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Old 04-20-2000, 06:45 PM
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But if Unc ever starts a thread with MY name in the title, I will NOT press the bright, shiny, red, candy-like button that opens it.
All right, let's see if I can get on one more shitlist today. Uke's gonna wander in here shortly and recommend a book for anyone who asks.

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Old 04-20-2000, 07:04 PM
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Heeheehee. I'm gonna get in on this one. Hook me up, Uke! Let's see what you can do with the limited amount of info you have to work with here. BTW, John McPhee is out, 'cause I've already read all his books.

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Old 04-20-2000, 07:08 PM
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Assuming Uke does wander in, I'm always on the lookout for a good book recommendation. Uke, how about something vaguely nautical?
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Old 04-20-2000, 07:11 PM
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OK, for my light summer reading, I need a few crime novels. Agatha Christie, Conan Doyle, P.D. James, Ruth Rendell, Elmore Leonard, Tony Hillerman, Sue Grafton are all out (I've read several books by each author, all the books in some cases.)

I want a new detective whose career I can follow throughout several novels!
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Old 04-20-2000, 07:13 PM
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I'm in. Got a book for me, Uke?
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Old 04-20-2000, 07:13 PM
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OH yeah! we be books! I'll take one please

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Old 04-20-2000, 07:15 PM
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Maybe some leather S and M erotica?

I've been a very naughty boy.

P.S. Bonus points if it has pictures.

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Old 04-20-2000, 07:16 PM
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I, myself, am looking for a light author as an antidote to the very heavy literature I have been reading the last few years--most recently, a lot of Chaucer and Melville. A whole lot of Melville. But, this English degree I have paid so dearly for has all but robbed me of the ability to read bad writting--I cringe at authors I loved before. So who out there is a light read without an amature style?
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Old 04-20-2000, 07:20 PM
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Booyah. Book me Uke!
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Old 04-20-2000, 07:47 PM
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Har! Here's another request, Ike. Nothin' by Faulkner, though. Been there, am livin' that.

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Old 04-20-2000, 07:52 PM
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Whatuvya got along the lines of "Philosophy for Dummies"?
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Old 04-20-2000, 08:00 PM
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Arnold Winkelreid.

I am not Ukulele Ike but I can give you a suggestion for a trilogy you might enjoy.

Gorky Park.
Polar Star.
Red Square.
all my Martin Cruz-Smith.

great trilogy following Detective Arkady Renko who is one of my all time favorite fictional characters.

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Old 04-20-2000, 09:12 PM
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Manda JO--P.G. Wodehouse, S.J. Perelman, and perhaps Kingsley Amis would fit your needs.

Wodehouse would be my first choice for light reading--delicate truffles of writing. You can overdose (he suggested no more than one or two short stories of his a day), but they're a delight!

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Old 04-20-2000, 09:28 PM
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Ike...give it to me, Baby.

You KNOW you want to.

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Old 04-20-2000, 09:57 PM
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<uttered in appallingly polite tones>

Mayhap you could recommend something on, oh say, hobbies and leisure pursuits? Possibly a small press offering geared toward mental health workers.

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Old 04-20-2000, 10:35 PM
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Maybe some leather S and M erotica?

I've been a very naughty boy.

P.S. Bonus points if it has pictures.
No pictures, but have you read the Beauty trilogy by Anne Rice?

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Old 04-20-2000, 10:56 PM
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Oh, UncleBeer...this is TOO nice of you!

No shit...this makes me feel like Santa on Christmas morning! Let's see what I have in my bag for all the good little boys and girls...

First...COAL AND SWITCHES for Osip and Bucky. Bugger off, you two. This is MY thread.

Geobabe: You remind me of my good friend John from my college days. He was an earnest literature major before he snapped and switched to geology in his junior year. Before he turned to rocks, he liked to settle in with a good depressing Russian novel. So it's The Brothers Karamazov for you!

Lord Derfel: For the finest in nautical reading, I favor the novels of Commander Edward Ellsberg, the great naval salvage man. His 30 Fathoms Deep (1930) is one of the best diving novels I read as a lad.

Arnold W: A man with such a taste for the classics (except for Sue Grafton. Ewwwww.) must have read the Nero Wolfe series by Rex Stout, right? And the Father Brown stories by G.K. Chesterton? If so, look for the brilliant western Pa. regional crime novels of K.C. Constantine, the greatest crime novelist no one's heard of. Blood Mud is the most recent.

Falcon: No hints? Okay, for you, James Thurber's My World and Welcome To It.

B_Line12: For YOU, the recently reprinted Roland Huntford nonfiction thriller of Polar Exploration, The Last Place on Earth. A classic, and deservedly so,.

