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Old 03-13-2019, 03:43 PM
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People in TV/Movies/Books/etc who were bad at their jobs. (Spoilers)


And I don't mean "comically bad" (Barney Fife) or "used as a gag" bad (Ron Swanson/George Constanza), but people who were just inept at their jobs.

(Spoiler boxes on relatively recent works, please. Say... 5 years?)

To me, even though he isn't portrayed as particularly horrible at his work, a quality candidate is FBI Agent Stan Beeman of The Americans. His friends and across-the-street-neighbors do the following to Stan (and Stan's relatives/friends/workmates) the following:

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1. Setup Stan's boss
2. Setup Stan's bosses secretary
3. Bug the mail robot
4. Kill a metric-shitload of people in and around DC
5. Thwart Stan's (and the FBI's) plans on a number of occasions
6. Faked a friendship so they could keep closer tabs on Stan
7. Not to mention a whole bunch of espionage crap that they pulled


... and a whole bunch of other shit which I can't remember. And then, at the very end of the show

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Stan let's them go because he's got a man-crush on Matthew Rhys's puppy-dog eyes and Matthew says "I think you were my only friend in this crazy world" (or something sappy like that). Then Matthew gets one final cruel blow into poor Stan when he says that Stan's current squeeze might also be a spy. "Oops, sorry for dropping that bomb on ya, gotta go! See me in Moscow!"


The series ends... at least Stan's part of it... with Stan looking across the street with the FBI clearing out the Jennings house facing a future of whispers "Man, these spies lived across the street from Beeman and he didn't notice shit!" "Yeah, well, you notice he hasn't been promoted in 6 years, right? Wonder why he's still hanging on? Guess he needs that pension" :cue laughter:

Well, it didn't really end with the comments, but that's the future Stan Beeman faces. Because he sucked at his job. Hell, the only thing he was good at was acting like a White Supremacist.

Anyway, who else is bad at their job?

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Old 03-13-2019, 11:47 PM
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I'll vote for Jax Teller from "Sons of Anarchy". Supposedly he has some amazing new vision for the motorcycle gang, but all he ever does is make terrible decisions that antagonize other gangs.

The internal affairs agent Kavanaugh (played by Forest Whitaker) from "The Shield" does a pretty spectacularly bad job at catching Vic Mackey, too.
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Old 03-14-2019, 10:23 AM
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Tuvok from Star Trek: Voyager
He was head of security but it seems every episode someone either got on or off the ship breaching his "security protocols".
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Old 03-14-2019, 10:24 AM
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I'm not sure anyone can top ol' Stan. That last episode really pissed me off.

Maybe last season Michael Westen? Somehow in attempting to infiltrate and undermine an international criminal, he ends up doing exactly what the evil mastermind wants. Plus he gets his mom killed. And his easlier reinstatement to the CIA where he murders his (corrupt) boss and doesn't get away with it. And aiding Ansen and wiping his presence from the CIA records. That could have gone better. Those later seasons doesn't exist for me.
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The entire prison staff from Oz. I mean really, there's a murder or three practically every episode...
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Old 03-14-2019, 01:57 PM
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Tuvok from Star Trek: Voyager
He was head of security but it seems every episode someone either got on or off the ship breaching his "security protocols".
For that matter, Worf on Star Trek: The Next Generation. Second-strongest being on the ship (behind Data), tons of training in armed and unarmed combat, and yet, it seemed like he regularly got his clock cleaned when the fighting started.
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Davey Deals from Pawn Stars. He is a motorcycle dealer who has had to pawn unsold motorcycles in order to make payroll. Sounds to me like he's pretty bad at his job.
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Hamilton Burger prosecuted cases in 225 episodes. He won twice.

Presumably he then won the cases against the real killer but thatís still a pretty bad average.
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Old 03-15-2019, 04:51 AM
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Hamilton Burger prosecuted cases in 225 episodes. He won twice.

