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Old 06-25-2017, 10:04 PM
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Preacher, Season 2 Thread, Open Spoilers


After the first post anyway.
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Old 06-25-2017, 10:05 PM
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Man, that was bloody, gory violent.
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Old 06-26-2017, 07:07 AM
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Siphoning gas through a dead man's intestine is pretty bad ass!
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Old 06-26-2017, 09:55 AM
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Well except;

1> What did she siphon FROM?
2> It apparently took her about 30 seconds or less
3> They never got gas at the gas station - they didn't even pull up to the pumps
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Old 06-26-2017, 11:54 AM
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Logistics and impossible time frames don't matter! What matters is, that was bad ass! And she's super hot!

(I was trying to figure out how she possibly had the time and cover to do that, but was distracted by her being hot.)
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Old 06-27-2017, 10:27 AM
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I sure hope someone remembered to free Ashley before the saint of sinners showed up.
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I don't know if you all realize this, but apparently there was another episode last night. I'll have to watch it tonight.
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Old 06-27-2017, 01:54 PM
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I realize the gas station guy was under the effects of Genesis, but damn, if that guy showed up in front of me, I'd say "That way, 45 seconds ago".
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Man, that was bloody, gory violent.
That was Sesame Street compared to Blood Drive.
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That was Sesame Street compared to Blood Drive.
I've never heard of this show until you mentioned it. What is it like? Do you like it?
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I realize the gas station guy was under the effects of Genesis, but damn, if that guy showed up in front of me, I'd say "That way, 45 seconds ago".
I think he really, really wanted to, but had to pretend they were never there.
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I've never heard of this show until you mentioned it. What is it like? Do you like it?
It's mindless snuff porn, basically. I started a thread about it and didn't get a single reply!

I guess nobody's watching it.

I'm only 2 episodes in. It's a lot like Preacher. Goofy, cartoony sex and violence.
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Old 07-05-2017, 11:55 AM
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Episode 2 was brilliant, for two basic reasons:

1) More fun and games with the "die and reappear" superpower, following on from the great Sundowner fight. One wonders what they're doing with all those bodies.

2) You just know - know - that so much of this episode was driven by Sam Catlin going "Wait - what if I set it in an Indian casino but the other kind of Indian?"
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Didn't even realize the season had started up! Caught up on DVR tonight.

Assorted thoughts;

* Now that I've had a chance to read some of the comics, I'm catching the Easter eggs they've thrown in, such as the poster of Bill Hicks in Fiore's dressing room, or the treasure chest in the fishtank when Cassidy asks about Jesse's mother's family.

* The music choices have been spot-on so far. Never thought I'd hear "Come On Eileen" set to a car chase, but it worked.

* God damn, the Saint of Killers is menacing.

* If you pay attention to the timeline, there's only about 36 hours between when Fiore shows up at the casino and his becoming famous enough to have a TV commercial, a cheering section with matching ponchos, and Make-a-Wish kids visiting him.

* Losing Deblanc must have really broken Fiore. I wonder if that black-and-white photo of them in Egypt was supposed to be a wedding portrait? The implication that there's somewhere angels go when they die is interesting.

* Did Cassidy have sex with Fiore at the end of their snowball party? It certainly seemed to be implied when they were talking about foreskins, he gave Cassidy a look, and the timer popped up.

* Loved the payoff to the very first bartender Jesse talks to knowing where "God" is.

* The Grail's plan to get intel on Jesse was unbelievably convoluted. They would have had to know he'd come to New Orleans, ask just the right bartender for a tip about meeting God, and that he'd follow up on that tip alone without Cassidy or Tulip on hand so that he could fall for their agent-disguised-as-a-dancer and use Genesis to stop her from being abducted. It's also kind of odd that the singer told Jesse the truth about the guys who were (supposedly) trying to kidnap her.

* Hell must have a pretty inept bureaucracy if they put the innocent kid who's there by accident in the same cellblock as Hitler.

* Why does Hitler speak English?
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I love Noah Taylor in pretty much everything but my reaction to seeing him was "Really? Really??? We are genuinely doing the Hitler thing here?"

