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Old 06-27-2018, 10:20 PM
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A note from Cecil Adams about The Straight Dope


A note from Cecil Adams about The Straight Dope
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Old 06-27-2018, 10:23 PM
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The king is dead. Long live the SDMB.

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Old 06-27-2018, 10:29 PM
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Wow! Ed, that was beautiful, what you wrote -- I mean, what you printed at Cecil's request -- about the SDMB: its history, its purpose, its longevity, its uniqueness, its devoted membership.

Thanks for decades of wonderful mini-essays. You brought the spirit of Montaigne to the late 20th century age of urban free weekly newspapers, and managed to keep it going -- as relevant as ever -- deep into the early 21st century age of the Internet.

Taking longer than we thought? It will take forever. You'll always be a part of the process.
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Old 06-27-2018, 10:33 PM
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Thanks Ed, nice goodbye piece. And thank you very very much for all the columns over the years. "See the snow. It fornicates."

If the new Straight Dope book contained new work, I would be happy to buy a copy. A hard copy. In hardback even.

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Old 06-27-2018, 10:38 PM
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Old 06-27-2018, 10:51 PM
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Old 06-27-2018, 10:54 PM
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It's been said that Cecil Adams can never truly die, because if you kill him, you become him.

That being said, let's hope this board stays alive forever.
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Old 06-27-2018, 10:58 PM
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I bought my first Straight Dope book in The Coliseum Book Store on W. 57th St in NYC.
Musta been about....1987. I stood in the aisle laughing.
Hard.
Loudly.

I'm damned sad to see this day arrive.

Cecil and Slug.

Timeless...

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Old 06-27-2018, 11:03 PM
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Wow, that was a hard read. Thanks for all the years that intelligence was distributed to the masses, I've been a follower from the first time the SD appeared in our local alternative paper (age prevents me from remembering the name.)

I look forward to adding your next SD publication to my collection of worn-out past volumes.
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Old 06-27-2018, 11:09 PM
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It's been said that Cecil Adams can never truly die, because if you kill him, you become him.
"All men who repeat a line from Shakespeare, ARE Shakespeare."

-- Jorge Luis Borges
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Old 06-27-2018, 11:11 PM
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Oh, man. Say it ain't so!
I found the first book on a bench in an airport. I stole it and laughed all the way to Little Rock. I will buy the new book.
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I first came across The Straight Dope in the San Diego Reader nigh 1984 ... an island of common sense in a sea of liberal insanity ... since then it's been a must-read every Friday ...

Few in the comedy business last for so long ... Mark Twain, Dave Berry and now our Unca Cece ... a remarkable run, thank you ...

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i haz a sad.

Great job with the last column, tho. So long, and thanks for all the Straight Dope!
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Old 06-27-2018, 11:18 PM
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Used to check out the books from the library as a kid. Found this place through AOL.

I'm glad the SDMB will live on.
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Old 06-27-2018, 11:28 PM
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Cecil and Slug.
I understand that Slug is being sent to a farm upstate.
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I understand that Slug is being sent to a farm upstate.

I know what that means...
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I liked the lack of editing, gave it the authentic(?) touch. I hope this means more time to post on the boards (you know, under whatever name you prefer...)

But seriously, I appreciate all your work and guidance over the years, in particular your last column. Taking longer than we thought indeed - I still see the Prevegen ads and so does my father, who I have to occasionally convince that they're snake oil.

Have you considered hooking up with Obama?
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Maybe they'll just have a daily column he did say they haven't decided anything ..... although a q does that mean the new owner of the reader didn't want the dope?
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Old 06-28-2018, 02:20 AM
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Ummmm...


Regards,

Cecil Adams
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You don’t think - - naaahhh, couldn’t be.

It really couldn’t, could it?

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Old 06-28-2018, 02:35 AM
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My my my, how the time has flown.

Where else am I ever gonna learn the proper method of construction for a goat cannon?
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Old 06-28-2018, 03:20 AM
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I understand that Slug is being sent to a farm upstate.
Isn't that great? He'll get to run around and sketch all day with all the other happy artists! My mom told me that.
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Old 06-28-2018, 03:25 AM
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I bought my first Straight Dope book in The Coliseum Book Store on W. 57th St in NYC.
Musta been about....1987. I stood in the aisle laughing.
Hard.
Loudly.

I'm damned sad to see this day arrive.

Cecil and Slug.

Timeless...

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I got mine at a used book store in Tokyo sometime in either 1992 or 1993. The rest of my experience was the same as yours. Except, of coure, I'm sending this from a laptop.
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Old 06-28-2018, 03:36 AM
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Regards,

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You don’t think - - naaahhh, couldn’t be.

It really couldn’t, could it?

I doubt it, but it would be absolutely EPIC
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Old 06-28-2018, 04:35 AM
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Thanks for everything, Ed! Good luck on the next book.
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Old 06-28-2018, 05:07 AM
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A source of amusement and knowledge that became the seed for this great little community — tracing also where we looked for new and different things, from the free weeklies to the Web. These decades of Straigt Dope were an achievement to look back on proudly, and it had been a delight to have read and to have contributed to the column.

