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Old 03-27-2018, 03:37 PM
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I was addicted to escorts - ask me anything


I was regularly seeing escorts for about 5 years. I was married the entire time. It was really easy to do and surprisingly wasn't that costly.

Ask me anything about my experiences.
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Why did you stop?
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Could you hear them too, or does that cost extra?
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How many STDs do you have now?
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Why did you stop?

Technically, I guess I haven't stopped. I have been to massage parlors like 3 times in last year and got rub and tugs. But I don't see traditional escorts, hookers.

A few things caused me to stop with escorts.

1 - I moved to new city and wasn't familiar with the providers and the law enforcement tactics. Also new city has less providers, lower quality and higher prices.

2. Guilt

3. I ended up divorcing my wife and am seeing a great girl in a different city.
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Escorts to where? Movies? Ballgames?
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Could you hear them too, or does that cost extra?
Hear them? Not sure I understand.
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You have five senses. You only talked about using one of them on the escorts.
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How many STDs do you have now?
None, I did catch some type of warts in my pubic area. Not genital warts bc they were on my genitals.

Scared me to death. They went away after a few weeks. I believe I got them a girl who gave me bj only. I was on a kick where I just wanted oral only and that was when I got the warts.
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Escorts to where? Movies? Ballgames?
It was purely sexual. Not companionship. It was usually their hotel room, their apartment, my hotel if I was traveling. Sometimes oral in my car.
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None, I did catch some type of warts in my pubic area. Not genital warts bc they were on my genitals.
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How can you say it wasn't costly? You lost a wife and got warts. What does the new girl think about this hobby?
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3. I ended up divorcing my wife and am seeing a great girl in a different city.
Oh, so you were able to afford a free girl!
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should have said it was not on my genitals. It was something else and cleared up.
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How can you say it wasn't costly? You lost a wife and got warts. What does the new girl think about this hobby?
You're right, the divorce was expensive but we didn't divorce over my escort activities. The ex wife never knew.

Warts are gone.

New girl doesn't know. I am not seeing escorts anymore.
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Oh, so you were able to afford a free girl!
I was getting regular free sex from my ex W the whole time I was seeing escorts but nice try.
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This seems like highly personal information. What inspired you to join the board today and tell us about it?
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New girl doesn't know. I am not seeing escorts anymore.
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Technically, I guess I haven't stopped. I have been to massage parlors like 3 times in last year and got rub and tugs. But I don't see traditional escorts, hookers.
I'm guessing your new girl doesn't know about this. Yet.

If you're going to keep having sex with professionals, you need to look for a relationship with a woman who's okay with that. Otherwise, you're just going to go through a series of failed relationships.
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This seems like highly personal information. What inspired you to join the board today and tell us about it?
It's not something you can tell your friends about. The experience was an incredible rush and disappointment at the same time. I guess it's therapeutic to talk about.

I used to belong to a website dedicated to the "Hobby" and could talk about things there - mostly review providers with others - but I am not on that site anymore.
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Uh huh.


I'm guessing your new girl doesn't know about this. Yet.

If you're going to keep having sex with professionals, you need to look for a relationship with a woman who's okay with that. Otherwise, you're just going to go through a series of failed relationships.
I guess I rationalize it as not sex. It's just a massage and hj. In some countries that is common. Actually her married friend who is a girl got a happy ending during her massage in Italy. My gf said she would have done the same thing when married bc she was in sexless marriage.
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I was regularly seeing escorts for about 5 years. I was married the entire time. It was really easy to do and surprisingly wasn't that costly.

Ask me anything about my experiences.
Cool. Here's an Escort owners club. Old Escorts from the 70s are going for crazy prices now, but this purple one is pretty sweet.
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Ask me anything about my experiences.
You've never posted to this message board prior to this, but chose today to post for the very first time about your experience cheating on your wife with prostitutes. Why? What drove you to this particular site? Isn't the Penthouse Forum still available for this sort of thing?
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You've never posted to this message board prior to this, but chose today to post for the very first time about your experience cheating on your wife with prostitutes. Why? What drove you to this particular site? Isn't the Penthouse Forum still available for this sort of thing?
Answered this above but will add I found this site thru unrelated search.
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You should tell the new girl. Y'all could do some role-play games. It could be fun.
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What do you mean it wasn't that costly? My understanding is that even the low quality hookers start at $60 (it is closer to $100+ to visit one who is halfway decent, the good ones are even more obviously, several hundred per session).

