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Old 02-06-2019, 08:46 AM
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Donít waste that perfectly good fetus!

The thread on 3rd term abortions got me thinking. You could potentially be pulling out a 3-7 pound non-person fetus of meat.

Any pro choice folks have an issue with me trying some fresh, tender, recently aborted fetus?

We could help feed the poor. Or open hip niche butcheries in gentrified areas in cities.

So, may I eat your fetus? Please?

If not, why not?
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Old 02-06-2019, 09:03 AM
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Being pro choice, i would think it would be, you know, the mothers choice...
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And what about amputated limbs? Or removed organs?
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Old 02-06-2019, 09:23 AM
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Personally I would have issues but if you find a legal way I'm not going to try and stop you other than through (possibly) legislation. Like with the odd amputated fingers or arms or whatever, replaced organs, and the like my preference would be to see it dealt with more along those lines.

And at least to me pro-choice doesn't mean anything goes; YMMV and what those limits will vary by individual. I'm not much interested in the placenta either but ................
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And what about amputated limbs? Or removed organs?
That is something different.

THAT is cannibalism (which I am totally down to try but thatís for another thread).

Aborted fetus is just a bunch of cells. Not a human/person.
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Old 02-06-2019, 09:27 AM
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Personally I would have issues but if you find a legal way I'm not going to try and stop you other than through (possibly) legislation. Like with the odd amputated fingers or arms or whatever, replaced organs, and the like my preference would be to see it dealt with more along those lines.

And at least to me pro-choice doesn't mean anything goes; YMMV and what those limits will vary by individual. I'm not much interested in the placenta either but ................
So, killing the fetus is ok but eating it is not? That seems odd.

How dare you try to take my right to eating fetuses away through legislation!
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Old 02-06-2019, 09:32 AM
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Well I'm convinced. Well played, OP.
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Old 02-06-2019, 09:33 AM
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The thread on 3rd term abortions got me thinking. You could potentially be pulling out a 3-7 pound non-person fetus of meat.

Any pro choice folks have an issue with me trying some fresh, tender, recently aborted fetus?

We could help feed the poor. Or open hip niche butcheries in gentrified areas in cities.

So, may I eat your fetus? Please?

If not, why not?
Only the Irish ones.
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Gross. I never want to think about eating human flesh.
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Due to misreading thread title thought thread going to be about Greek cheese.

Would like to register disappointment.
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Old 02-06-2019, 09:45 AM
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Gross. I never want to think about eating human flesh.
This is very dicey territory indeed. You say human flesh, but itís not. Itís just a bundle of cells. There was never anything human about it!

Please donít needlessly complicate this.
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I don't think this discussion is in good faith.

Friends of mine with a stillborn ( two months early) baby, got the body to have a funeral. it gave them much needed closure.
The Netherlands has recently made it possible to register any lost third trimester fetus as a person, with a date of birth and death. Not just for emotional reasons; also for insurance purposes.
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Due to misreading thread title thought thread going to be about Greek cheese.

Would like to register disappointment.
Youíll never crave feta again after youíve gone fetus my friend. Brine the brain and *bam* fetus feta.
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Old 02-06-2019, 09:51 AM
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Baka, thank goodness you've joined our message board, it's refreshing to have such a useful take on one of the more contentious issues of our time.
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I don't think this discussion is in good faith.

Friends of mine with a stillborn ( two months early) baby, got the body to have a funeral. it gave them much needed closure.
The Netherlands has recently made it possible to register any lost third trimester fetus as a person, with a date of birth and death. Not just for emotional reasons; also for insurance purposes.
Why would you have a funeral for a bundle of cells that was never a person?
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Baka, thank goodness you've joined our message board, it's refreshing to have such a useful take on one of the more contentious issues of our time.
I just love tender meat bro.
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If you're looking to actually have a debate on your views regarding when life begins, then you may do so in GD and state your premise according to the rules of that forum.

