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Old 02-07-2017, 08:17 PM
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Why do people take cruise ship vacations over and over again?

Do they enjoy them that much?

Do they really give you a rest?

Does the 5k to 10k missing in your bank account hurt?

Do you like the staff waiting on you?

Do you lose money in the casino?

Do you really enjoy the modern huge cruise ship
experience with it's shopping malls and restaurants?

Is sex better at sea? Come on you can tell me that much, right?
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Old 02-07-2017, 08:20 PM
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Given that airplanes are much faster, the only reason to take a cruise ship instead is if you like the experience of being on one. So it makes sense that someone who likes being on a cruise ship would go on one over and over.

Some people even retire to a cruise ship.
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Old 02-07-2017, 08:28 PM
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Sleeping on a quiet ship over calm seas can be very restful... but yeah. Too expensive.
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Do they enjoy them that much?
I don't I'd qualify as "again and again" but I've been on a few and I'd go again.



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Do they really give you a rest?
Sure, if you want them to.

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Does the 5k to 10k missing in your bank account hurt?
I would say yes to this but i haven't had a bank account in over a decade. Also, you can do it for a lot less. Also, most of the cruises I've been on were gifts, which made the "worth it" factor very high.

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Do you like the staff waiting on you?
Sure, it's cool. But not anything I really care about

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Do you lose money in the casino?
Yes. Yes I did.

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Do you really enjoy the modern huge cruise ship
experience with it's shopping malls and restaurants?
Restaurants, yes. Shopping malls can all go to hell, on land OR sea (or air? space?)

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Is sex better at sea? Come on you can tell me that much, right?
Not sure about "better", but certainly more likely to happen.

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Old 02-07-2017, 08:33 PM
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Do they enjoy them that much?
I've only been on one cruise, but I would really like to go on another.

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Do they really give you a rest?
Absolutely. Not only are you away from your daily routine, but if you just want to sit out on your balcony and read, or lie in the sun by the pool all day, there's nothing stopping you.

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Does the 5k to 10k missing in your bank account hurt?
Well the one I went on was paid for, but I would consider it a good way to spend my saved up vacation fund.

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Do you like the staff waiting on you?
I don't remember much staff waiting on me, other than having general housekeeping service, and waiters in the fancier restaurants. I guess I liked it as much as I like going to a restaurant or staying in a hotel.

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Do you lose money in the casino?
No. I don't like to gamble, and never went to the casino.

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Do you really enjoy the modern huge cruise ship
experience with it's shopping malls and restaurants?
Yes! I love shopping, so the mall experience was great. Even though I didn't buy much, I enjoyed window shopping ( I felt the same way about the shopping arcades in the big Las Vegas hotels). I don't each much, so restaurants aren't that big a deal for me, but it was nice to have so much choice within easy reach, much of it at no additional charge.

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Is sex better at sea? Come on you can tell me that much, right?
I wish I could tell, but that was one experience I missed.
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Old 02-07-2017, 08:52 PM
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I have never been on a cruise and doubt I ever will but I know a whole lot of people that love them. I noticed a huge overlap between them and the people that like all-inclusive resorts, prepackaged attractions and lots of food. That is really all they are except they change locations.

Of course, I am talking about the really large cruise ships that are floating hotels/restaurants/malls. There are lots of specialty cruises as well. I probably would like one of the special interest academic lecture ones or a European river cruise on a small ship. You are not ever going to catch me standing in line with several thousand other people just to get a tiny cabin and endless buffets though.

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Old 02-07-2017, 08:53 PM
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How are all of you people getting paid-for cruises? I've decided that I'll never pay for a cruise (no free booze like a resort, can't even bring your own), but if someone comped one, I'd be game.

Edit: because of the near simulpost, I'm reminded that I've been on a river cruise that I paid for, but it was in China and included booze and I could bring anything I wanted on. So, good attitudes on the cruise company's part.

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Old 02-07-2017, 08:54 PM
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David Foster Wallace wrote an excellent essay about cruising (heh) that comes down against the practice but also addresses some positives.
https://harpers.org/wp-content/uploa...01-0007859.pdf
Myself? I like exploring a floating hotel that's also going somewhere I get to explore. I like eating all I want, when I want, at no extra charge. I like having decent coffee on tap at all hours. I like looking out at the ocean, trying to spot dolphins or bears or whatever.

