city laying claim to three pro championships at once (back then it was Detroit with the Tigers, Lions, and Red Wings). So I just feel that the Bruins are going to get that done (remember: I'm NOT a Boston Bruins fan). We'll see.
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Boston was hoping for four before the Bucks gored the Celtics.

The Blues scored first in San Jose!
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I saw this quote right before the game started today:
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Nah; we're not having any of that today, thanks.
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I heard during Game 4 of BOS - CAR that Boston (or, at least, "the Boston area") is trying for something that hasn't happened since the 1930s: one city laying claim to three pro championships at once (back then it was Detroit with the Tigers, Lions, and Red Wings). So I just feel that the Bruins are going to get that done (remember: I'm NOT a Boston Bruins fan). We'll see.
In 1980 Philly played in the finals for all four championships. but only won one.
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In 1980 Philly played in the finals for all four championships. but only won one.
Okay. The "Iggles" lost to Oakland. The Raiders were very motivated to win that S.B. and I'm not sure the "Iggles" were; I think maybe knocking the Cowboys off in the N.F.C. title game took something out of them. The 76ers got beat by a budding dynasty (and rookie sensation) and the Flyers also lost to a budding dynasty. I'm not sure that either San Jose or St. Louis are in that category but we'll see!
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These guys are so tired, I thought they'd have to take the Sharks out on stretchers. The Blues are hardly excited for their victory. I think they all just want to go to bed and sleep.
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