Sealemon: You want S&M? Have you read Anne Rice's "Beauty" trilogy? Bondage and paddlings galore, and both the sexes get equal time! If you want pictures, get a subscription to JANUS magazine.

Manda Jo: Yeah, P.G. Wodehouse is an excellent choice. And everyone here will second my recommendation of Terry Pratchett. Ronald Firbank is also light and airy and whimsical a British...New Directions has his Five Novels in print.

Mullinator: For my good buddy, only the best: Mikhail Bulgakov's The Master and Margarita. It'll change your f*cking life, man. You'll be running naked through the streets of Moscow. (The Devil hisself is the hero.)

Elelle: Try Joe R. Lansdale. It's Southern Gothic (well, East Texas Gothic) but with enough bizarre humor to make Faulkner roll in his grave.

Pluto: "Philosophy for Dummies" ? I have JUST the thing for you: R. Rust Hills; How to Do Things Right: The Revelations of a Fussy Man. I'm also reading G.K. Chesterton's life of St. Francis, and recommend that as well...

Jazzmine: Robert McCloskey; Make Way for Ducklings. Hee hee hee...

TVeblen: First, you have to get me a hobby. But if you really want a lovely tale of madness, try John Franklin Bardin; Devil Take the Blue Tail Fly. The story of an insane felmale harpsichordist. Talk about redundancy.

Okay, who's next? (No shit, Unc, I owe you a CASE of Labatts for this one...)


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Old 04-20-2000, 10:59 PM
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zyada, EXTRA switches for you (pun intended) for beating me (pun not intended)to that recommendation.

You know how long it took me to type that shit up?
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Old 04-20-2000, 11:06 PM
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Hey Ike. What do you have along the lines of Lord Dunsany?

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Old 04-21-2000, 12:15 AM
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Hey, Uke. Can you hook me up? I'm looking for something that make you think, but not too hard.

Just kidding. Actually, something either off the wall, or that makes you think.

Thanks!

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Old 04-21-2000, 12:20 AM
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Me! Me! I want to see what kind of impression I've made... fiction only, please. I am too frazzled for serious stuff.

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Old 04-21-2000, 12:21 AM
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Can I have one too, please? Huh? Huh? Can I?

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Old 04-21-2000, 12:23 AM
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Ooh! Ooh! Gimme one o' them thar book thingies!

One of my favorite subjects is early (really, really early) religious history, particularly Judeo-Christian history. Yeha, I know. "But Cristi, aren't you a pagan?" Well, yes. But from a purely historical standpoint, Judeo-Christianity is really damned interesting.

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Old 04-21-2000, 12:29 AM
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Uke, I gave no suggestions because I read anything and everything. I will second your recommendations of Brothers Karamazov and the works of K.C. Constantine. Both are excellent. Actually read Karamazov for fun once.

And I've also read the Beauty trilogy. Like I said....I read everything.

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Old 04-21-2000, 01:21 AM
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Books, huh? I've heard of those. Can I have one, Uke? Please?

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Old 04-21-2000, 01:25 AM
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Ike, I can't get enough good Arthurian fantasy, the longer the better . . . suggestions ?
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Old 04-21-2000, 01:53 AM
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I'm in, naturally.

No suggestions list, because there are too many possible categories to make a comprehensive list.

Bonus points if Uke can recommend a book I haven't read, double bonus points if he hits upon a book I've been considering/planning on reading.
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Ahhh, Uke....A book of SF&F that is both thought-provoking, and not cliche'd.

Please no TVseries tie ins, those are by definition, cliche'd.

Extra points if it is by an author I haven't read, and even more points if it is someone I haven't heard of.

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Dear Mr. Ike,

Of your previous recommedations I've enjoyed the works of Mr. Landsdale (both Hap & Leonard and his grisly horror) and Mr. Pratchett. P.G. Wodehouse has been for a long time in my reading list, but I'm afraid he has to wait still (a severe case overindulgence of dry British wit caused by Black Adder, Fawlty Towers and Monty Python). I read mostly science fiction and swear by Jack Vance, Harlan Ellison, Robert Sheckley, Fritz Leiber, Gene Wolfe and R.A. Lafferty, a recent discovery. And I MUST mention George MacDonald Fraser's Flashman-series, I can't believe you're unfamilliar with it?

So, could you kindly recommed a good book on gardening?

Nawww, something funny will do...

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Old 04-21-2000, 06:34 AM
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Ok Ike, I'm in. Hit me with your best, book that is.

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Uke,

How 'bout some good historical fiction? Something that moves along but isn't too frothy, with some real history so that I can learn something without it being crammed down my throat.

Thanks buddy.
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Gee, I have some nice books to get me through the weekend.

How about some good cassette tapes? Say, maybe . . . Oh, I don't know . . . Ute Lemper, or a collection of Disaster Songs from the early 20th century? THOSE sound like they might be something I'd wanna borrow.