Presumably he then won the cases against the real killer but thatís still a pretty bad average.
Did the lawyer character played by Jimmy Smits in L.A. Law ever win a case?
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Davey Deals from Pawn Stars. He is a motorcycle dealer who has had to pawn unsold motorcycles in order to make payroll. Sounds to me like he's pretty bad at his job.
If we're doing reality shows, I'd have to go with the brother from Property Brothers who does the renovation work. Seems like every episode they run into some unanticipated problem, like mold in the ceiling or termites in the floor beams or ductwork or wiring that's in an inconvenient unexpected place that they have work around or reroute. The kind of stuff that seems like it should be obvious on the initial inspection, especially if you are experienced at this kind of thing.

I realize that a lot of it is manufactured drama -- who wants to watch a renovation show where everything is on time and not in danger of blowing the client's budget? But it sure does make them look like incompetent boobs.
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An honest reading of the Harry Potter books shows that Dumbledore is, at best, massively incompetent, if not actually malevolent. Exploration of this fact is a major source of HP fan fiction.
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Old 03-15-2019, 08:26 AM
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Anybody remember the ill-fated movie from a couple of years ago with Michael Fassbender, The Snowman?

The character Fassbender plays, Harry Hole, is the star of a series of Norwegian mystery books. I read the first one, The Bat.

Harry Hole was so infuriatingly lousy at his job, i still wonder if he was written like that on purpose. He basically went to Australia after a Norwegian girl was killed there. And then devoted his time to half-heartedly rethread the police investigation by the Aussie police, drink a lot and shag a waitress he meets. He literally offers nothing new to the investigation, causes the death of a main character (don't want to spoil it all) by his uselessness and everything is solved pretty much by sheer luck.

There's a moment in the book where Harry gets himself in a bar fight and that made me think: "Well, he's not a hard-worker, he's not that smart or good at dealing with people... but he's a protagonist. Maybe he'll prove that at least he's a bad ass now" Nope, he folds like a chump and ends up being rescued by an Australian cop.

Maybe he improves in the subsequent books. I didn't feel like finding out.
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Old 03-15-2019, 08:58 AM
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In the books by Ian Fleming, James Bond comes across as incredibly incompetent. He habitually blows his cover, gets the stuffing beaten out of him, lets or causes his partners to be killed, and is captured and tortured. Nor is he an expert skier, diver, or anything else, other than a gourmand and oenophile.

Come to think of it, a lot of the same stuff happens to him in the movies, too. He usually accomplishes his mission more through dumb luck and assistance from a hot babe.
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An honest reading of the Harry Potter books shows that Dumbledore is, at best, massively incompetent, if not actually malevolent. Exploration of this fact is a major source of HP fan fiction.
I listen to a podcast called "Harry Potter and the Sacred Text," where two Harvard Divinity students discuss the series through the lens of philosophy and religion. One of their running gags is that someday they will write a book called "The Failed Pedagogy of Hogwarts."

It ain't just Dumbledore. With the possible exception of McGonagall, nobody at that school ought to be teaching children.
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Old 03-15-2019, 09:27 AM
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Ted Danson's role on The Good Place might be a "running gag" (is TGP a comedy?), but season 2 showed that he was quite inept at his job, being a Bad Place architect.
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Mad About You's Ursula was a horrible waitress.
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Old 03-15-2019, 10:11 AM
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Mad About You's Ursula was a horrible waitress.
Maybe you didn't read the first sentence of the OP ...
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I think the official police detectives, sheriffs, etc. in shows about private investigators tend to be incompetent. Sheriff Amos Tupper from Murder She Wrote and Lassiter from Psych are the first that come to mind, but it seems like the police are always portrayed as incompetent when compared to the amateur sleuth or private investigator.

