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Old 12-27-2018, 10:08 AM
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When I'm 64, and other reminders that you are old.

I remember when the Beatles first arrive, and I remember hearing this song for the first time and thinking "64 is old!" Well, on December 25th I made it. I am now 64 years old, the subject of a Beatles song.

So let's list some things that prove you are chronologically old:

You remember when rock music was considered a fad that would fade in a couple of years.

You remember hippies and the whole 1960's bit.

You remember when people only had land line telephones, and if you called them and got a busy signal, you had to call them back.

You remember when grown up people were referred to as "girls and boys." But only certain grown up people (women and coloreds). Hell, you remember when calling a person "black" was considered derogatory, but using the N-word wasn't.

Add some more, please.
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Old 12-27-2018, 10:25 AM
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You do remember where you were when Kennedy was shot. You don't remember where you parked your car.

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Old 12-27-2018, 10:31 AM
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I hate (almost) all music everyone is listening to.

I go to be early and get up before dawn.

Dinner must begin before 7:00 pm, and can be as early as 5:40

I go to more funerals than weddings.
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Old 12-29-2018, 04:19 AM
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I hate (almost) all music everyone is listening to.

I go to be early and get up before dawn.

Dinner must begin before 7:00 pm, and can be as early as 5:40

I go to more funerals than weddings.
Check.

Check.

Check.

Not quite there yet, phew.

I was thinking recently of my first year of University and realized that it was 26 years ago. OK, no real surprise here, just add 1 with every year that passes. But I started thinking : I was 18 then. I'm 44 now. When the same amount of time elapses, I'll be 70 .

Also, while looking at some almost-30-year-old pictures, I realized that not only I remembered that particular day very well but, more disturbingly, my father was younger then than I am now. In my mind, he is still in his 40s. In reality, he turned 72 last month and, to be honest, his age is starting to show.
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Old 12-29-2018, 01:27 PM
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Check.

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I was thinking recently of my first year of University and realized that it was 26 years ago. OK, no real surprise here, just add 1 with every year that passes. But I started thinking : I was 18 then. I'm 44 now. When the same amount of time elapses, I'll be 70 .

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I some times think about the old training ship, TS Golden Bear, when I was attending the Maritime Academy. It has been replaced twice and they are now in need of replacing the Third Golden Bear.
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You remember the incredible popularity of folk music in the early 1960's, and it wasn't considered mainstream. And the young singer/songwriter who came out of that movement that was considered a "talentless hack." Of course, that fellow now has a Nobel prize in literature.
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Old 12-27-2018, 10:58 AM
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Last week the eight-year old son of a friend objected when someone referred to his tablet as a computer. He insisted a computer had to have a keyboard and a mouse.

I said that a computer was something that filled an entire room and used punch cards and a CRT screen with green letters.

For analyzing the data on my thesis in the late 1970s, I had to lug all the many boxes of punch cards over to the computer center on campus. To do the analysis, the techs in the back room had to mount tapes.
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Old 12-27-2018, 10:57 AM
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The hilarity of a co-worker and I talking about our prostates. Never thought I would catch myself doing anything like that.
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Old 12-27-2018, 10:57 AM
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At 47, I'm in that weird "not quite old, but no longer young" area. Middle-aged is a good term. Anyway, a constant reminder of the "no longer young" part is that these days my youngest co-workers have parents my age.

whippersnappers!

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You remember when people only had land line telephones, and if you called them and got a busy signal, you had to call them back.
I clearly remember a time before call waiting, etc. If the person wasn't home you could often leave a message (on an analog recorder; some folks didn't have "a machine" yet), but if you got a busy signal there was nothing to do except try again later.
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Old 12-27-2018, 11:34 AM
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At 47, I'm in that weird "not quite old, but no longer young" area. Middle-aged is a good term. Anyway, a constant reminder of the "no longer young" part is that these days my youngest co-workers have parents my age.

whippersnappers!

I clearly remember a time before call waiting, etc. If the person wasn't home you could often leave a message (on an analog recorder; some folks didn't have "a machine" yet), but if you got a busy signal there was nothing to do except try again later.
I remember having a speaker phone. If you called someone and it was busy, you could program the phone to keep calling back every 5 minutes until you got an answer.