That would add up, unless you are upper middle class and spending $100-200 here and there isn't a big deal.

Have you considered traveling to Germany? That is supposedly the mecca of prostitution now.

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I've heard guys who visit escorts say sometimes it is just like a more risky, more expensive version of masturbation and sometimes it is really great and you become obsessed with it. Was it like that? What do you mean exactly?
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You said it was not that costly. What are the going rates for the various services in your area? Did you pay more for better looking companions?
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Answered this above but will add I found this site thru unrelated search.
In that case, you may be disappointed to learn that this site really has nothing to do with marijuana.
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What do you mean it wasn't that costly? My understanding is that even the low quality hookers start at $60 (it is closer to $100+ to visit one who is halfway decent, the good ones are even more obviously, several hundred per session).

That would add up, unless you are upper middle class and spending $100-200 here and there isn't a big deal.

Have you considered traveling to Germany? That is supposedly the mecca of prostitution now.

What do you mean by

I've heard guys who visit escorts say sometimes it is just like a more risky, more expensive version of masturbation and sometimes it is really great and you become obsessed with it. Was it like that? What do you mean exactly?
I make good money, not wealthy but upper middle class. I didn't like long sessions. I typically did half hour - anywhere from $60-$140. I really preferred the "blow-n-go". I got that for $30-$80. I did a $400 session once but it wasn't worth it at all.

It was a rush because 1. you spend time finding a provider, researching to see if she's been reviewed, exchanging texts, setting up time and place. Arriving and getting a little nervous this might be the time it's a set up. The sex was never that great but I was with some pretty hot women. Some were much younger than me. I am was in my 40s and was with some hot girls that were in their early 20s and one 19 year old. Incredible bodies.

I felt unsatisfied a lot after sex so I preferred the bj only. But there is some truth to it is an expensive version of masturbation.
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You said it was not that costly. What are the going rates for the various services in your area? Did you pay more for better looking companions?
The city I use to live had a lot of good looking providers and good rates. It's supply demand. Basically rates were:

BJ only, blow-n-go - $30-$80
Half Hour - oral + sex $60-$140
Hour - $150 on up.

I was with some very hot girls that were on the cheaper side. I would say they were not career escorts. Some escorts have their own website and travel to different cities. They are very expensive. I saw a smoking hot Russian blonde that was $400 but not worth it.

I had a regular girl I got bjs from. One time she only charged $30 and it was one of the best bj's I ever had.
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Why do you call the sex workers "escorts"?

I have always thought of escorts as rent-a-babes that you hire to accompany you to parties, dinners, etc. But what you're describing is more like prostitution.
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The city I use to live had a lot of good looking providers and good rates. It's supply demand. Basically rates were:

BJ only, blow-n-go - $30-$80
Half Hour - oral + sex $60-$140
Hour - $150 on up.

I was with some very hot girls that were on the cheaper side. I would say they were not career escorts. Some escorts have their own website and travel to different cities. They are very expensive. I saw a smoking hot Russian blonde that was $400 but not worth it.

I had a regular girl I got bjs from. One time she only charged $30 and it was one of the best bj's I ever had.
Did the Russian like to gamble?
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Why do you call the sex workers "escorts"?

I have always thought of escorts as rent-a-babes that you hire to accompany you to parties, dinners, etc. But what you're describing is more like prostitution.
You're right in some sense but most escorts are prostitutes. Backpage use to have a "escort" section but they were all prostitutes.

Escort = call girl = prostitute

Hooker = street walker = prostitute
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Well. I wouldn't say that...
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I guess I rationalize it as not sex. It's just a massage and hj. In some countries that is common. Actually her married friend who is a girl got a happy ending during her massage in Italy. My gf said she would have done the same thing when married bc she was in sexless marriage.
If it really was no big deal then your girlfriend would know about it. She apparently does not know (at least as far as you know). That means you realize she wouldn't want you doing this. But you're doing it anyway and trying to conceal it from her. That's a problem in a relationship.
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So tell us, when you date non prostitues, do you tell them of your extensive experience with prostitutes? ( Because, as a woman, I’d want to know that before I bed a man! )

What percentage of the time, when with prostitutes, are you wearing protection?

How do you think women feel about a man who carries on like this for years, while married, and still sexing the wife?
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So tell us, when you date non prostitues, do you tell them of your extensive experience with prostitutes? ( Because, as a woman, I’d want to know that before I bed a man! )

What percentage of the time, when with prostitutes, are you wearing protection?