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There's a lot of people on The Office that either straight up bad (Andy) or seem like they're bad but actually quite good (Dwight, Michael). But they don't fit the OP. Instead, the one that really fits is the one straight character who is portrayed as being good at their job, but if take a real look you realize is quite bad:

Chief Financial Officer David Wallace

Let's look at what he did:
- Was way too involved in daily operations for a CFO
- Had to shut down multiple branch offices
- Nearly shutdown their most profitable branch - Scranton
- Either failed to notice or chose to ignore Ryan's blatant fraud
- Also didn't catch Kevin's fraud and possible insider trading
- Did nothing to stop the Scranton branch being gutted by a three person start-up
- Oh and then Dunder Mifflin nearly goes bankrupt.
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Old 03-15-2019, 01:28 PM
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If we're doing reality shows, I'd have to go with the brother from Property Brothers who does the renovation work. Seems like every episode they run into some unanticipated problem, like mold in the ceiling or termites in the floor beams or ductwork or wiring that's in an inconvenient unexpected place that they have work around or reroute. The kind of stuff that seems like it should be obvious on the initial inspection, especially if you are experienced at this kind of thing.

I realize that a lot of it is manufactured drama -- who wants to watch a renovation show where everything is on time and not in danger of blowing the client's budget? But it sure does make them look like incompetent boobs.
Has any "expert" on any remodeling show been able to figure out a wall is load bearing before they start tearing it down? Every time the designer says to take a wall out you can be that it's a load bearing wall that won't be discovered until it is too late.
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The 1991 film acting debut of Brian Bosworth "Stone Cold" was an action vehicle where Bosworth played an undercover FBI agent tasked with infiltrating a white supremacist biker gang who plan on killing the Governor of Alabama (I think that's the state) after the Governor makes giving the death penalty to one of its arrested members his reelection platform to show off his "Tough on Crime/Against White Supremacy" ideas.

The ending is pretty horrific despite the fact the film treats it as a happy ending

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Bosworth stupidly meets with his FBI handler in broad daylight in a public street. This sets off a chain of events where he's uncovered and imprisoned by the gang as they plan to kill the governor and rescue their incarcerated friend during his trial at the State Supreme Court.

The gang infiltrates the court house and not only do they kill the Governor, they also kill all of the Alabama Supreme Court, dozens of cops and innocent civilians, and wreck most of the court house. The only thing Bosworth actually does is kill the prisoner before he's set free but it's pretty obvious considering the security around the court house they weren't getting out alive anyway.

So Bosworth leaves the court house to triumphant music despite the fact the gang despite all being killed has basically done everything they had originally set out to do by murdering most of the Alabama politicians against them.
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Has any "expert" on any remodeling show been able to figure out a wall is load bearing before they start tearing it down? Every time the designer says to take a wall out you can be that it's a load bearing wall that won't be discovered until it is too late.
Exactly. I wind up watching a *lot* of "house porn" by osmosis (it's comfort-food TV for my wife), and I've realized that so much of that sort of thing is manufactured drama.

There was one show she was watching, a few weeks ago, where the "OMG moment" was a large, newly-installed window falling out of its frame and shattering. The camera "managed" to catch a shot of the window falling -- and you could actually see someone's hand at the top of the screen, pushing the window free from the frame.
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The incompetent police inspector dates back to the earliest detective stories. Inspector Lestrade in the Sherlock Holmes stories is always baffled.

In reality shows, the guy in Love it or List It nearly always fails to sell the new house. My wife has watched more of them and says it does happen, but it's been rare that I've seen the couple go with him.

In the biopic Chaplin, Charlie's brother Sydney keeps showing up solely to be wrong about something.
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Oh, and what about Dexter Morgan, from "Dexter"?

Sure, he was my pick for the thread about which detective we would like to solve our murder, but as a Crime Investigation lab technician he was the worst. He actively derailed investigations, withheld information and even sometimes protected serial killers because he wanted them for himself, with complete disregard for all the victims the killers caused while he took his time getting to the finale.
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Anybody remember the ill-fated movie from a couple of years ago with Michael Fassbender, The Snowman?

The character Fassbender plays, Harry Hole, is the star of a series of Norwegian mystery books. I read the first one, The Bat.

Harry Hole was so infuriatingly lousy at his job, i still wonder if he was written like that on purpose. He basically went to Australia after a Norwegian girl was killed there. And then devoted his time to half-heartedly rethread the police investigation by the Aussie police, drink a lot and shag a waitress he meets. He literally offers nothing new to the investigation, causes the death of a main character (don't want to spoil it all) by his uselessness and everything is solved pretty much by sheer luck.