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Old 04-21-2000, 09:10 AM
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Ahhh, Uke....A book of SF&F that is both thought-provoking, and not cliche'd.

Please no TVseries tie ins, those are by definition, cliche'd.

Extra points if it is by an author I haven't read, and even more points if it is someone I haven't heard of.
Hope Uke doesn't mind me pinch-hitting here for a moment, but this is my end of the publishing world you're talking about.

For SF: the novels of Iain M. Banks (the books without the "M." are non-SF, but worthy in their own twisted ways). Use of Weapons and Consider Phlebas are good starting places. The former is a novel told both backwards and forwards; the latter one of the best of the space opera revivals on the last decade or two (and more, as you might guess if you know the source of the title).

Fantasy: George R.R. Martin's "A Song of Ice and Fire." Two novels to date, A Game of Thrones and A Clash of Kings, with the third, A Storm of Swords coming in the fall. It's very loosely based on England's Wars of the Roses, and the characterization (of literally dozens of named persons) is exceptional.

Both of those are from the "entertaining" end of the spectrum, but if you want something chewy, I could dig that up as well.

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OK, UncleBeer... hit me.

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In a month or two, after my brain has cooled off from being in overdrive this week, I'm sure I'll be alookin' for something to peruse. I enjoy quirky books, and philosophy. But seeing as how it is summer, I'll want those in the soft-boiled versions.

Wassup, Uke, hook me up, yo.

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Oooh, Ike, I've got a book that I think you would love! It's called--

oops. sorry.

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I better start dealing with this in chunks. If I lose my connection in the middle of a looooong post, it'll be a Brodie for me...

Da Ace: Beat it! Getcher own damn thread! No, wait. I admit my reading in SF/Fantasy has been sketchy, though gratifying. Please stick around in case I run out of ideas in that realm...

Trion: Something like Lord Dunsany? There is NOTHING "like" Lord Dunsany. So I'll stretch a wee bit and say the short novels of Lord Berners, recently reprinted in an omnibus edition. While not strict fantasy, they are certainly surreal. And he's a Lord, too, and loved at approximately the same time. If you're leaning toward horr, do you know Algernon Blackwood? Dover has a "Best of" in print, and any Dunsany/Lovecraft buff should read his short story "The Willows."

Pixoid: Stop me if you've heard this from me before, but something that'll make you think and have fun at the same time is J.K. Huysmans' A REBOURS. (Get the Dover translation, called AGAINST THE GRAIN, NOT the Penguin translation, called AGAINST NATURE.) This was the infamous "yellow book" that so affected Dorian Gray in Wilde's novel.

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Old 04-21-2000, 09:51 AM
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Forgot to UBB. Sorry. Now,

Sassy: Hah! You think fiction ain't serious business? Have a go at G.K. Chesterton's THE MAN WHO WAS THURSDAY. Ignatius Press just published an edition annotated by Martin Gardner. A bizarre philosphical/theological thriller from 1907, still topical, and a marvelous read. Christopher Morley was hand-selling it back in the teens; he recommends it in his novel THE HAUNTED BOOKSHOP.

mega the roo: I kinda like picking books out of the clear blue sky, I admit. For you, Eddie Condon's 1947 autobiography, WE CALLED IT MUSIC. Condon was a jazz guitarist and club-owner, and his life in the 1920s typified Jazz Age weirdness. He was a mediocre musician, but a great personality...funny as hell, too.



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Oooh. I knew I liked you. Found it at random on the shelves of the Poinsett County Public Library in Harrisburg, Ark. when I was in high school and being one of the only interesting-looking things there that I hadn't read, I took it home. And it did indeed change my life. Brilliant book and more fun than three barrels of monkeys.

But you didn't specify which translation Mully should get. There's the Grove Press edition translated by Mirra Ginsberg, with the text as censored by the Soviet authorities, which I'm told is more accurate linguistically but somewhat staid, missing the tone almost completely. Michael Glenny's translation of the complete text was the one I originally read and loved; it includes the full text, and has more of the dash and verve of the book. I have heard others say that Glenny's translation betrays a lack of intimate familiarity with life in Moscow in the 1920s. For many years, these were the two choices. However, there are now two more, only one of which I have read: Diane Burgin and Kathleen Tiernan O'Connor's Vintage Classics edition. I think this is my favorite, and since it's an annotated edition, is probably the best place for someone not reasonably well versed in Soviet history to start. There's a Penguin edition that Amazon's showing as not yet available even though the expected pub. date was in February -- apparently this translation, by Richard Pevear and Larissa Volokhonsky, has been available overseas for a while; obviously, I have no experience of this one.

Which one do you prefer?