How do you think women feel about a man who carries on like this for years, while married, and still sexing the wife?
I am not proud of what I did and I know it's easy to judge and condemn me. But it was an addiction like drugs or alcohol. I guess there's more understanding and compassion for drug and alcohol addiction.

I have told nobody about my experiences with prostitutes. I am sure men will not divulge this info to you before you bed them.

Usually (98%) of the time with oral it was bare back. I was in bad place in my life and seeking a greater rush (high) and I did have bare back sex with about 5 providers. Just like a heroin addict wanting a better high no matter the risks. This was very stupid I know.

I am sure women look down upon this. People have flaws, make mistakes, some very bad mistakes.
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You keep saying providers and escorts, does that makes it more acceptable for you?
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You keep saying providers and escorts, does that makes it more acceptable for you?
We all know what it is - sex for money. What you call it doesn't matter. There are discussion forums for "hobbyist" and the common term used there is "providers".
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Okay, ‘hobbyist’, is hilarious!
Ha Ha Ha!
Thanks for the grins.
Ima be giggling about this all day!
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Okay, ‘hobbyist’, is hilarious!
Ha Ha Ha!
Thanks for the grins.
Ima be giggling about this all day!
There's a whole set of terms and acronyms used in the "hobby" that would make you giggle
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You're right in some sense but most escorts are prostitutes. Backpage use to have a "escort" section but they were all prostitutes.

Escort = call girl = prostitute

Hooker = street walker = prostitute
Back in the day, escort services were predominantly featured in the yellow pages of the phone book. It was a transparent fiction - the service provided you with a dinner companion and if you and the girl decided to work out a private arrangement for other services, that was none of the escort service’s business.

I guess my question for the OP is — Have you thought about seeking help or at least examining the underlying issues that compel you to engage in this behavior? Because it is an addiction. And it’s going to escalate again — right now you’re like the alcoholic that’s managed to control his drinking by only having three beers a day for the past month. You’re a slip waiting to happen.


And he even admits it’s not about the sex, it’s more about the thrill of the chase. Or compulsion, I think.
It’s not going to end well.
His SO may catch him. He might be “outed”, Ashley Madison style. He might be robbed or assaulted by one of the sex workers. Or one of them may accuse him of assault. Someone may find out and attempt to blackmail him.

And even if none of the above happens, a sexual addiction is not compatible with a healthy relationship. Addictions are limprisoning. They dictate the terms or your other relationships, your travel, your lifestyle. The thrill of the secret and the fear of getting caught out co- opt the healthy parts of the brain. Sexual addictions are particularly destructive to healthy sexual relationships, the two just can’t exist side by side.

And I think davidngrk may be starting to realize this. It may be what lead him to post here instead of in a specialty forum where everyone is just reinforcing the idea that this behavior is normal.

Or maybe he’s just stealth bragging. Or just bragging.

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Did you know, or have reason to believe, that some of the escorts were being coerced into prostitution? If so, did it trouble you or did you rationalize that too?
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Do you think that you ever had sex with a man that you thought was a woman? Would it bother you if you have? Do you think that all the prostitures you had sex with were doing it of their own free will?
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Did you know, or have reason to believe, that some of the escorts were being coerced into prostitution? If so, did it trouble you or did you rationalize that too?
Good point and something to think about. Years ago I read an excellent book about the legal brothels in Nevada and the thing that struck me the most was that pretty much every woman that worked there had been coerced to some extent by a husband or boyfriend that they were supporting.

https://www.amazon.com/Brothel-Musta...s=brothel+book

Also, the women work on contracts and they are virtual prisoners during the term of that contract. They are required to live on premises. They are billed for food ( different brothels handled this differently, some were pretty loose, other places billed every bite they ate at restaurant prices). If they really need to leave the premises they have to pay an expensive escort ( a different kind of escort, obviously ). They are not allowed to keep any personal possessions under lock and key and all of their sessions are recorded ( audio only)

The purpose is to ensure that the girls remain disease free and don’t use the job as a cover for other illegal activities such as drug-dealing. But it’s still disempowering.

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Or maybe he’s just stealth bragging. Or just bragging.
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In seriousness, I find this thread fascinating. I wonder who these people are that keep sex workers employed. Who would choose that? Obviously, a lot of people! It's so far from my experience that I just don't get it. Sure, this is just one man's story, but it's a data point.
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