Cruising is like a trip to the spa, I think. You aren't going to do or see as much as you would on a regular vacation, but by committing yourself to that limitation, you also remove the pressure to do and see a lot.
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Old 02-07-2017, 09:16 PM
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How are all of you people getting paid-for cruises? I've decided that I'll never pay for a cruise (no free booze like a resort, can't even bring your own), but if someone comped one, I'd be game.

Edit: because of the near simulpost, I'm reminded that I've been on a river cruise that I paid for, but it was in China and included booze and I could bring anything I wanted on. So, good attitudes on the cruise company's part.
Well, in my case my dad is 85 years old and loves cruises. So he regularly spends money to take us with him. He figures we're going to inherit his money anyway so we all may as well enjoy it together while he's still alive.

We really enjoy them. They can be relaxing, but they are also a way to see multiple places while sleeping in the same room every night.
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Old 02-07-2017, 09:29 PM
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I've probably been on over a dozen cruises, from 40-passenger ships (Galapagos) to 160,000 ton behemoths that would make the Titanic look like a tugboat. And come June, I'm taking another one.

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Do they enjoy them that much?
Obviously. But I enjoy the most recent (at least the last half-dozen) because I am with a group of friends (20-30 depending on the trip) so there is time for socializing and fun with the group.

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Do they really give you a rest?
Yes. You can watch TV these days or use wifi, but if you really don't want to know what is happening in the world for 6-8 days, it's easy to do. And lying around and/or eating at your leisure is something most people don't get to do much, and should do more, IMHO (I'm retired now, so leisure time is not a problem). But yeah, they are restful.

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Does the 5k to 10k missing in your bank account hurt?
Never had a cruise cost me $10K; I admit some of the specialty cruises get closer to the $5K, but those are like the Galapagos, small ships and/or longer trips. As I mentioned above, I'm going on a 7-night Baltic cruise this June from Stockholm, airfare plus stateroom (w/balcony) is running me about $2,700. There are definitely cheaper options, too.

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Do you like the staff waiting on you?
Who doesn't? Seriously, the only time you really notice it is either at dinner, where service is top-class, or seeing just how fast your room gets cleaned and changed.

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Do you lose money in the casino?
I've donated a dollar or two, but the games are often 'cheap' ($5 minumum blackjack) and seldom crowded. Gamblers can find plenty of action on land, so the gambling is mostly for folks enjoying some 'on the town' time. Big thing is that there is no pressure to play and the casinos are usually closed whenever the ship is in port or within the 12-mile limit.

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Do you really enjoy the modern huge cruise ship experience with it's shopping malls and restaurants?
To me it's not the matter of what's on the ship (albeit there is much more than gambling and shopping), it's where they can take me. I've been to Istanbul (not Constantinople), Ephesus, Israel, the Galapagos Islands, Sydney, New Calendonia, and this upcoming trip will allow me to get to Tallin, Helsinki, and St. Petersburg (only place in all of Russia I want to see). Now sure, I could set up a land tour or 'rough it' myself, but a ship gives you a center to work from, guidance on going ashore, and tours (in Russia, you must be on an approved tour) which you can take or leave depending on your interests.

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Is sex better at sea? Come on you can tell me that much, right?
What happens at sea remains at sea...

Everybody to their own preference, but I like the quite, the wide range of activities (and food), the various and different ports (and food), the companionship of good friends (while eating food), and see places I've never been before (did I mention the food?).

IMHO as always. YMMV.
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Old 02-07-2017, 10:05 PM
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I know lots of people who absolutely love cruises, and some go on several a year. I've been on a few, mostly to make the wife happy, but I myself couldn't care less about them. After a couple of days I've had enough.

I personally don't care about being waited on; I would be just as happy eating at the buffet for every meal, but wife prefers the fancy dinners; I especially hate the "dress" dinners. I do play the slots a little, but I have never won.