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Excellent username/topic combo. FYI, Baka is Japanese for idiot.
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Yay. We’ve moved to the BBQ pit. All we need now are your freshly aborted fetuses and baby rays sauce
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Tasty Fetus Stew
Cooked-stew, Serves up to 2 people

Ingredients

One properly prepared fetus
2 tablespoons flour
Salt and pepper to taste
2 teaspoons of curry powder
1 1/2 teaspoons of ground ginger
2 tablspoons butter or oil
1 large onion (sliced)
2 tablespoons brown vinegar
4 tablespoons Worcestershire sauce
4 tablspoons tomato sauce
2 tablespoons brown sugar
1 cup stock
500g pumpkin

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Trim Fetus. Mix flour with salt, pepper, curry powder and ginger and coat fetus with[mixture]. Heat half the butter or oil in a heavy pan and brown fetus on both sides. Remove to plate. Add remaining butter to pan with onion and cook gently until soft. Return fetus to pan. Mix vinegar, sauces, sugar and stock and pour over fetus. Cover, bring to a simmer, reduce heat to a low and simmer gently for 1 hour. Skim any fat off the surface and add pumpkin, which has been peeled and cut into large pieces. cover and cook for a further 30 minutes or until fetus and pumpkin are tender.

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Excellent username/topic combo. FYI, Baka is Japanese for idiot.
What about the question. It is valid and I would actually eat an aborted fetus. Since you are up on your Japanese donít you think it mottainai ro
Just throw them away?
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Old 02-06-2019, 10:27 AM
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I invite you to visit the nearest hospital and ask them for discarded human body parts (fetuses, amputated limbs, etc.) for your consumption.
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The thread on 3rd term abortions got me thinking.
Not according to what I'm reading here.

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If not, why not?
No. Go find your own.
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Yay. Weíve moved to the BBQ pit.
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What about the question. It is valid and I would actually eat an aborted fetus. Since you are up on your Japanese donít you think it mottainai ro
Just throw them away?
I don't engage with idiots.
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You’ll never crave feta again after you’ve gone fetus my friend. Brine the brain and *bam* fetus feta.
I don't think that's going to work, as feta is traditionally made with sheep's milk (or a combination of sheep and goat's milk).

Not wishing to be rude, but I find your knowledge of the cheese-making process to be somewhat underwhelming.
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Old 02-06-2019, 10:28 AM
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So, may I eat your fetus? Please?

If not, why not?
In most cases, surgical leavings are owned by the clinic that excised them, until they are disposed of as medical waste, or unless the patient asks for it. If, say, I want my gallbladder as a memento of my gallbladder surgery, they will give it to me. No, you can't have it because I'm making it into a paperweight. Same with a fetus.

If it isn't transferred to me, then it's the property of the hospital. No, you can't have it, because they aren't allowed to give away surgical leavings to non-patients.

Once it's disposed as surgical waste and becomes common medical waste, then you don't need anyone's permission to take it and eat it (I guess). You have my blessing to trespass onto a medical waste disposal facility and eat the biohazard garbage to your heart's content.

Please commence as soon as possible and let us know how that goes.
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This is very dicey territory indeed. You say human flesh, but itís not. Itís just a bundle of cells. There was never anything human about it!
Human cells. They had human DNA. Nobody's arguing that.

The debate's over personhood, not species.
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Hey OP, you might want to consider educating yourself before spouting off on an issue you clearly seem to know little about. Just a thought.

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Hey OP, you might want to consider educating yourself before spouting off on an issue you clearly seem to know little about. Just a thought.
The OP may also find this article educational.
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So, may I eat your fetus?
Why are you asking others for their fetuses? Make, abort and consume your own. Or at least ask someone local to you for theirs. Most of us are thousands of miles from you. The shipping cost is going to make prime Kobe beef or bluefin tuna look like a bargain.
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Hey OP, you might want to consider educating yourself before spouting off on an issue you clearly seem to know little about. Just a thought.
I donít really care what type of abortion it is. I only used 3rd term because there would be more meat.

This is a thought (I know, I know im not capable!) experiment.

