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Natural selection is not a “thing” upon which, well, anything can act. Especially not “itself”. It is a shorthand for statistical probabilities; it is the sum total of all external forces, events, conditions and happenstances which affect the relative frequencies of gene alleles within a population. As such, there’s really no way for natural selection to feedback on itself (keeping in mind there is neither an “it” nor a “self” involved…) to make itself faster / more efficient / whatever.
Remember that natural selection is simply an analogous process to artificial selection. Except, instead of humans selecting individuals based on traits which we desire, nature is “selecting” organisms based on traits which are most advantageous to themselves. Advantages and disadvantages are translated into likelihoods of success or failure in terms of passing one’s genes on to subsequent generations. Regardless how populations evolve under the scrutiny of NS, NS will still operate in the same way.
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Generally, yes. I mispoke, and had meant “evolution,” not specifically natural selection. However, under some definitions, I wouldn’t agree that natural selection cannot change.
For example, (and this is hypothetical) what happens if a species evolves to be intelligent enough to look at each other and have an idea of who is fit and who isn’t. At first, this may start out very simply as the animals which look healthy and well-featured attract more mates (although, even at that point, the process has gotten pretty sophisticated). However, with further advancement, the overall process may honestly resemble artificial selection more than natural.
Now, since natural selection isn’t usually defined as only being powered by survival until reproduction (or by some other narrowly-delineated mechanism), it really isn’t clear that you have the right to claim there to be a very sharply drawn line against improvements to natural selection.
To argue more effectively with an example, humans in times of little food are more likely to think plumpness to be attractive. While natural selection for even blind organisms would push towards the energy-stockpiling adaptation, the process has been improved and has gotten faster because of the evolution of our brains along with the instincts which make us think that way.
Who knows, maybe we should start changing our definitions. But for now, let’s not start arguing from them. Actually, let’s not ever argue from definitions (even though it’s so easy and seductively straightforward). If taken too far, all it does is let strictness of language limit the reach of thought.
[QUOTE=Excalibur]
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And you would be wrong to think that. Australopithecines had brains much more akin to those of chimps than humans, and yet they walked upright.
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Australopithecines were smarter than chimps and could walk better than them. Chimps and other apes can walk too, but they’re also very smart. Other animals sometimes stand up in the wild, but very few are able to walk far before falling over (at least without lots of training). If you say humans train themselves for walking, then try watching the olympics and seeing what trained humans are really capable of (to compare effectively).
You can’t build a segway with a pocket calculator. You need brains for these things (bipedalism and movement precision).
Man, what’d you do? Wake up on the smartass side of the bed?