There's a moment in the book where Harry gets himself in a bar fight and that made me think: "Well, he's not a hard-worker, he's not that smart or good at dealing with people... but he's a protagonist. Maybe he'll prove that at least he's a bad ass now" Nope, he folds like a chump and ends up being rescued by an Australian cop.

Maybe he improves in the subsequent books. I didn't feel like finding out.
Harry Hole? Forgive my juvenile, Beavis & Butthead like interruption but I trie so hard to suppress my laughter, things came out of my nose.
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Old 03-15-2019, 02:39 PM
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Harry Hole? Forgive my juvenile, Beavis & Butthead like interruption but I trie so hard to suppress my laughter, things came out of my nose.
I had the same reaction! I think that name belongs in the MPSIMS thread, "Are there any young Dicks anymore?"
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I think the official police detectives, sheriffs, etc. in shows about private investigators tend to be incompetent. Sheriff Amos Tupper from Murder She Wrote and Lassiter from Psych are the first that come to mind, but it seems like the police are always portrayed as incompetent when compared to the amateur sleuth or private investigator.
And Inspector Lestrade.

That's why I like the Nero Wolfe mysteries. Inspector Cramer is very competent, and Wolfe admits it. Wolfe even says Cramer is better at solving nine out of ten murders, and Cramer even has his own book. They are worthy opponents/friends.

But of course Jessica Fletcher was a serial killer who framed innocent victims, so she could continue her spree. I mean, 250 or so murders over 12 years in a small town in Maine?
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In reality shows, the guy in Love it or List It nearly always fails to sell the new house. My wife has watched more of them and says it does happen, but it's been rare that I've seen the couple go with him.
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I think he wins about one time in four, but the couple is always dazzled by her fabu staging, which wont last one day after they move back in. And of course 'the memories'!
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For the "Breaking Bad" fans, look up the 2018 San Diego Comic Con "Breaking Bad anniversary panel".

Someone asks the question about Skylar learning about Walter's "side business", and the producer explains that after the first season they realized the character and actress were just "too smart" for Walter to be able to keep it a secret...
Then the actor who played Hank chimes in: "well what does that say about me ???!!!"
It's really funny.

But Hank, a DEA agent, doesn't figure out his brother-in-law is a major drug kingpin for like 5 seasons !
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Tarek El Moussa from Flip or Flop

Has any house cost him less than 70% more than he planned. And when he bought that pristine house that got trashed over the weekend ... if it was real then why not have insurance that covers that?
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Hank Schrader is a good answer. And I kinda agree re: Skylar - it would have been unbelievable that her husband goes from teacher to meth kingpin in a year without her noticing.

Have we ever seen C3PO at work? He has facility in 6 million languages or whatever, and all he does is speak English... even to R2D2. Never once did he suggest "Hey... Im going to go over there and stand within earshot of those Baldersnatchi and listen to what they are saying. I'll report back later." A perfect spy, just send him into a party with 56 species and languages, and, later, have him spill and translate everything he heard. He's a fuckin' computer and audio files aren't that big!

But, no, he's just acts like he's being paid to be comedy relief for some invisible audience or something.

R2, however, can repair shit without even having arms. Nothing but respect for R2's skills.

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The central events of Raiders of the Lost Ark would have played out pretty much the same with or without Indiana Jones. He looked awesome while accomplishing none of his objectives, other than winding up with Marian.

The Chazz Palmentieri character in The Usual Suspects put together the world's worst lineup then let a criminal mastermind slip through his fingers.

Mr. Orange in Reservoir Dogs let himself develop an emotional bond with one of the criminals he was trying to take down, then shot a civilian. I'm pretty sure they train undercover cops to avoid both those things. And, for that matter, what the hell kind of police department waits to move on the criminals until they're in the middle of the daring midday robbery? Shut them down before they actually start pulling off the job, guys!

In Magnolia, the John C. Reilly character admits he's a pretty inept cop. He's a little hard on himself, but losing your gun is still a big no-no.

