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Old 07-05-2014, 04:07 PM
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Jewish Performers in Rock and Roll/R&B

The following definition, courtesy of that rigorous Talmudic site, Jewornotjew, is a helpful start, but need not be followed, unless anybody feels like it.

Me, I just want to up some K numbers in unusual professions, based on whatever the remotest link or unsubstantiated guess can be made, like in sports, or even (weirdly, as some modern Jews will do), in gangster history.
[The...] I Score tends to refer to birth history with some adjustments for how we imagine they see/saw themselves. The O Score is for how Jewish they look and act. The K Score stands for Kvell (pride) and is subject to the whims of the creators of this website. Each score ranges from 0 to 5.

Big Zimmy is out.

So far, I got:

Kinky Friedman (presumably and all his Texas Jewboys)
Billy Joel
That guy from Kiss, who's born in Israel, I think (doesn't he have a Ph.D., or something?)
Paul Butterfield
Carole King


ETA: I could scour the above mentioned site, or see what Wiki has, but that's no fun. They can be consulted when fistfights break out.

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Old 07-05-2014, 04:52 PM
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I generally don't keep track of such things, but I do know that for Kiss, it should be "those guys from Kiss" since both Gene Simmons (Chaim Witz) and Paul Stanley (Stanley Bert Eisen) are ethnically Jewish. The only reason I know/remember this is that I've heard rumors that the perennial split between the members has been divided along those lines.
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Old 07-05-2014, 04:53 PM
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The lingo in your OP is a bit incomprehensible ... but here's something I just read the other day about Dave Mustaine of MegaDeth / Metallica. Also, David Lee Roth of Van Halen and I read somewhere (in a Slate article or something) that lots of early punk musicians were Jewish.
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Old 07-05-2014, 05:04 PM
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Mike Bloomfield was Jewish.
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Old 07-05-2014, 05:27 PM
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Les Paul.

Peter Green(baum)

Why not Dylan/Zimmerman?

Doc Pomus, the songwriter. Ellie Greenwich. Neil Diamond.
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Old 07-05-2014, 05:45 PM
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Marc Bolan
Perry Farrell
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Old 07-05-2014, 05:56 PM
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Mick Jones of the Clash
Lou Reed
Howard Kaylan & Mark Volman (The Turtles, Flo & Eddie)
Derek, Ray, and Phil Shulman of Gentle Giant
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Old 07-05-2014, 05:57 PM
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Lenny Kravitz

And, of course, Adam Sandler

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Old 07-05-2014, 06:00 PM
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Here's a lengthy list. It's a little TOO complete as a "rock" list (Andrew Dice Clay? Benny Goodman?).

Obvious names not yet mentioned:

Simon & Garfunkel
Slash

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Old 07-05-2014, 06:07 PM
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That guy from Kiss, who's born in Israel, I think (doesn't he have a Ph.D., or something?)
I don't think so but I understand they call him Dr. Love.

Steely Dan's Donald Fagen and Walter Becker are both Jewish.

If Adam Sandler is to be trusted, you can add Sammy Davis Jr. who evidently converted and Bowzer from Sha Na Na.
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Old 07-05-2014, 06:54 PM
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Why not Dylan/Zimmerman?
I'm guessing because of his becoming a born-again Christian.

Anyways, more Jewish rockers from "The Book of Rock Lists":

The Beastie Boys (Ad-Rock, Mike D and MCA)
Leonard Cohen
Billy Joel
Al Kooper
Manfred Mann (the keyboardist, not the whole band)
Phil Ochs
Joey Ramone
Rick Rubin
Phil Spector
Chris Stein of Blondie
Leslie West of Mountain
Peter Wolf of the J. Geils Band
Zal Yanovsky of the Lovin' Spoonful
Warren Zevon
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I can't believe no one has mentioned Geddy Lee of Rush.
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Old 07-05-2014, 07:05 PM
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I would have said Al Yankovich, but apparently not.
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Old 07-05-2014, 07:27 PM
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Scott Ian of Anthrax's real full name is Scott Ian Rosenfeld. And he's from New York.
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Old 07-05-2014, 07:28 PM
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I can't believe no one has mentioned Geddy Lee of Rush.
Seriously.

Exhibit A: real name is Gary Lee Weinrib.

Exhibit B: he's so Jewish his grandma pronounced his first name "Geddy," which is why he goes by that to this day.
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Old 07-05-2014, 07:29 PM
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I wouldn't call her a rock performer, but Paula Abdul is Jewish.
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Old 07-05-2014, 07:44 PM
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Eric Bloom, lead singer of Blue Oyster Cult
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Old 07-05-2014, 07:46 PM
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Mark Knopfler of Dire Straits

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Old 07-05-2014, 07:47 PM
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Scott Ian of Anthrax's real full name is Scott Ian Rosenfeld. And he's from New York.
How could I forget him? He was in my high school graduating class (Bronx Science)!
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Elvis' favorite songwtiters, Lieber and Stoller.

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Old 07-05-2014, 08:46 PM
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Isn't Drake Jewish?
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Old 07-05-2014, 09:03 PM
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The lingo in your OP is a bit incomprehensible ... but here's something I just read the other day about Dave Mustaine of MegaDeth / Metallica.
While he's of Jewish descent, he apparently became rather anti-Semitic after becoming born again, so he's an...interesting example.