Good work, Ed. For sure would be picking up an eventual Complete Works of Cecil Adams.

JRD, citizen of the Dope.
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Old 06-28-2018, 05:30 AM
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45 years is a damn good run - thanks, I still re-read the treebooks, and I'm glad to know this forum will remain.
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Great run and I'll definitely miss the new columns. I'm extremely happy that the SDMB will live on, though.

Now that the run is done, can we get a definitive answer to the question of Cecil's singular existence? Ed and Cecil are different users on this board, and it's already known that Ed wasn't around at the beginning of the column. Plus, they had different columns on the website for a while. And, they have very different writing styles (IMO).

So, Ed, Cecil, mods, someone -- has Cecil Adams been the same person (left-handed Catholic, right?) from the beginning? And, please, I'm not interested in any speculation, no evidence one way or the other. As Joe Friday said, just the facts, ma'am.
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Old 06-28-2018, 08:19 AM
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So, Ed, Cecil, mods, someone -- has Cecil Adams been the same person (left-handed Catholic, right?) from the beginning?
Uncovering the first Cecil Adams
https://vimeo.com/133916143
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Old 06-28-2018, 08:43 AM
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Uncovering the first Cecil Adams
https://vimeo.com/133916143
Grrr. I can't see that where I am. What does it say?

You've been a mod for a while -- who have you met?
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It's an interview with Mike Lenehan, the first Cecil, relating how he was asked by his boss to start a Q&A column along the lines of one in a Phoenix paper called Owen's Need to Know.

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Old 06-28-2018, 09:16 AM
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Grrr. I can't see that where I am. What does it say?

You've been a mod for a while -- who have you met?
I'm not ECG, God knows, but I'll chime in. I've had dinner with Ed one-on-one a few years ago. Never met Cecil, though.

I've met many Dopers, including a few mods. An interesting bunch.
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As for me?

Got the book from my mom in 1987. Read it through and through and enjoyed reading columns to my college friends. Kept up with the column through the Washington City Paper while I lived there.

Found the site in 1999 and read things endlessly while at work. Registered in April 2000, just a few weeks before my first child was born. I recall seeing JillGat and Esprix - the first Dopers I truly noticed - and saying to myself, "They've got like 600 posts. How do they ever find the time?"

I've hosted epic Dopefest parties and attended others. Put out the call a few times when travelling for business and had dopers answer the call to go to dinner. Just last summer I hosted a few for an eclipse party.

Community. It's what sustains us.
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Old 06-28-2018, 09:31 AM
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I knew Cecil Adams was secretly a justice of the Supreme Court.
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When I asked Dexter a while back if there would be any more books, this wasn't what I had in mind.

Do you know how many copies of these books I've worn out? No, really, I'm asking, my memory's failing.
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Old 06-28-2018, 10:22 AM
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I was first introduced to the column, via the SDMB, back in early 2001 from a small mention on interesting websites in MacWorld magazine. I found myself binging on article after article and decided to join the boards right then. Since then, I've made some very good IRL friends from attending some Dopefests, and continue to find knowledge and entertainment on the boards.

And end of an era. I do hope the boards don't become neglected, after hanging around for 17 years, it would be odd to see it go and the community scatter.
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Ed, I've often been a critic, but that last column was well nigh perfect.

Now that you'll have so much more time on your hands you should start posting more on the boards. So we can knock you around properly.
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I have the first three Straight Dope books, will buy the fourth. I enjoyed the first Dope book so much and was thrilled when I found this forum! Thanks for all the good times, and look forward to the message board staying put. It is amazing how much time has gone by since.

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Do you know how many copies of these books I've worn out? No, really, I'm asking, my memory's failing.
Mine don't wear out-I give them away to friends all the time, then go back to Powell's Books to refresh my supply.
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When I asked Dexter a while back if there would be any more books, this wasn't what I had in mind.

Do you know how many copies of these books I've worn out? No, really, I'm asking, my memory's failing.
Hell, I wore out the copies on my Kindle.

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All good things come to an end.

At least I have all the books, including Little Ed's.
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I gave Ed's, "Know It All!" to one of my nieces some time back.

The next generation is primed.
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I am a proud owner of the books. This is probably the first online community I really felt a part of. I was around back in the AOL days. And though I have mostly drifted away lately, I'm still checking in.

*sigh*

I hope there is another book. I hope this message board lasts a lot longer. But whatever I hope, I KNOW that the good this place did will last a lot longer.
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Old 06-28-2018, 11:12 AM
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It's sad. One would have hoped that the new owners would have got the Straight Dope along with the Reader but the column stayed with the old owners who promptly closed it. It seems as if neither party wanted it and that's a bummer.

I just hope that the board isn't next. Who's going to be responsible for it now, make management decisions, etc? More to the point who's going to pay for its upkeep?
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