There's always hoards of people moving around like cattle, the elevators are always packed with people; the ship is basically a large floating petrie dish of germs. Last cruise both me and wife got sick as dogs.
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Old 02-07-2017, 10:22 PM
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They sound dreadfully tedious to me. I like planning my trips down to the smallest details, and having that all served up to me, and sticking me on a boat with thousands of other annoying American tourists is my idea of hell.
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Old 02-07-2017, 10:23 PM
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I have a couple cousins who go on at least one a year; usually 7-10 days. I think they would cite all the reasons basically pointed out in the OP plus another: because they can. Both work pretty hard, are up there in years (60s and 70s), don't have kids to build huge estates for, and just get a kick out of the entire experience. It isn't my thing - the closest I come to even be tempted would be something like the American Queen from Pittsburgh or New Orleans or something like that - but I can't find any fault in their reasoning or desire to take all the cruises they do.
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Old 02-07-2017, 10:30 PM
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5-10k? I bought a mexican cruise for about $450 and that was I believe 4 or 5 nights. When you factor it out, that is less than $100 a day for food and shelter (I was sharing an internal room with someone though).

Either way, cruises aren't bad if the destinations aren't bad. The ship itself gets boring although the food is good.
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Old 02-07-2017, 10:40 PM
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Either way, cruises aren't bad if the destinations aren't bad. The ship itself gets boring although the food is good.
I have been on 3...im not sure how you get bored unless you are a total introvert. I personally only got to do about 1/3 of what I wanted to do and barely got off the boat in port.
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Old 02-07-2017, 10:43 PM
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Yeah, I find the ports to be a pointless interruption of my calm sailing/boozing/gambling.
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Old 02-07-2017, 10:53 PM
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My parents went on many cruises after retirement, including Alaska, Europe, West Africa & the Amazon. They were perfect for my dad because he wanted to see more of the world, but he didn't get around all that well. They went on shore excursions as they pleased, joined group activities as they pleased and met some really cool people.

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It's been a few years since I've been on one, but for a while we were taking 1 or 2 per year. It's nice to visit a number of places without having to change your hotel or repack your bags. Sitting on the deck is very relaxing. Going to the dining room for a good dinner every night is something I find very appealing. The staffs on the various ships we've been on have been very friendly and attentive.

Our favorite ships were the Disney ships. Exceptionally clean and inviting, with very good food and adult only areas.
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Old 02-07-2017, 11:28 PM
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I have been on 3...im not sure how you get bored unless you are a total introvert. I personally only got to do about 1/3 of what I wanted to do and barely got off the boat in port.
I took carnival, I wasn't too impressed by their on board entertainment. The food was good, but unless you wanted to read a book in the sun there wasn't much else to do. I don't like gambling myself so I didn't do that.
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Old 02-07-2017, 11:46 PM
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I went on one to Alaska and one on the Yangzi 3 gorges. Might possibly go on another one to say the Greek Islands but that's about the only one I think I'd want to do. Food was not great, and I felt like it was a cattle call at every port of call. And its hard to do anything except the most obvious touristy stuff at the port of call. Plus they charge an arm and a leg for booze. It isn't for me. It also seems like there are often 2 days of just crusiing. On the other hand, my wife kinda liked it.

If anyone is going to do the Alaska cruise. I would recommend going just one way and making sure that way includes the iceburgs. Do the land few days on your own or part of a tour in Alaska. IIRC it was a day and a half from seattle to the first port of call. And the return was not much better.

I've been to 3 all inclusive resorts. These are great for kids, whereas a cruise is not. You get to see a lot more of where you're based out of. Food is better and the alcohol is included. A bit of "authentic" local interaction versus a cruise. It's way touristy but several degrees less than a cruise. Plus, for me, being able to just walk down to the beach 24 / 7 in the middle of winter in shorts has a lot of value.
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thousands of other annoying American tourists is my idea of hell.
You know, you can find cruises that won't be mainly full of Americans. And it could always be worse, you could find yourself among thousands of British tourists.




edit: That was completely unfair. It only takes a handful of Brits to ruin a vacation.

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Do they enjoy them that much?