His former bandmate, Marty Friedman, is a less problematic example.
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Old 07-05-2014, 09:12 PM
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Sunshine, Lollipops and

Lesley Gore, the former Lesley Sue Goldstein.
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Old 07-05-2014, 09:41 PM
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Barry Goldberg, who put out an album with Mike Bloomfield called "Two Jew Blues."
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Old 07-05-2014, 11:41 PM
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Despite having the name Saul, I don't think Slash is actually Jewish.
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Old 07-05-2014, 11:54 PM
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...Why not Dylan/Zimmerman?....
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I'm guessing because of his becoming a born-again Christian...
OP here. I slotted Big Bob thinking he wasn't a rocker, not because of whoseaJewness.

You have to remember, to play Jewish Geography (aka Jew of the Week) the slightest, most remote connection unto the umpteenth descendant and religious conversion is enough for a quotient of pride multiplied by surprise value. Eg, I think that weird actress from Fight Club and The King's Speech, with the fancy sounding name I can't remember now, is one gajillionth Jewish, and that was almost worth a phone call to my friend. Then there's cases like NYC's Cardinal O'Connor, which was Jew of the Year, at least.

I forgot to start the list with someone who made me think of posting to begin with:

Phillip Kohn, Curved Air.

I never heard of him or his band but I enjoy his cigar posts with tales of sex and drugs appended; he's a good writer and a Jew with 'tude.

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Old 07-06-2014, 01:36 AM
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Dylan not a rocker?

As Lazlo Toth would say, it's a mandate! You can call it anything you want, you're the President!
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Old 07-06-2014, 01:51 AM
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Old 07-06-2014, 09:38 AM
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Doors guitarist Robby Krieger.

Punk rocker Richard Hell (ne Klein)
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Old 07-06-2014, 09:57 AM
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Guitarist Trevor Rabin, the main songwriter of the Eighties version of Yes, is a Jewish South African.

There's also Gavin Rossdale of Bush.
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Old 07-06-2014, 10:11 AM
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Mickey Hart of the Grateful Dead
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Jorma Kaukonen of the Jefferson Airplane had a Finnish Dad and a Jewish Mom... which makes him Jewish by traditional Judaic standards.
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Sadly, the Jews have to take "Credit" for some real duds, too.

Like Michael Bolton
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Old 07-06-2014, 03:40 PM
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Jeff Tweedy of Wilco just recently converted to Judaism. His wife and children already are and now he is as well. My cite is that I belong to the same temple as they do.

Steven Page, formerly of Barenaked Ladies, is also Jewish.

And no mention of Matisyahu yet?

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Paul Kossoff, lead guitarist of Free 9"All Right Now").

I THINK Jethro Tull's original lead guitarist, Mick Abrahams, was Jewish.
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Sadly, the Jews have to take "Credit" for some real duds, too.

Like Michael Bolton
Yes, but when you pair him with two more Jews (Akiva Schaffer and Andy Samberg), you get pure magic.
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She's not exactly rock 'n roll - more folk/anti-folk - but Regina Spektor came to mind.
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Old 07-06-2014, 09:08 PM
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Max Wein-something (gotta be, right?) Springsteen drummer, talk-show bandleader
Whoever did Spirit in the Sky, also European-Jewish name, I think

I love that song. Told my wife (but haven't put it in writing...yet) that at my funeral service, even with a Rabbi of any sorts, at the very beginning, all stand, all dead quiet, then that song. Especially the more Orthodoxyish the service.

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Beastie Boys.

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Old 07-06-2014, 09:17 PM
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I generally don't keep track of such things, but I do know that for Kiss, it should be "those guys from Kiss" since both Gene Simmons (Chaim Witz) and Paul Stanley (Stanley Bert Eisen) are ethnically Jewish. The only reason I know/remember this is that I've heard rumors that the perennial split between the members has been divided along those lines.
Wait, what? Coincidentally or consequently?
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Max Wein-something (gotta be, right?) Springsteen drummer, talk-show bandleader
Whoever did Spirit in the Sky, also European-Jewish name, I think

I love that song. Told my wife (but haven't put it in writing...yet) that at my funeral service, even with a Rabbi of any sorts, at the very beginning, all stand, all dead quiet, then that song. Especially the more Orthodoxyish the service.
Max Weinberg
Norman Greenbaum

Both confirmed Jews, at least by upbringing, I believe. I don't know what they profess(ed) as adults.
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My Jew playlist on Spotify goes by Jewish geography rules and includes songs written and/or performed by Jews. RHCP when Hillel Slovak was part of the lineup and covering a Dylan song counts either way. It also includes Leonard Cohen, Porno for Pyros, Jefferson Airplane, Amy Winehouse, J. Geils Band, The Ramones, Warren Zevon, Peaches, and Hole, among others. (Some but not all of those have been mentioned.)

EDIT: I see we have other Peglegs here...

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How did we manage to get this far without a mention of Adam Levine?
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Wait, what? Coincidentally or consequently?
Coincidentally I think. As I heard it, Simmons and Stanley were friends beforehand (to which their both being Jewish may have some relevance), cooked up the concept of Kiss - the makeup and everything - between them, and then recruited other musicians to actually make up the band. There was ongoing resentment because Simmons and Stanley remained close, and had a tendency to treat the others like employees, despite their making a considerable musical contribution (well, if you can call Kiss music .)
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Neil Diamond, "The Jewish Elvis"
Paul Schaffer, the original keyboardist for the Blues Brothers, among his other accomplishments (Letterman, SNL)
Max Weinberg, drummer for Springsteen and bandleader for Conan O'Brien's first late show

Not interested in any cavils about how they're "not really Rock."
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The band 10cc was led by British Invasion veteran Graham Gouldman (he wrote the Yardbirds' "Heart Full of Soul" and the Hollies' "Bus Stop") and future video pioneers Lol Creme and Kevin Godley.

All three of them were Jewish.

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