Still, with this show there's no telling where they're going with it.
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After last night's episode I'm dying to see the rest of Hitler's version of Hell.....
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Old 07-13-2017, 07:31 AM
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After last night's episode I'm dying to see the rest of Hitler's version of Hell.....
I liked Arseface's incredulity. "That's your worst memory?" Hitler's worst memory is an awkward lunch date?!?
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I had a feeling that his art was going to be harshly critiqued.
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Old 07-13-2017, 08:49 AM
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Well dang it! Season 2 isn't up on Hulu yet.
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Old 07-14-2017, 03:48 AM
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Fun fact: the actor playing Mark Harelik? Mark Harelik.
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Old 07-14-2017, 07:28 PM
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I liked Arseface's incredulity. "That's your worst memory?" Hitler's worst memory is an awkward lunch date?!?
I have a feeling the encounter with the Jewish man may have gone a little different in the real life version, making the introduction to the art dealer a little more awkward. But the machine broke down before we saw the rest of it.

It came across as Hitler having remorse and actually changing himself in Hell, making him slightly sympathetic before the beat down.

But that is how some versions of Hell work. You can redeem yourself there.
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Are we supposed to guess who those other characters in Hell are? Anybody got any ideas?
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It came across as Hitler having remorse and actually changing himself in Hell, making him slightly sympathetic before the beat down.
You have to admire the writing involved to make Hitler the most sympathetic character in Hell.

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Are we supposed to guess who those other characters in Hell are? Anybody got any ideas?
Most people in Hell will not be famous. There are probably plenty of generic bullies of the same sort we see here.

That said, is one of the characters supposed to be a Stone Age human? He seems a little... primitive.
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Old 07-18-2017, 03:38 PM
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Yeah but by movie logic, it's a little weird that the most famous hell denizon happens to be in the cellblock and all the rest are no name bullies.

Maybe the Stone Age man is Cain?
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There's an Australian movie called Road Kill or (Road Train) and that movie already used human blood as fuel for the semi truck.

Blood Drive is nothing new haha.
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Is it just me, or does the second season somewhat lack a clear direction? I kind of still find myself waiting for things to really get started, while the characters sort of muddle around without really knowing what to do. I mean, just what was the point of the interlude with Tulip's mobster hubby? I'm not sure we're not in pretty much the same place afterwards as we were before.
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Is it just me, or does the second season somewhat lack a clear direction? I kind of still find myself waiting for things to really get started, while the characters sort of muddle around without really knowing what to do. I mean, just what was the point of the interlude with Tulip's mobster hubby? I'm not sure we're not in pretty much the same place afterwards as we were before.
I think the season so far has revealed just how dark Preacher can go and has now completely explained Tulip's and his baggage.


They're on a road trip to find a jazz loving God. I personally don't expect a real detective adventure story. Maybe they have to find themselves before they find God? Now please forget I just said that sappy line.
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Is it just me, or does the second season somewhat lack a clear direction? I kind of still find myself waiting for things to really get started, while the characters sort of muddle around without really knowing what to do. I mean, just what was the point of the interlude with Tulip's mobster hubby? I'm not sure we're not in pretty much the same place afterwards as we were before.
Partly it's a hook for the Dallas backstory.

Partly it's character development for all three: Tulip's emotional depth, Jesse's violent streak, and particularly Cassidy's willingness to lie and betray Jesse in order to have a shot at Tulip (which I suspect will be a growing theme).

Partly it continues the theme of confounding our expectations - Tulip, who we thought had the honest job and wanted a child was the one who lied and destroyed the relationship as opposed to Jesse the apparent drunken bum, and the big bad guy with the torture room was actually a loving husband and father who treated Tulip better than Jesse ever did.

Partly it brings the Saint back into the picture.

That's a lot of story development for one and a half episodes.
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WTF are the Japanese doing with souls? That's just weird. Do the graphic novels go into this soul-dealing more?
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Nah, neither souls nor Japanese are elements that occur in the novel. The tv series has precious little to do with the comics other than sharing the names of some of the characters.
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I liked Arseface's incredulity. "That's your worst memory?" Hitler's worst memory is an awkward lunch date?!?
I liked Hitler's incredulity when Arseface asked, "Are you... bad?"
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Is it just me, or does the second season somewhat lack a clear direction? I kind of still find myself waiting for things to really get started, while the characters sort of muddle around without really knowing what to do. I mean, just what was the point of the interlude with Tulip's mobster hubby? I'm not sure we're not in pretty much the same place afterwards as we were before.
I've been fine with it so far, since they've 1) dealt with the problem of the Saint of Killers, and 2) have been finding out some leads (God loves jazz, the fake god audition tape, etc.) I was feeling this last episode that they need to get out of New Orleans soon though. I suppose we'll see what happens with the Grail.