Do they really give you a rest?
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Do they enjoy them that much?
Yes

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Does the 5k to 10k missing in your bank account hurt?
7 days for me and wife is less than 1/2 your lower estimate

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Do you like the staff waiting on you?
They do an excellent job, and are very friendly and personable so..yes

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Do you lose money in the casino?
Nominal amount

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Do you really enjoy the modern huge cruise ship
experience with it's shopping malls and restaurants?
It's also pools, bars, dance clubs, and shows, so yes

Is sex better at sea? Come on you can tell me that much, right? [/QUOTE]

It's great... but great on land too.. so if it is better, not a measurable amount
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I have been on two cruises and consider them just one of many vacation styles to choose from. I would do it again but I don't understand people who choose cruises for all their vacations. In a nutshell:

Plus: You get to visit different interesting ports without boarding planes or trains or changing hotels.
Minus: The ship is only so big. After three days I feel cooped up, especially on those "at sea" days. I don't gamble, and it gets tedious that they are constantly trying to find ways to take nickels and dimes out of your pocket.

Tread, how do you take two people on a seven-day cruise for under $2500?
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I've been on a cruise once: a Disney cruise in the Caribbean. It was very expensive, but I feel like we got our money's worth. (As opposed to a Disney theme park, which is expensive and not worth the price paid.)

The excursions were hectic and fun. The rest of the time was peaceful. Being able to grab food and drink at any time, laze about with no responsibilities or schedule, and catching some of the on-board shows made for a great vacation.

On the other hand, I don't see us going again. While the Disney cruise was well worth what we paid for it, we've managed to have great vacations other ways.
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Old 02-08-2017, 11:03 AM
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Is sex better at sea? Come on you can tell me that much, right?
Absolutely.

I didn't think I'd be a cruise guy. But I won some in a corporate contest and really enjoyed them. Enough that I just did a 4 day cruise to the islands and back on my own dime. Cost maybe $1500 with expenses.

I do find them relaxing. Even just to sit on the balcony and watch the ocean roll past. I saw a whale last year.

I'm not much of a gambler, so the casino doesn't do it for me. But the restaurants are good.
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Old 02-08-2017, 11:14 AM
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Do they enjoy them that much?

Do they really give you a rest?

Does the 5k to 10k missing in your bank account hurt?

Do you like the staff waiting on you?

Do you lose money in the casino?

Do you really enjoy the modern huge cruise ship
experience with it's shopping malls and restaurants?

Is sex better at sea? Come on you can tell me that much, right?

Yes

Its less than some of the other vacations we've been on. No $5-$10k doesn't hurt, our income has supported it.

Yes

No, I don't gamble, that isn't the purpose

Shopping malls? No, the cruise ships we've been on have been relatively shopping light. Restaurants, yes. Restaurants tend to be a big part of any vacation experience for us.

Sex - we have great sex wherever we are.

Cruise ships have alcohol, they have a spa, they have sitting by the pool. There are excursions where you can go see the local sights or try parasailing. There are shows and activities going on constantly, so if you get board in the sun with a book, you can go listen to dueling pianos or something. They usually have decent kids activities - where they take your kids off your hands for a few hours. They - and all inclusive resorts - tend to be lovely "sit on your ass, eat, drink, read, enjoy the ocean" vacations. This is a different kind of vacation than camping, or visiting a big city and going to museums and sightseeing.
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Old 02-08-2017, 11:33 AM
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We went on our first cruise in 2013 because we only had a short time in Europe and I didn't expect to be able to get back in any reasonable time and it was actually a relatively inexpensive way to get to a number of cities in one week.

Much to my surprise my husband loved it. He hates changing hotels on vacation - moving from one room to another annoys him so my desire to see as much as possible while in a particular area has caused some land based vacation conflicts.

Since then we've taken 3 more cruises and I have two more scheduled over the next 2 years. The second of those is a 7 day that I booked for Chick Trip 2018 with two friends. We're going to be paying slightly under $1500/pp for accommodation, all our food, all our drinks (yay drink pkg) and transportation to 5 separate islands. It could have been cheaper still but one of the girls is claustrophobic so no inside cabin or even oceanview. Balcony was a requirement.

I make a point to book trips for places that I either haven't seen yet or am excited to go back to. We also plan for extra "sea" days in ports that we really don't care about, making it a much more relaxing vacation.

