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Old 02-03-2013, 12:07 AM
Reyemile Reyemile is offline
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Point blanc gun standoff

It's a classic scene in a movie. I am facing an enemy within arms reach. The two of us are at a standoff, guns pointed at one another's heads at point blank range.

In the movies, the two of us slowly, slowly back off, then simultaneously dive for cover and resume our shotoff at a later date.

However, it seems to me that the easier thing to do is pull the trigger. Here's where the factual question comes in:

If shot in the face, is there any way my opponent shoots back? Are human reflexes fast enough to pull the trigger in the split second between my finger twitching and the bullet enters his brain? Could getting shot in the head make his hand clench reflexively in a way that would fire a weapon?

Or would I in all likelihood walk away with not more damage than a brain-splattered coat?
Old 02-03-2013, 12:22 AM
DataX DataX is offline
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Well you would have to be more specific than just the face or brain. Humans have lived with bullets in/through their brain - and some suicide victims have shot themselves in the head multiple times.

In theory - I have read that if you hit the brain stem - there is no chance that the person will fire the gun, that all control is severed. If that is true - I don't think reaction time will be an issue.

You'd of course have to be (or would want to be) 100% sure you can hit whatever zone is required to cause this instant capacitation. Or actually maybe not 100% sure as from a game theory perspective - it seems like it would be a bad idea to risk being on the other side of a shot. But if you want to avoid this situation - you'd probably want to know the right place to aim...
Old 02-03-2013, 12:26 AM
zoid zoid is offline
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Plus bodies tend to jerk when shot.
If someone had their finger on the trigger of a gun pointed point-blank at my head I'm not sure I would want them convulsing.
Old 02-03-2013, 11:02 PM
usedtobe usedtobe is offline
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Driver's Ed said 2/10ths of a second for your brain to decipher what your eye sends (in that case, the brake lights of the car you're tailgating).

If you are pointing a gun at my head, I will be watching your finger muscles REAL close, and will fire as soon as I see your metatarsals start to contract. This means you need to pull trigger real fast - which generally causes you to twist your wrist, throwing off your aim.

Maybe you should just back off slowly while keeping both hands in firing position and a sharp eye on finger muscles.
Old 02-03-2013, 11:58 PM
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Old 02-04-2013, 12:22 AM
Chronos Chronos is offline
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The noir gun standoffs are more dangerous, anyway.
Old 02-04-2013, 01:11 AM
tellyworth tellyworth is offline
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The only rational thing to do in that situation is shoot the other person as soon as possible. (Unless you're willing to die)

If you wait for the other guy to start moving his finger before you react, you're already too late.

Last edited by tellyworth; 02-04-2013 at 01:13 AM. Reason: qualifier
Old 02-04-2013, 10:57 AM
Quercus Quercus is offline
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Originally Posted by Chronos View Post
The noir gun standoffs are more dangerous, anyway.
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