I remember thinking it was so high-tech at the time.
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Old 12-28-2018, 10:28 AM
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At 47, I'm in that weird "not quite old, but no longer young" area. Middle-aged is a good term.
Sounds like you're a prime candidate to appreciate Suzi Quatro's 48 Crash.
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When I was informed by a young person that they had "studied Woodstock in history class."
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You remember hippies and the whole 1960's bit.
Heck, I remember when beatniks were the great threat to our nation. And when Davy Crockett caps and hula hoops were the biggest thing.
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Old 12-27-2018, 11:10 AM
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I remember watching Eisenhower's first inauguration on my grandfather's 12 in. television set.

I remember the St. Louis Browns moving to Baltimore to become the Baltimore Orioles.

I remember a fantastic new show that came on television called, "The Adventures of Superman."

etc. etc.
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Old 12-27-2018, 11:07 AM
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My mom told how, when she first got to really know her mother as a person, rather than just as "Mum", was when she was in college, and Grandma was "about 40". So she went through life thinking of Grandma's age as "about 40". So it really hit her hard when she herself turned 40, because "my God, I'm as old as my mother".

Of course, now, her two children are both "as old as her mother".

And one that struck me a few years back: When I was a kid in the 80s, "oldies" meant music from the 50s and 60s. Music nowadays that's that same age is from the 80s and 90s.
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Old 12-27-2018, 11:09 AM
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I now have a co-worker who wasn't born yet when I started working in libraries. And not by a few months, either.

I've now had a beard and lived in North Carolina for more than half my life.

This week my car turns 20.
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Old 12-27-2018, 11:13 AM
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I’m 57 (and a half!) and on my way to 64. My boss, the young whipper-snapper, he just turned 40.
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Old 12-27-2018, 11:18 AM
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Telling a college student who is gushing about Bohemian Rhapsody "They really blew me away when I saw them at Live Aid," and see her appear to calculate in her head: "She saw Live Aid? Live?" It's longer ago for her, now, than Woodstock was for me then.

Seeing Sean Lennon on SNL and realizing he's older now than his father got to be.
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I've recently been re-watching Mad Men. It occurred to me that, for kids who are now the same age as I was during the Sixties, those events are as remote in time as WWI was for me at that age (both about 50 years or more in the past).

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I've recently been re-watching Mad Men. It occurred to me that, for kids who are now the same age as I was during the Sixties, those events are as remote in time as WWI was for me at that age (both about 50 years or more in the past).
When I was born, the Civil War was not quite as far in the past as WW I is for a child born today. And I watched the first Moon landing with a man who remembered a time before airplanes (my grandfather).
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And I watched the first Moon landing with a man who remembered a time before airplanes (my grandfather).
My grandmother excitedly watched the first Moon landing. She would have been in her mid-teens when the Wright brothers made their flight at Kitty Hawk. She was very impressed by Apollo 11.
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When I was born, the Civil War was not quite as far in the past as WW I is for a child born today. And I watched the first Moon landing with a man who remembered a time before airplanes (my grandfather).
When I was younger I knew some older men who had known actual Civil War veterans.

I love these 'links". Where you knew a person who long ago knew a person of a major historical event.

This man was the last surviving person who witnessed Abraham Lincolns assassination.
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Tthis man was the last surviving person who witnessed Abraham Lincolns assassination.
Please, could you tell us that you're linking to a video that starts automatically? I would like to choose whether I want to see a video, rather than have one forced upon me.

I had a few relatives that were alive during the US Civil war. I met them, I was very young and they were very old, but they remembered the conflict. As Canadians, they played no part. But I heard their stories.