Cruising is definitely one of the vacations that planning ahead, watching sales and knowing the cycles of the year and how that impacts pricing really pays off. I'm leaving in April on our longest cruise yet - 11 days, and we spend 3 days docked in New Orleans at Jazz Fest. When I booked I did it mostly on impulse since I've never been to New Orleans, we both love Jazz and I've never been on a cruise that stayed docked this long. I paid a little more than I normally would be comfortable with but the price has actually doubled since I booked it so it was a good time and I'm really looking forward to this trip so I think it's worth the little extra this time.

A good thing to know is, just because you've already booked you should still keep an eye on prices. Up to 91 days before you leave there is no penalty (in Canada and the US, UK laws are very different) for canceling so if a better deal comes along you can either cancel and rebook, or often, just call the cruise line and have them apply the new special to your booking. After that date, when penalties kick in they might not, but some times they do and it's still worth calling. Depends on how empty the ship currently is.
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My mom is a hard-core cruiser. She cruised with Dad before he died, and since then, she's cruised with friends, my sister, me, her grandkids, and several church groups. Speaking for her:

Do they enjoy them that much? YES YES YES YES

Do they really give you a rest? Definitely - no cooking, no cleaning, no nothing.

Does the 5k to 10k missing in your bank account hurt?
Her cruises rarely cost that much. She and I did 28 days: British Isles/Transatlantic with a balcony cabin and even that didn't hit 10K each. Had I not been with her, I'd have had an interior cabin and saved a bunch! For Mom, this is a budgetary priority, and fortunately, my dad left her provided for so that she has been able to do several cruises a year. In fact, next month, she and my sister are making their annual trek to the Caribbean, because they like to.

Do you like the staff waiting on you? Definitely - no cooking, no cleaning, no nothing.

Do you lose money in the casino?
She only goes into the casino when she's bored and wants to look around. But it's usually a smoking area, so she mostly avoids it.

Do you really enjoy the modern huge cruise ship experience with it's shopping malls and restaurants?
She's never gone on one of the super-mega-gigantic ships, but I think she'd like it. Me, I'd hate it, altho I'd like to tour one.

Is sex better at sea? Come on you can tell me that much, right? I couldn't even ask her that question. For myself - unless the sea is rough, you don't even know you're not just in a nice hotel room, which I don't see as a big mood-enhancer.


Now, speaking just for me, cruising can be a cheap way to vacation. If you shop and time things right, and if you don't mind an interior cabin, you can go for around $100/day per person. That covers your cabin, your meals, snacks, entertainment galore, pools hot tubs, gym... We don't drink, so we're spared that expense.

Usually when we stop in a port, we explore on our own, so there's no cost for the guided tours. Almost without exception, the staff go out of their way to make sure you're having a good time. I think all ships have libraries where you can find in interesting variety of books if you don't bring your own. You can do trivia or karaoke or dance lessons or towel-folding lessons or go to lectures or see movies or just find a quiet spot to sit and watch the ocean go by. I just wish my husband liked cruising as much as I do.
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I am really intrigued by some of the pricing that people are quoting. I have spent a lot of time comparing prices when I have booked a cruise and never see anything that cheap.

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[...]a 7 day that I booked for Chick Trip 2018 with two friends. We're going to be paying slightly under $1500/pp for accommodation, all our food, all our drinks (yay drink pkg) and transportation to 5 separate islands. It could have been cheaper still but one of the girls is claustrophobic so no inside cabin or even oceanview. Balcony was a requirement.
I would love to know what cruise you are taking where you can get a balcony cabin for under $1500. What cruise line, departure date, destinations? Because I'm going too.

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She and I did 28 days: British Isles/Transatlantic with a balcony cabin and even that didn't hit 10K each.
Was this a repositioning cruise?
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Frequent cruiser here.

The good:
Able to visit many destinations without unpacking.
Cost is actually reasonable if you weigh against cost of hotel + decent / fine dining on vacation.
Food always available.
I enjoy being on the water.
Free entertainment nightly (again, a cost comparison opportunity).
Nice workout facilities included.
Meeting new people.

The maybe not so good:
Large crowds on big boats (so, don't go on the big boats, duh.)
Shore excursions packages are costly and stoopid with the coaches full of people following the lady with the number on the paddle held up in the air. (so, book independently - still costly - or just jump off and explore!)
Buffet food quality and hoards of people at the buffet (so, go to the sit-down places, duh.)
Entertainment quality can be dodgy.
Don't even think about trying to find a chair by the pool after 5:00 AM, they will all be taken by people who put their towel out and never show up all day, putzes.
No thanks, I don't care to shop for art and jewelry, or to gamble.
Meeting new people (I'm rather shy).
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Some people even retire to a cruise ship.
Do they have dedicated rooms for long term occupancy? Like a little neighborhood on the ship for the permanent residents?

