Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-04-2006, 09:33 PM
panache45's Avatar
panache45 is offline
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: NE Ohio (the 'burbs)
Posts: 42,929

Oscar Wilde and . . . who?

We all know about Oscar Wilde's Famous Last Words: "Either that wallpaper goes or I do."

But who was in the room to hear him say it, and to tell posterity what he had said?
Old 12-04-2006, 09:43 PM
samclem is offline
Graphite is a great
Charter Member
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Akron, Ohio
Posts: 26,202
The best evidence is contained in Fred Shapiro's wonderful new The Yale Book of Quotations, just released and the most authoritative book on quotations. He backs them up with facts.

The operative phrase is
Decidedly one of us will have to go.
This was quoted in a 1975 biography.

But, it was a variant of a quote from 1908, a letter from William Butler Yeats to Lady Gregory.
A friend of Oscar Wilde...told me a strange and heroic thing about Wilde...He was in great poverty, often with no money for food & had declared that it was his wall paper that was killing him. 'One of us has to go' he said."
So, the deathbed quote is probably apocryphal, but the sentiment was there all along.
Old 12-05-2006, 12:50 AM
PBear42 is offline
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 1,364
Sorry, no cite, but what I read a few years ago (legitimate bio, just don't remember title or author) was that the "wallpaper" quip was made a couple weeks before Wilde died, to a friend (identified in the source the cite for which I can no longer recall) he ran into on the streets of Paris. As I recall, the same source gave as Wilde's last words, "Alas, I'm dying beyond my means."
Old 12-05-2006, 06:31 PM
bonzer is offline
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: NW5
Posts: 3,173
Richard Ellmann's 1987 biography (Hamish Hamilton; Penguin, 1988, p546) attributes the best source for the joke as Claire de Pratz, the correspondent of Le Petit Parisien and Daily News, who came to know him in his last few months in Paris.
In this version, on 29th October Wilde was sufficiently robust that he was able to take a walk in the evening, during the course of which she reported that he said to her "My wallpaper and I are fighting a duel to the death. One or the other of us has to go." He doesn't actually die until a month later.
Ellmann's source for de Pratz's account is an article "Souvenirs inédits" by Guillot de Saix on p141 of an undated edition of L'Européen. (The point that Ellmann is citing an article seems to have confused people in the past.)
Old 12-05-2006, 07:43 PM
twhitt is offline
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Illinois, USA
Posts: 267
What was so bad about the wallpaper?
Old 12-05-2006, 09:27 PM
Civil Guy is offline
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Southern California
Posts: 1,638
I dunno, but everyone who's seen it is dead, probably.
Old 12-06-2006, 12:54 AM
PBear42 is offline
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 1,364
Thanks, bonzer. That sounds very much like the passage I read, though it may have been another bio which borrowed/repeated the anecdote.

As for what was so bad about the walllpaper: nothing. It won.
Old 12-06-2006, 01:44 PM
bonzer is offline
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: NW5
Posts: 3,173
Originally Posted by twhitt
What was so bad about the wallpaper?
Well, the wallpaper in the room with the deathbed is visible in the background of the photograph of the body taken by Maurice Gilbert. That can be seen on this page, though it's better reproduced in Ellmann's book.
Looks like some sort of floral design, possibly chinoiserie influenced. An entirely ordinary specimen of wallpaper for the period. Which may, of course, have been exactly what Wilde was objecting to about it.
Old 12-06-2006, 03:15 PM
teela brown is online now
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Almost Silicon Valley
Posts: 9,470
Originally Posted by twhitt
What was so bad about the wallpaper?
Tony Bourdain, in his series No Reservations and in the episode in which he visited Paris, stayed in the room in which Oscar Wilde died. They showed the room's wallpaper, and although they must have certainly changed it since those days, it was certainly a livid and intimidating wallpaper. It is a lurid deep absinthe green with intertwining grotesque peacocks in a belle epoche style.

Assuming it is in the same or nearly the same pattern as back then, and assuming one drank large quantities of absinthe, I can see the paper giving one the paranoid heebie-jeebies.


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:50 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

Send questions for Cecil Adams to:

Send comments about this website to:

Terms of Use / Privacy Policy

Advertise on the Straight Dope!
(Your direct line to thousands of the smartest, hippest people on the planet, plus a few total dipsticks.)

Copyright © 2018 STM Reader, LLC.

Copyright © 2017