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The central events of Raiders of the Lost Ark would have played out pretty much the same with or without Indiana Jones. He looked awesome while accomplishing none of his objectives, other than winding up with Marian.
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They would never have found the Ark.


And, who knows, without all the pressure to act NOW, maybe they would have not opened the Ark without precautions.
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Andy Travis, the program director on "WKRP". What other large market commercial station of the past 40 years
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None of course. Not only does it confuse listeners, but it makes it impossible to sell to advertisers. And that doesn't even factor in keeping an awful salesman and newsman.
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Anybody remember the ill-fated movie from a couple of years ago with Michael Fassbender, The Snowman?

The character Fassbender plays, Harry Hole, is the star of a series of Norwegian mystery books. I read the first one, The Bat.

Harry Hole was so infuriatingly lousy at his job, i still wonder if he was written like that on purpose. He basically went to Australia after a Norwegian girl was killed there. And then devoted his time to half-heartedly rethread the police investigation by the Aussie police, drink a lot and shag a waitress he meets. He literally offers nothing new to the investigation, causes the death of a main character (don't want to spoil it all) by his uselessness and everything is solved pretty much by sheer luck.

There's a moment in the book where Harry gets himself in a bar fight and that made me think: "Well, he's not a hard-worker, he's not that smart or good at dealing with people... but he's a protagonist. Maybe he'll prove that at least he's a bad ass now" Nope, he folds like a chump and ends up being rescued by an Australian cop.

Maybe he improves in the subsequent books. I didn't feel like finding out.
The Bat was a first novel and your criticism is valid. The second one isn't all that great either, but from then on Jo Nesbo serves up an excellent detective series. Highly recommended. If you like Bosch and Rebus, you'll enjoy Harry Hole.

Btw, it's Norwegian so 'Hole' is pronounced 'hoo-leh' or something like that. For the full tee-hee, at some point in the series he becomes Inspector Harry Hole.

The Snowman was a trainwreck film made from a terrific book. Headhunters is a much better adaptation of a Nesbo novel.

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In regards to Andy Travis, many the commercial stations in San Antonio switch to 1 hour of "community service" radio - some stations have people talking about charities, some have church, etc. at 6am Sunday morning. At 7am, they go back to their regular programming.

So, while played for laughs on WKRP, the "religious segment on a pop station" is a real thing.
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The central events of Raiders of the Lost Ark would have played out pretty much the same with or without Indiana Jones. He looked awesome while accomplishing none of his objectives, other than winding up with Marian.
I don't understand where the whole "Didn't accomplish his objectives" thing comes from. Army Intelligence clearly told him to recover the Ark so the Nazi's don't get their hands on it, and the final scene of the movie is the Ark safely in American hands. Indy's sole job was to make sure the Nazi's couldn't use it and he made sure of it. His thoughts of putting it in a museum are entirely secondary to his hired goal of recovering it.

In addition he does multiple things that affect the course of the story

1. Saves Marion's life in the bar and prevents the Nazis initially from getting the location of the ark.
2. Destroys the flying wing the Nazi's were going to use to fly the Ark directly to Berlin forcing them to waste time finding an alternate transport route which leads to them having to make a pit stop at a submarine base.
3. Is there for the unveiling thus he's able to afterwards contact friendlies and have them grab the Ark.

If he didn't do any of those things the movie ends with the Nazi's now in possession of the ark and they have plenty of forced test subjects they could use to figure out how it works.
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I once worked with a guy named Harry Bone. I kid you not.
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Gus Grimly in the first season of Fargo is completely inept. He lets Malvo get away when it's clear this is a bad guy up to no good. He tried to make things right then accidentally shot Deputy Molly. Finally, he even admitted to her that he only became a cop because the post office wasn't hiring. Luckily for him, he was able to redeem himself but he's an excellent example of someone pursuing a career that is not for them.
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I just watched the British detective series Broadchurch, and those motherfuckers were incompetent as fuck.
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On "Buffy the Vampire Slayer", Sunnydale HS Principal Snyder correctly stated, "The Sunnydale Police are deeply stupid."