I'll admit my first thought of a cruise ship room is derived from popular culture where it's always depicted in ways that made my old dorm room look lavish. Beds the size of a park bench, closet barely large enough to hold a broom, that sort of thing.
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Was this a repositioning cruise?
The Transatlantic portion was, but it included stops in Norway, Shetland Islands, Iceland, and Newfoundland before arriving in NYC. If they ever offer that cruise again, I'll seriously consider it.
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Entertainment quality can be dodgy.
Don't even think about trying to find a chair by the pool after 5:00 AM, they will all be taken by people who put their towel out and never show up all day, putzes.
Amen on the occasionally dodgy entertainment. One time, we were "entertained" by a musician/comic/yo-yo trickster - OMG did he suck mightily!!! He'd have been gonged on the Gong Show.

On the other hand, I've seen some incredible performers. So it can be hit or miss.

I've mostly cruised Royal Caribbean, and I've never had a problem finding chairs near the pool - tho I prefer quieter places to sit. They have signs saying that you can't save chairs, and I don't know if they really enforce it or if the passengers abide by the rule.
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Frequent cruiser here.

The good:
Able to visit many destinations without unpacking.
Cost is actually reasonable if you weigh against cost of hotel + decent / fine dining on vacation.
Food always available.
I enjoy being on the water.
Free entertainment nightly (again, a cost comparison opportunity).
Nice workout facilities included.
Meeting new people.

The maybe not so good:
Large crowds on big boats (so, don't go on the big boats, duh.)
Shore excursions packages are costly and stoopid with the coaches full of people following the lady with the number on the paddle held up in the air. (so, book independently - still costly - or just jump off and explore!)
Buffet food quality and hoards of people at the buffet (so, go to the sit-down places, duh.)
Entertainment quality can be dodgy.
Don't even think about trying to find a chair by the pool after 5:00 AM, they will all be taken by people who put their towel out and never show up all day, putzes.
No thanks, I don't care to shop for art and jewelry, or to gamble.
Meeting new people (I'm rather shy).
When I quoted 5k to 10k I meant for two people per stateroom not per person, plus the port taxes and tips and the credit cards for shopping and fine dinning and bar bill's and extra's for shore excursions, plus the airfare to get to the port of departure, plus the taxi or rental care, plus the hotel or motel the night before you leave.

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Do they have dedicated rooms for long term occupancy? Like a little neighborhood on the ship for the permanent residents?

I'll admit my first thought of a cruise ship room is derived from popular culture where it's always depicted in ways that made my old dorm room look lavish. Beds the size of a park bench, closet barely large enough to hold a broom, that sort of thing.
I'm too busy to search for it right now, but some people live full time on cruise ships to the tune of $250,000 a year includes all the meals and everything, but they have to get off for dry docking and maintence.
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How can they keep you from bringing your own booze?
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An old but fun book about a SF to (then) Leningrad cruise.

https://www.amazon.com/Nothing-Can-W.../dp/0060148918
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My wife and I have done several cruises: 2 with my side of the family, one with her parents, and one by ourselves. We have always had a window cabin because my wife would get claustrophobic without one. We have only paid about $3-4,000 for the cruises. I think we plan for something like $2,000 per person.

I think the huge costs for cruises would be in the alcohol, the casinos, the duty-free shops, the spa, the excursions, the pictures, and all the other things that you can do.

If you don't drink (or limit yourself to a very low drinking regimen), don't play in the casinos, don't buy a lot of crap in the shops, or pay the premiums for the excursions, you won't spend a lot of money.

I'm pretty cheap and don't do a lot of the aforementioned activities, but I still have a great time on cruises.

On one cruise, we had had about 8-10 inches of snow the day before we were supposed to fly to Miami for the cruise, and we were pretty scared we were going to miss the boat (literally). Because of the aggravation, I splurged and gave my wife and daughter a gift of a massage during the cruise, at $100 or so apiece. Money well spent!