I agree that the plotline of Tulip's husband felt like a bit of a waste of time, though... I'm fine with some character backstory now and then, but I don't think it really told me anything new or interesting about Tulip. Except maybe filling in the gaps in that Tulip kept her criminal skills up while Jesse tried to make a change.
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WTF are the Japanese doing with souls?
Making a metric shit-ton of money. Buy at $150,000, sell at $2.7million IIRC. Even with overheads and what must have been some very pricy R&D that's a very tidy profit indeed when you add up all the souls in the all the cities they deal in.
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I do like the odd little bits of humor in the show. Like in the most recent episode, Cassidy was talking to Denis in that bar in New Orleans, except that Cassidy had no idea what Denis was saying. Some guy at the end of the bar sat up and announced, "Excuse me, I'm a French professor at Tulane, and you're completely missing what he's trying to tell you."
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Nah, neither souls nor Japanese are elements that occur in the novel. The tv series has precious little to do with the comics other than sharing the names of some of the characters.
Interesting to know. That was a question I was pondering.

I'm kind of turning against the show. It's not working for me anymore. When the "Flying Pig" showed up, I thought to myself, "Ah, Yeah. I get it. This is just the writers giving me the finger."
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Interesting to know. That was a question I was pondering.

I'm kind of turning against the show. It's not working for me anymore. When the "Flying Pig" showed up, I thought to myself, "Ah, Yeah. I get it. This is just the writers giving me the finger."
There's a part of me that agrees with you - this is now DVR, second nite material vs 'must watch commercials and all' - that being said - the rise of the white suit guy was some fantastic.

"I think you'll go places" (shoves him off the building then takes his seat). + the whole "Jesus in hiding" bit.
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As it turns out. Hilter IS evil.
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Anyone still watching?

Holy hell, that last episode was really out there.

Who knew Jesus was such a freak?

I think The Saint of Killers is a' comin' back, yessir!
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I think the last episode confirmed that God was in the dog suit.
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Ooh. Hadn't thought of that - great observation!
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Wait, it did? How did it do that?

And what was that "dog suit"? From the neck down, it looked like a guy with dots on him. But the head didn't look like a mask. It looked like the head of a dog. It was really weird.

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Wait, it did? How did it do that?
The 25th grandson of Jesus had alot of drawings/sketches of the dog suit thing.

This episode was much more true to form -
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OK, thanks. I missed that.
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a direct desc. of Jesus would be something like 50-60 generations removed. Inbreeding was also implied. Whatever that person was, his DNA barely resembles a Hebrew, let alone a desc. of Jesus.
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a direct desc. of Jesus would be something like 50-60 generations removed. Inbreeding was also implied. Whatever that person was, his DNA barely resembles a Hebrew, let alone a desc. of Jesus.
without debating this too much - its possible that the descendants are 'longer lived' than a normal generation as well as waited as 'long as possible' before breeding.

The real question is - why would there be any inbreeding required? its not like he would have a sister to impregnate (or a mother) - and there are likely plenty of 'Mary's to go around.
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The real question is - why would there be any inbreeding required? its not like he would have a sister to impregnate (or a mother) - and there are likely plenty of 'Mary's to go around.
I didn't understand the inbreeding part either. Did the mother of each generation need to be related somehow?

I agree that Humperdoo was drawing the dog from the New Orleans place.
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In the comic, Jesus had had two kids, a boy and a girl. The inbreeding was to keep the bloodline "Pure".
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Anyone still watching?
I thought I was! But I don't recognize a word from your post down. Did I miss an episode? Or was I drinking?

Anyway, I figured God was in the dog suit all along.
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I'm a few episodes into Season 2 now. I really enjoyed Season 1 and I was sorry to see all the minor characters get blowed up. There were some real gems, and of course Jackie Earle Haley is always a hoot.

Season 2 is okay so far, but I have to say I'm really sick of Jesse and Tulip's accents. They're not real, are they? After I post this I'll look up to she whether they're faking, but they seem so much of a Yankee's idea of what a Southerner talks like. It's really grating.
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And ... of course ... it's an Englishman and an Irishwoman. No freaking wonder. Ugh. Seriously? There wasn't anyone with better Texas accents?
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