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When I was born, the Civil War was not quite as far in the past as WW I is for a child born today.
I remember perfectly well the Civil War centennial in my childhood. My neighborhood in Phoenix had irrigation for the lawns which meant there was a berm between each yard. Most were less than a foot tall but since the topography had a slight slope to it, a few were more like two-feet high on the downhill side. After looking at all those Matthew Brady photos of soldiers lined up in a trench, the extra high ones became our parapet.
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Old 12-27-2018, 11:25 AM
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I remember when the Beatles first arrive, and I remember hearing this song for the first time and thinking "64 is old!" Well, on December 25th I made it. I am now 64 years old, the subject of a Beatles song.

So let's list some things that prove you are chronologically old:

You remember when rock music was considered a fad that would fade in a couple of years.

You remember hippies and the whole 1960's bit.

You remember when people only had land line telephones, and if you called them and got a busy signal, you had to call them back.

You remember when grown up people were referred to as "girls and boys." But only certain grown up people (women and coloreds). Hell, you remember when calling a person "black" was considered derogatory, but using the N-word wasn't.

Add some more, please.
When I talk to my co-workers who are all younger about what things were like when I was a kid. There weren't any video games (first ones that regular people could afford started coming out when I was in early college). Same goes for cable (there was no satellite TV, at least not for folks like my family)...it started coming out in a mass way after I was out of high school. The big one is...there was no internet. I tell them stories about the first online connection being things like bulletin boards (I had one of my own I ran for several years) and how they were used to exchange programs and other stuff (porn for instance ), or even how the early internet was and it blows their minds. They can't wrap their heads around much of it and ask me stuff that shows the disconnects ('so, your cell phone didn't have data?? Could you text??' 'Um...I didn't have a cell phone until I was out of college because even when they were available they were huge and only rich people had them').

I'm not as old as some of you (to Shodan, I was probably in a diaper or just naked chasing chickens in the back yard when Kennedy was shot...my first memories of the event were years later at several of my uncles or grandmothers homes where they would build little shrines to the man, right next to the ones of Mary or Jesus)...but the world has sure changed a lot since I was a kid. When I think about it, it reminds me that I'm getting long in the tooth...
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I have worked at my current job (38+ years) longer than many of the people working there have been alive. Many of them look younger than my oldest grandchildren.
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I remember figuring out I would be 47 in the year 2000 when I was nine years old. That seemed impossibly old. And as for the When I'm 64 song, that ship has sailed too.
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Any body else remember MS-DOS and the blinking cursor of death?
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Any body else remember MS-DOS and the blinking cursor of death?
I remember the first versions when they came out, and I still remember the IBM version. Hell, I remember the first personal computer OS platforms that weren't DOS. I even recall the first GUIs used and early demos of them...and people saying they would never be a thing.

(One anecdote I'll share was when I was getting my degree in computer science one of my professors said, to paraphrase, that micro-computer networks would never be more than a toy. This was at a time I was already working with Banyan Vines and early Novell Netware networks)
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Happy birthday Annie! "When I'm 64" is one of my most favorite songs. I'm not quite there
yet but here are a few things:

Probably 98 percent of the people in my office have never used a rotary phone.

If you heard a song on the radio and wanted to buy it you had to go down to your local record store.
If you didn't know the name of the song or the group you had to wait until they played it on the radio
again or ask a friend (What is that long song that starts out kind of quiet "Is this the real life.." then
changes to opera and after that really rocks out?).

To withdrawing money from the bank meant going into the bank when it was open and speaking
with a teller.

A couple years ago I was at an art festival where they had a band playing. The band very good and
was playing a lot of cool songs so I went over to take a look. I got there just in time to hear
the last song and was shocked. The audience rocking out to the music looked like a bunch of senior
citizens and the band members all had grey hair. The song they were playing? "Doctor My Eyes" by
Jackson Browne.
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I haven't quite reached the milestone of having a President who was younger than me. But it's been real close; Barack Obama is less than three months older than me.