For excursions, I have found that booking your own excursion away from the ship can be both fun and slightly scary, depending on how regimented you want things to be. Ship-endorsed excursions will be fairly expensive, but you are pretty much guaranteed a safe and predictable experience, and will get back to the ship before it leaves. Finding your own excursions can be cheaper, but you have to be aware of your surroundings and not stray too far off the beaten trail.

Case in point: when we went to Cabo san Lucas on a family cruise, my brother had brought 5 sets of snorkel gear with him. (They used to live in Hawaii, so they already had the gear.) I think the snorkeling excursion from the ship was something like $150/person, or thereabouts. We went to Cabo on the tender, got off at the dock, found a guy in a motorboat, and paid him $20 to take us over to the dive spot, with a promise of another $30 if he would pick us up later. Perhaps a little dicey, but it worked. So, instead of dropping nearly $1,000 on an excursion, we paid $50.

Later in that trip, my mom, wife, two daughters, a niece, and I did our own little excursion through Mazatlan. We went to a marketplace, and had a wonderful lunch and beach experience, all on our own. I speak a little Spanish, but was totally amazed that everyone we met spoke passable English. Had a great time for less than $100 in total, including souvenirs.

During the at-sea days, I always find something fun to do that is free. I love watching the art auctions, and they served free champagne.

I met a new group of people and we hung out together several days, just swapping stories and telling jokes.

The mealtimes are wonderful, and being treated as royalty by the crew is part of the experience. I liked the Royal Caribbean, because we had the same waiter for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. On Carnival, though, it was assigned seating only at dinner. But, I enjoy the fact that the waiters knew our names by the second mealtime, and by the third day, they were anticipating our orders. Of course, eating at all times of the day and night in the other eateries is a lot of fun, too.

We've never done an all-inclusive, but hope to do that soon, so we can have a true comparison.
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I have been on 3...im not sure how you get bored unless you are a total introvert.
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The good:

Meeting new people.

The maybe not so good:

Meeting new people (I'm rather shy).
Herein lies the rub. I've found most people who enjoy the cruising lifestyle, especially the older ones, tend to be highly gregarious and at least somewhat outgoing. Going with large groups of friends or meeting a new set of acquaintances is part of the charm.

For others being trapped on a boat with hundreds of strangers would be their idea of hell .

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How can they keep you from bringing your own booze?
Royal Caribbean screens all luggage, so if you've got booze, chances are, they'll find it. I assume it goes thru xray machines, just like carry-on does. And they know to check your mouthwash to see if it's actually vodka with a little food coloring. If you buy alcohol in port, they take it from you, mark it with your cabin number, and return it to you the night before you debark.

I suppose some folks manage to sneak stuff aboard, but I also expect it's the exception. RC won't even let you bring soda aboard - you gotta buy theirs. I imagine all cruise lines do the same.

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How can they keep you from bringing your own booze?
Honor system. Really, they can't.

I bring all the booze I can carry in my bags, and at every port stop tote a case or two of beer on board. Never had a problem.
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RC won't even let you bring soda aboard - you gotta buy theirs. I imagine all cruise lines do the same.
This is one aspect I always found exceedingly odd.

All the food you can handle! No problem, it's included! A glass of Coke? Well hold on there, hold on......I said HOLD ON. Do you have the soda package you paid separately for? With the special drinking cup you have to carry around AND the wrist bracelet (can't have anyone cheating on that, nosiree!) Oh, you don't have all that? WELL! We are going to have to charge you $3.75 for that Coke.

Really? Seriously? Wut thu fu?
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When I quoted 5k to 10k I meant for two people per stateroom not per person, plus the port taxes and tips and the credit cards for shopping and fine dinning and bar bill's and extra's for shore excursions, plus the airfare to get to the port of departure, plus the taxi or rental care, plus the hotel or motel the night before you leave.
Some of that depends on the details- I live in NYC so no airfare or hotels for me. I went on a 7 day cruise in October- it was $599 (*) and $200 in port taxes each. So that's $799 pp so far. The unlimited open bar was $99 for the week each( ended up being cheaper than the soda package) and we spent about $150 each on shore excursions. That's around $950 each. Can't remember how much the gratuities were, but not enough to bring it up to $5K for the two of us. Didn't even lose enough gambling to bring it up to 5K.