As are the Gotham City PD in every incarnation of Batman, obviously.
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I don't understand where the whole "Didn't accomplish his objectives" thing comes from. Army Intelligence clearly told him to recover the Ark so the Nazi's don't get their hands on it, and the final scene of the movie is the Ark safely in American hands. Indy's sole job was to make sure the Nazi's couldn't use it and he made sure of it. His thoughts of putting it in a museum are entirely secondary to his hired goal of recovering it.

In addition he does multiple things that affect the course of the story

1. Saves Marion's life in the bar and prevents the Nazis initially from getting the location of the ark.
2. Destroys the flying wing the Nazi's were going to use to fly the Ark directly to Berlin forcing them to waste time finding an alternate transport route which leads to them having to make a pit stop at a submarine base.
3. Is there for the unveiling thus he's able to afterwards contact friendlies and have them grab the Ark.

If he didn't do any of those things the movie ends with the Nazi's now in possession of the ark and they have plenty of forced test subjects they could use to figure out how it works.
If Indy hadn't gotten involved, Marian would probably have wound up dead, the Nazis would have found the ark, taken it directly to Hitler and opened it in front of him, killing him and ending WWII before it really got started.
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I don't understand where the whole "Didn't accomplish his objectives" thing comes from. ...
If he didn't do any of those things the movie ends with the Nazi's now in possession of the ark and they have plenty of forced test subjects they could use to figure out how it works.
Sometimes some writer starts a meme, like "why didnt the eagles just drop the Ring into Mt Doom?" and "Indy didnt really do anything". They are usually wrong.
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If Indy hadn't gotten involved, Marian would probably have wound up dead, the Nazis would have found the ark, taken it directly to Hitler and opened it in front of him, killing him and ending WWII before it really got started.
Or they would have finished their research, and found out how to open it safely.
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If Indy hadn't gotten involved, Marian would probably have wound up dead, the Nazis would have found the ark, taken it directly to Hitler and opened it in front of him, killing him and ending WWII before it really got started.
Belloq did what he always intended to do, open it himself. He was never going to send it to Hitler first.
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Sometimes some writer starts a meme, like "why didnt the eagles just drop the Ring into Mt Doom?" and "Indy didnt really do anything". They are usually wrong.
Like "Luke didn't do anything" in ROTJ? I guess if Luke hadn't given himself up, Vader would have just shown up where ever Luke was going to. Assuming Vader hasn't been emasculated by the Emperor. My impression of their relationship in ROTJ is that Vader has been put in the doghouse.
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I once worked with a guy named Harry Bone. I kid you not.
Found out a about a guy named Shelley Nutt the other day. He got married and took his husbands name of Hunt. Yes....he's now Shelley Nutt-Hunt.
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On "Buffy the Vampire Slayer", Sunnydale HS Principal Snyder correctly stated, "The Sunnydale Police are deeply stupid."

As are the Gotham City PD in every incarnation of Batman, obviously.
A lot of people make fun of the Gotham P.D, but the people in charge of security at Arkham and the Gotham City jail must truly be incompetent.

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Andy Travis, the program director on "WKRP". What other large market commercial station of the past 40 years
--lets their DJs play their own music?
--can depending on the day or shift sound top 40, then AOR, then oldies, then R&B?
--airs pay for play religion on Sunday mornings?
None of course. Not only does it confuse listeners, but it makes it impossible to sell to advertisers. And that doesn't even factor in keeping an awful salesman and newsman.
Washington, DC's WHFS hit most of those metrics in the 60s and 70s. They were quite a tonic for all the stations that had playlists in the upper single/lower double digit ranges. And while they eventually settled on an alternative rock identity in the 80s (and had handshake deals with a bunch of fringe bands that went on to be commercially huge in the 90s), they still had a blues show well into the 1990s. The station and format died spectacularly about 15 years ago when new owners gutted it and turned into "EL ZOL," a Spanish language station, but HFS was contemporary with both versions of WKRP.

(I forget whether they aired pay-for-play religious content on Sundays, but that was certainly done on some Washington area stations.)
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