There was a bad moment this year going to the 50th anniversary re-release of Yellow Submarine and reflected that I saw it during its initial release.
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I haven't quite reached the milestone of having a President who was younger than me. But it's been real close; Barack Obama is less than three months older than me.
Obama was my first. It was not until then that I truly understood the grumbling my father did when Kennedy was elected.
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Any body else remember MS-DOS and the blinking cursor of death?
You had a cursor? I had to program the blinking block to make one. Heck, I remember when I had to write my own OS, before MSDOS or CP/M.
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College students didn't need to work, except maybe a summer job. Backpacking around Europe was a thing. There were lots of good jobs which required few skills. People retired on defined benefit pensions. Renting a one br apartment on a minimum wage job was possible. Hitchhiking, at least for white people, was possible. Cops didn't look like they were members of a SWAT team. There WERE no SWAT teams. Public transportation was reliable and cheap. Gas was cheap. The pot was awful and mostly seeds. There was no good beer. Or bread. Flying was easy; buy a ticket with cash and get on the plane. No ID required. Cars didn't last long. Getting 100,000 miles was extraordinary. Bodies rusted. No power steering or brakes. Women did not drive SUV sized vehicles. You needed to be a Teamster to crank the wheel. Employers were not abusive; they didn't want the union on their ass. And so on.
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College students didn't need to work, except maybe a summer job. Backpacking around Europe was a thing. There were lots of good jobs which required few skills. People retired on defined benefit pensions. Renting a one br apartment on a minimum wage job was possible. Hitchhiking, at least for white people, was possible. Cops didn't look like they were members of a SWAT team. There WERE no SWAT teams. Public transportation was reliable and cheap. Gas was cheap. The pot was awful and mostly seeds. There was no good beer. Or bread. Flying was easy; buy a ticket with cash and get on the plane. No ID required. Cars didn't last long. Getting 100,000 miles was extraordinary. Bodies rusted. No power steering or brakes. Women did not drive SUV sized vehicles. You needed to be a Teamster to crank the wheel. Employers were not abusive; they didn't want the union on their ass. And so on.
"Bodies rusted." Sadly, that's my main problem these days...
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I remember using card catalogs at the library, paper encyclopedias and (wonder of wonders) the Reader's Guide to Periodic Literature when doing research papers.

I remember needing to get permission from my social studies teacher to turn in my papers type-written instead of in cursive. There was some doubt as to whether I did the typing myself. I had to prove I could type so they didn't think my parents helped me. I learned on a manual typewriter. We typed carbon copies because there was no such thing as a photocopier...

I remember over half of my class in high-school being in the technical track - expected to get jobs right after graduating. Many were engaged and got married right out of high-school. It was the exception to be going to college. Then came Viet Nam and college deferments...
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I remember typing term papers with an manual Smith-Corona typewriter. I remember watching TV when Alan Shepard was launched into space (it was all the 3 channels that were available were carrying). I remember when I heard the Kennedy was dead (coming out of school and seeing my mom crying).

I hope I can keep remembering stuff for the next 30 years or more (I intend to live forever or die trying).
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The thing that I find most alarming is that at age 70, I can see the end of my life. Let's say I live to be 95. (My mother died earlier this year at 93.) That's only 25 years away. I can EASILY remember 25 years ago-- 1993. That was the day before yesterday.

When I was 30, I found a picture of a little old white-haired lady wearing a knitted shawl and a football helmet and holding a cat on her lap. I posted it on my office door and labeled it, "ThelmaLou in 2012." In 2012 I would be 64 years old and that seemed impossibly far away. When 2012 came, needless to say, I WASN'T a little old white-haired lady. I'm still not. But I can't deny that I'm old. I'm an elder. I'm elderly. I'm a senior citizen. I still can't believe it.
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The thing that I find most alarming is that at age 70, I can see the end of my life. Let's say I live to be 95. That's only 25 years away. I can EASILY remember 25 years ago-- 1993. That was the day before yesterday.
That's what rattles me. I'm "only" in my mid-50s and though I'm healthy now, I'm surmising that by the time I hit 75 I'll be on borrowed time....some 20-something years from now...and the last 20 years was like a blur to me. It's just like you say: it may as well be the day before yesterday.

On the plus side, my parents were/are the first in my family to live past their mid-60s. Still doing pretty good in their late 70s. Maybe the sliding scale of healthier living will favor my generation of family even more.
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My grandfather fought in the Boer War, my mother rode a horse to school (with a sibling on the same horse) and I had a slate. I remember when 30 seemed ancient.