* Which we actually didn't pay - my husband is a gambler and the casino comped us
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Thank you for the answers, especially about the beer.

It would bother me if they examined mouthwash.
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We've been on two cruises. One on Norwegian to Alaska was fabulous. Food was fantastic, lots of things to do on board. I don't know how much that one cost...it was a graduation present from Ivylad.

We took a three night cruise on Carnival to the Bahamas. It may have been the stress of the trip (we took along my dying MIL on her last trip) but we had so many things go wrong with the room. We won't be doing Carnival again. I think we spent about $1400 for a balcony room.

I've been interested in the river cruises too.

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We just got back from a cruise. We went Disney - our second, although we did another line and went to Mexico. Disney is/was the best, hands down, because there were tons of things to do (or lie by the pool and vegetate) and they weren't trying to get us to gamble.

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Do they enjoy them that much?
My word, yes. Just the two of us, no kids, no talk about work, no worries - just "where do you want to have lunch" or "let's take in a movie".
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Yes. Nobody has to cook, everything is taken care of, no calls from work, no worries about anything.
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That's what money is for. We can afford it - I would rather have the time with the Lovely and Talented Mrs.Shodan than the money.
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Heavens, yes. I don't know how they train those Disney folks, but whatever they do, it works. Everybody smiles at you, everybody seems genuinely to want you to have a good time - it's nice. And being an overgrown kid at heart, I like the Disney characters (I got my picture taken with Mickey Mouse, and my wife with Chip and Dale and Belle and the Beast). The shows are wonderful, there are all kinds of Disney movies, we took a cooking class, the private island was great fun - what's not to like?
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I liked the restaurants. We did more shopping in the Bahamas, where I found the two most garish Hawaiian shirts in the Caribbean, and bought both of them. Like I said, there are tons of things to do all day long.
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We have yet to go on one. Part of the reason is I used to be paid be on ships so paying to be on one is a little strange for me. On pricing, from the cruises I've priced out the OP's range doesn't seem high especially as total for two people which is what would be relevant for us (though obviously you can pay $10k per person too) and including airfare, etc. as it applies. I'm sure you can pay less, but low end doesn't appeal to me (far from a spendthrift, but if we were to do it at all we'd do it fairly high end).

I also wonder 'compared to what'? One could take the implication from OP there's some other type of vacation where there's no question everyone should like it. But what would that be...road tripping, package tours to famous world destinations, air bnb DIY wandering, extreme hiking in Patagonia, stay home and watch TV? Likewise for if the cost 'hurts'. That would seem to depend importantly how much money you have rather than just the nature of the vacation, though still would vary among people of given means.
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Why do people take cruise ship vacations over and over again?

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I have only been on one cruise, but I plan on doing one in 2018 (to Alaska)
In this case it is a special event cruise -- board gaming. The organizer(boardgamegeek.com) rents the room and brings a bunch of games. When at sea or at night we play games.

I went in 2015 (Galveston-Jamaica-Grand Cayman-Cozumel-Galveston) on Royal Caribbean. It was a great experience. I didn't gamble or do anything that cost extra money. A balcony was $1500/person which included the game room, port fees, taxes, and gratuities. I did pre-arrange a kayak rental on Grand Cayman but it was really windy so we declined (did tip the driver for the ride across the island and back). At Cozumel I walked to a nearby beach and went snorkeling.

I probably wouldn't do a non gaming cruise

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I used to work on a cruise ship, and you'll find my "Ask The..." thread if you search. I'd encourage anyone considering a cruise vacation to do some due diligence before supporting the industry, and research the inherent environmental and social justice issues.
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Tread, how do you take two people on a seven-day cruise for under $2500?
No big trick.. We are leaving on one in a couple of weeks. 7 day balcony 779 each before taxes, and port fees, ... after port fees and taxes of 179.16 each we are looking at 1916.32,plus 104 for gratuities, we are at 2020.32, so we will have drinks added to that, .. if we do excursions that will obviously add to it, but usually just get off and look around, then back on ship and you about have it to yourselves.

If we wanted an interior cabin it would be drastically less than that even.
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