I want to know if there is any moral imperative that tells me I should not be allowed to eat an aborted fetus.
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Why are you asking others for their fetuses? Make, abort and consume your own. Or at least ask someone local to you for theirs. Most of us are thousands of miles from you. The shipping cost is going to make prime Kobe beef or bluefin tuna look like a bargain.
Iíve already adopted two potential aborted fetuses and I donít intend to eat them!
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The OP may also find this article educational.
Well, there you go. Until this moment I never knew there was such a thing as a curd knife. Ignorance fought.

See how that works, OP?
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I donít really care what type of abortion it is. I only used 3rd term because there would be more meat.

This is a thought (I know, I know im not capable!) experiment.

I want to know if there is any moral imperative that tells me I should not be allowed to eat an aborted fetus.
If you're only standard for morality of food is personhood then I've got some delicious puppies to sell you. 100% guaranteed not to be people and more meat than a fetus. You interested?
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If you're only standard for morality of food is personhood then I've got some delicious puppies to sell you. 100% guaranteed not to be people and more meat than a fetus. You interested?
Bahahaha.

I live in Asia. Sure I’ll eat your puppies! Ever had dog stew in Korea? How about stir fried in China?
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I don’t really care what type of abortion it is. I only used 3rd term because there would be more meat.

This is a thought (I know, I know im not capable!) experiment.

I want to know if there is any moral imperative that tells me I should not be allowed to eat an aborted fetus.
No. Next question.

While we're waiting, a little mood music for the thread. You're welcome!

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I have a quality friend in Arizona who is having an abortion and we have several hungry here. How much would a finest Phoenix fetus feed us?
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No. Next question.

While we're waiting, a little mood music for the thread. You're welcome!
Thank you The Kabong for finally just answering my damn question!

It is OK to eat fetuses, as I expected.

I will procure and prepare. You are invited kind person.
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The thread on 3rd term abortions got me thinking. You could potentially be pulling out a 3-7 pound non-person fetus of meat.

Any pro choice folks have an issue with me trying some fresh, tender, recently aborted fetus?

We could help feed the poor. Or open hip niche butcheries in gentrified areas in cities.

So, may I eat your fetus? Please?

If not, why not?
That "OMG! When he puts it that way, I feel absolute shame in how I supported the murder of preborn babbies!!!" reaction you're fishing for?

Ain't gonna happen.
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Why are you asking others for their fetuses? Make, abort and consume your own. Or at least ask someone local to you for theirs. Most of us are thousands of miles from you. The shipping cost is going to make prime Kobe beef or bluefin tuna look like a bargain.
Iíve already adopted two potential aborted fetuses and I donít intend to eat them!
Well, why not eat them? It would cost you less than raising them to adulthood.
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Well, why not eat them? It would cost you less than raising them to adulthood.
Believe me. Iíve thought about it with the youngest one.
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That "OMG! When he puts it that way, I feel absolute shame in how I supported the murder of preborn babbies!!!" reaction you're fishing for?

Ain't gonna happen.
I never said anything about babies. Freak. Only fetuses.

I am literally wondering how you feel about me eating a fetus. I’m looking for consistency in your answer. I’m looking for everyone to be like El Kabong and say it’s ok because it should be ok!
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OK, I say it's OK, but it's on you to find the fetuses.
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I never said anything about babies. Freak. Only fetuses.

I am literally wondering how you feel about me eating a fetus. Iím looking for consistency in your answer. Iím looking for everyone to be like El Kabong and say itís ok because it should be ok!
Actually, I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt in thinking that you were trying to be clever...but it seems you were being stupid all along. My apologies for the mistaken assumption.
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I never said anything about babies. Freak. Only fetuses.

I am literally wondering how you feel about me eating a fetus. Iím looking for consistency in your answer. Iím looking for everyone to be like El Kabong and say itís ok because it should be ok!
You could always shove the fetus up your ass and then go to a party. In the middle of conversation scream HOLY SHIT MY WATER BROKE and then drop your trousers and shit out a wee baby. There are plenty of uses for fetuses; no need to just gobble them up.
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