Now my remaining friends have prostate issues, cancer and melanomas. I don't know how I escaped. My parents lived to their mid 90's and almost 90 but I don't know if that is a blessing when all the people you know are having a dirt nap.

However, I am having a Heineken in Amsterdam and enjoying life. 70's and 80's music is still great and life is a lot easier than ever before. Apart from my knees hurting from fucking cobblestones. And I also get a discount at Museums here being over 62 (why 62?) And when I joined the Dope I was young thing...
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Having watched Elizabeth II's coronation, and Ike's first inauguration on TV (a b/w Zenith with a 12" circular screen).

Being 3 months older than the oldest boomer.

Being already in college when JFK was shot.

Listening to "When I'm 64," and looking back with nostalgia.

Everything in your body either dries up or leaks.
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Old 12-27-2018, 01:55 PM
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Having watched Elizabeth II's coronation, and Ike's first inauguration on TV (a b/w Zenith with a 12" circular screen).

Being 3 months older than the oldest boomer.

Being already in college when JFK was shot.

Listening to "When I'm 64," and looking back with nostalgia.

Everything in your body either dries up or leaks.
Hey, you're still kicking. I am not sure I can ever forgive you for telling me about Cicero the pig however.
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Old 12-27-2018, 02:16 PM
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I'm a couple years younger but ----------- damn these lazy kids I work with! We have some work ethic and all they want to do is stand around talking about video games and texting on their phones. Put that damn phone down already before I shake my cane at you again you runny-nosed crumb-crunching little snots!

Which come to think about it is about the same reaction my Gramma had to that transistor radio that was glued to my hand for ten years ------
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Old 12-27-2018, 02:25 PM
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Wow.
I remember pay phone booths and listening to "The Age of Aquarius" when I was 6 living in San Francisco. I remember my crossing guard giving me a ride in her brand new Volkswagen Beetle and how weird it looked and how the seats felt.
I remember a time in high school when "leaving for the summer" meant I would probably never hear about friends the whole time and have to ask them what they did all summer.
I remember those non cable days when TV went off at night and they might as well have had a card come up on the TV that said "go to bed."
I remember using Vax computing systems in college to do school work, using a plotter to do my customer graphs when I started real work and saying stupid things like, "why would anyone ever want a color computer monitor?"
I remember pre microwave days when as a kid the kitchen was pretty much off limits on cooking (we had a gas stove). Also I recall how truly awful those early TV dinners were.
I remember a time when my parents were truly from another generation. (I am 52)
We didn't share the same musical tastes, the same fashion nor did we even talk about the same things. (my Dad owned 1 pair of sneakers for over 10 years and I never remember him wearing bluejeans. He only wore work pants, slacks or a suit pants.
Oh and we always sat down together as a family to eat dinner. You ate what was served and if you didn't like it you were excused.... To go to bed! Lol.
No one wore seat belts and my Mom held each of us in her arms in the front seat of our car - no child seats. If any kid dared roller skate or bike ride with a helmet he/she would be laughed off of the planet.
We really weren't poor or middle class but nothing and I mean nothing was wasted. (both my parents lived thru the Great Depression) Toothpaste was squeezed until it burst from all corners. If we ran out of milk before the month was over that sometimes meant canned carnation milk in our cereal before school. All shirts and pants with holes were patched and reworn.

God I miss them days sometimes.
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Old 12-27-2018, 04:10 PM
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I recall when:

Milk was delivered early in the morning by the back door.
Mail was delivered twice a day.
Walter Cronkite delivered Vietnam War casualty/fatality totals every night on TV.
Fortran cards had to be filled with a #2 pencil.
I read a story in the newspaper ca. early-1990s about one middle school girl telling another that Paul McCartney used to be in “this other band” in the ‘60s.


My car turned 50 years old this year (though I've only owned it since 1990).

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Old 12-27-2018, 06:33 PM
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When a new-ish co-worker mentioned that he was 25 years old, I responded with "when you were born I had already been working here 6 years".

The look on his face was as if I'd just announced I had served in the Civil War.


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