In this thread, Avalonian and some others are taking great umbrage that conservatives don’t want to talk about the issues with Dean. AFAICT, “refusing to talk about the issues” means anything other than accusing Bush of the usual malfeasances, ranging from lying about Iraq to being ahead in the polls.
With dauntless optimism, I am assuming that they will be able to discuss “the issues” without immediately and determinedly reverting to the usual “Bush lied!” that seems to sum up that side of the campaign so far on the SDMB.
(Cites are from www.deanforamerica.com unless otherwise linked.)
The Bush tax cuts amount to about $48 billion a year for the next ten years.
Dean has promised to eliminate the cuts. Assuming that all the tax increase will go to reducing the deficit, we now have a deficit of roughly $450 billion per year.
He has also promised
So the deficit will go back to $500 billion per year (according to his website).
Dean will also increase spending on Homeland Security.
So the deficit goes to $505B.
Dean seems to want two things at once, in that he says
As well as
So apparently he wants to attract and keep more businesses in America by increasing their taxes. Go figure.
I will assume for the moment that going in two directions like this will not achieve anything, and that any increase in corporate taxes will be offset by lost businesses. And vice versa, any change in business retention will be offset by tax shelters and so forth. So this won’t affect the deficit, at least in theory.
He also wants to increase spending on Medicare drug benefits, which he says don’t cover enough people.
http://iowa.deanforamerica.com/node/view/1295
So we aren’t going to save any money there. A rough but
conservative guess would be, what, a further $10 billion per year? $20 billion? Let’s be safe and guess $10 billion. Now the deficit is $515 billion per year.
Make the same guess about Social Security, about which he says,
He won’t raise the retirement age, either -
- so this is going to cost more. Make another guess - $40 billion.
Now the deficit is $555 billion a year.
Add to that the rest of his spending proposals - so far - such as
No figures on how much he will increase it, so I won’t make a guess.
He is going to set up another branch of the Small Business
Administration to lend more money - he says that small business in America needs $140 billion dollars in loans. But he only wants to cover a billion of that. No figures again, so let’s ignore that as irrelevant, neither helping nor hurting the deficit.
This after increasing the deficit by $55B per year, and raising taxes.
So the issue I would like to discuss is, is it that Dean can’t count, or that he is hoping that I can’t count? Even based on what he is willing to admit to, there is no chance that he can do anything good for the economy.
Regards,
Shodan