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Old 04-21-2000, 10:01 AM
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Uke:

Is there a reliable and comprehensible work out there that'll get me up to speed on what's going on with the IMF, WTO and the as yet still amorphous bands of hooters and hollerers?

Thanks for the efforts, Ike.
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Old 04-21-2000, 10:02 AM
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Jesus, Unc is going to think I'm having too much fun here and ask the mods to close the thread...

Cristi: Do you know Karen Armstrong's A HISTORY OF GOD? It's a very intelligent history and commentary on the three Western monotheistic religions, from the Jews' transformation of pagan idol worship to the rise of Islam, through the Enlightenment to the modern age, and how the three affect each other.

ValerieBlaise: How about Henry Adams' classic of travel, history, and reportage, MONT SAINT MICHEL AND CHARTRES? "A frolic power unusual to historic literature," said William James.

NothingMan: You like Arthurian fantasy? Go for Lewis Spence's HERO TALES AND LEGENDS OF THE RHINE. First published in 1915, it's one of the best samplings of Teutonic folklore, recounting the lives and deeds of a host of mythic figures...Siegfried and Brunhild, the Jester of Heidelberg, Tannhauser, Lorelei. Makes a nice comparison and contrast to Brit fantasy, but is similar enough that you'll enjoy it in the same vein. And as a bonus, you'll be able to understand Wagner's operas!
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Old 04-21-2000, 10:18 AM
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Kat: Joseph Roth. THE RADETZKY MARCH. One of the best 20th century German novels, right up there with Thomas Manna dn Robert Musil. Set in the pre-War Austro-Hungarian Empire. Nadine Gordimer called it a masterpiece. Read it yet?

Narile: TV series tie-ins? Pfah. What do you take me for? Read BLACK EMPIRE by George Schuyler, the Harlem Renaissance journalist/satirist. Written in the 1930s, it's a fantastic utopia novel in which the African-American mastermind Dr. Henry Belsidus schemes to liberate the continent of Africa and subjugate the white and yellow races beneath his somewhat Nazi-like boot heel. Pulpy, but in the GOOD way.

mazirian: Funny, eh? Donald E. Westlake. Any of the Dortmunder series. THE HOT ROCK was the first, WHAT'S THE WORST THAT COULD HAPPEN? is the most recent. Comic caper novels about a crook with just the most miserable luck. Not only as funny as hell, but as carefully plotted and crafted as anything in crime fiction today. You'll marvel at how the story's working out between snickering.
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ultress: Richard Rovere's HOWE & HUMMEL: THEIR TRUE AND SCANDALOUS HISTORY. Between 1869 and 1907, H&H was the most successful and notorious criminal law office in the city of New York. They defended over a thousand people indicted for murder, and had a monopoly of the rest of crook business in NYC as well. Their courtroom methods were outrageous, and their client list included P.T. Barnum, John L. Sullivan. Lillian Russell, and Marm Mandelbaum, the queen of New York's underworld. Nicely written history, too...it originally appeared as a serial in THE NEW YORKER.

Billdo: Once considered the best American novel to come out of World War One, William March's COMPANY K is now almost forgotten. The book consists of 113 sketches, or chapters, tracing the fictional company's exploits and providing an emotional history of its soldiers. Gut-wrenching stuff, told by a trench veteran. The University of Alabama Press has it back in print.

Eve: I simply do NOT trust the mails. Howzabout I return your belongings at the next NYC Round Table and Beer Blast? That would be (checks appointment book) either the SwimmingRiddles, pldennison, or SqrlCub party...
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SwimmingRiddles: Quirky AND philosophical. Take Italo Calvino's INVISIBLE CITIES. It's sunset, and Kubla Khan is conversing with the young Marco Polo about the evolution of the universe...characters are created out of mathematical formulae and simple cellular structures...Prospero waves his magic wand. The Empire is ending.
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rackensack: Yeah, I read the Glenny translation first, too. Can't say it bothered me any, but I re-read it in the Burgin/O'Connor and seemed to enjoy it more. So that's the one I recommend to folks (although it may be the fact that it was a second reading that influenced my enjoyment).

I've also heard that the Ginsberg translation bites the wax tadpole. Mullinator, avoid that one like the very plague!
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rackensack: Lessee....you have excellent taste in literature, as you revere McTEAGUE and THE MASTER AND MARGARITA...Have you ever tried THE OLD WIVES' TALE? I think it's Arnold Bennett's best novel. 1908 English realism, with superb, almost Dickensian characters. And as a bonus, the best description of a guillotining ever written.

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Ike, thanks a bunch! Berners looks like exactly what I'm in the mood for. I think I'll save Blackwood for autumn when I get in my creepy mode.


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Very good Ike. I'll make sure I pick it up. Sounds just like my cup of tea.

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