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Old 05-22-2018, 11:33 AM
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"Summa cum laude" graduation cake design rejected due to perceived vulgarity

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Old 05-22-2018, 11:49 AM
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Dibs on the slice with "cum" on it!
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Old 05-22-2018, 11:50 AM
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From the same crowd that went bonkers over the use of the term "niggardly"?
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Old 05-22-2018, 12:21 PM
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People are morons.

In other news, people are morons.
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One subtlety is that since the kid was home schooled, he didn't know the vulgar meaning of cum until the cake didn't spell it out.

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Old 05-22-2018, 01:06 PM
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Too bad he didn't graduate smegma cum laude.

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Old 05-22-2018, 01:07 PM
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How does a home-schooled kid not graduate at the top of his class?
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Old 05-22-2018, 01:09 PM
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How does a home-schooled kid not graduate at the top of his class?
This is exactly what I came in here to say. Bet he was an only child.
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It was an online system with a rude word filter that wasn't smart enough to know Latin phrases. Kind of waters down the "people are morons" headline narrative.
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I would have substituted with the highest distinction and ordered that on the cake.

It is surprising a bakery wasn't familiar with standard graduation phrases. A computer filter certainly should recognize these standard latin phrases.

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Old 05-22-2018, 01:15 PM
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I would have substituted with the highest distinction and ordered that on the cake.

It is surprising a bakery wasn't familiar with standard graduation phrases.
no one ever gave me a cake when I graduated. I was expected to graduate.
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As said elsewhere - "We are living in the prequel to Idiocracy."
Credit to @TheRickWilson...
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no one ever gave me a cake when I graduated. I was expected to graduate.
But if you'd been top of your class of 60 living in a shoebox in the middle of the road, you'd have been disappointed not to be given a damp cloth to suck on.
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A shoebox? Luxury!
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Old 05-22-2018, 01:24 PM
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IA computer filter certainly should recognize these standard latin phrases.
I guess they just didn't think the headline Publix online cake ordering system omits common Latin phrase from database was quite so compelling.
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How does a home-schooled kid not graduate at the top of his class?
I'm pretty sure Summa cum laude doesn't mean "top of the class." It applies to a GPA.

Or was I just whooshed here...?
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Honors can be a great motivation.

I wasn't a good student. Making the Deans List meant a lot to me in college. I got a letter at the end of the semester.

It's not a high award, but I worked my ass off for it.

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I'm pretty sure Summa cum laude doesn't mean "top of the class." It applies to a GPA.

Or was I just whooshed here...?
I understand it to mean "with highest honor," awarded to graduates in the top 1-5% of their class.

And I believe ElvisL1ves was referring to the fact that homeschooled kids tend to be in a "class" of just themselves and their siblings, if any.
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Yes, and there's also the question of how objective home-school grades and honors can ever be.
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Fun fact: "Valedictorian" does not refer to the student who graduates at the top of the class. It refers to the person who delivers the final, closing statement ("valediction") at the graduation ceremony, who is often -- but not always -- the student who graduates at the top of the class.
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It was an online system with a rude word filter that wasn't smart enough to know Latin phrases. Kind of waters down the "people are morons" headline narrative.
Several years ago I stopped receiving data from a company. They said that nothing had changed on their end, and that their system automatically sent the data every month.

On of their accounts was on Dike Road. Their system thought that was dirty and would not send the file to us.

(They did eventually correct the problem.)
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How does a home-schooled kid not graduate at the top of his class?
One has to be an extra special kind of stupid to not graduate in the top of a class on one (or two if a twin).


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Honors can be a great motivation.

I wasn't a good student. Making the Deans List meant a lot to me in college. I got a letter at the end of the semester.

It's not a high award, but I worked my ass off for it.
I know of an entire fraternity that made the Dean's List.
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My favourite example of a naughty-word filter that's not smart enough is in a mobile game I play called Love Nikki - it's a dressup game, which lets you create outfits to be shared with the other users. The filter for the descriptions is...very interesting.

Not only does it have no sense of context, not only is it subject to the Scunthorpe problem, but it's also got words filtered that make using the clothing's names, stats, and in-game description difficult. (There are workarounds - spaces, misspellings, and accented characters are most common.)

Problem censored strings include av (meaning 'adult video'), sm, loli, sex, tit, 'ligen' (inexplicable!)...and a bunch more, but these are the ones I've had reason to run foul of... The words have, save, gave, rave, small, title, competition, diligence, and the Lolita, Unisex, and Sexy tags...all require workarounds to use them in the descriptions.

Annoyingly, they don't apply any filter to the usernames, so, I can't say 'I have to work diligently for the title', but I can run across someone named slutpuppy while I work di*tly for the *le.
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It was an online system with a rude word filter that wasn't smart enough to know Latin phrases. Kind of waters down the "people are morons" headline narrative.
The software didn't bake and decorate the cake though. Human intervention should've filled in the missing word.

I also had the unworthy thought that summa cum laude was a slightly dubious appellation when applied to a home schooled student. Reminded me of a Labrador of ours that graduated at the top of her obedience class.*

*The other dog in the class stopped showing up.
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Well, some come quietly, summa cum laude.
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I understand it to mean "with highest honor," awarded to graduates in the top 1-5% of their class.
OK - at my daughter's high school, there were GPA ranges for Cum Laude, Magna Cum Laude and Summa Cum Laude. Graduates were awarded different colored cords depending upon their averages. Theoretically, everyone could have been Summa.
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It was an online system with a rude word filter that wasn't smart enough to know Latin phrases. Kind of waters down the "people are morons" headline narrative.
Software designers are people too.

Software designers who design incompetent "naughty language" filters are idiots as well.
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Old 05-22-2018, 04:32 PM
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As to how a home schooled student might receive a cum laude (with honor), magna cum laude (with high honor), or summa cum laude (with highest honor) phrase, maybe the South Carolina student was "enrolled" through an "umbrella school", through which grades and attendance, diplomas, and honors are recorded, and academic records are reported. In Alabama it is not uncommon for an umbrella school to "cover" quite a few home schooled students.
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Internet filtering is no joke. Beaver College changed their name to Arcadia University in 2001 partly because prospective students were having trouble finding their website via web search.
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What does a homeschool graduation even look like? (Besides sad!)

Does he get all the awards? Who claps? What about the hat and tassel?
Is there a prom? Does the band play?

I am just imagining a thousand things now!
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I'm reminded of this thread about a pool.
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One of my colleagues put a blocker on her home computer, and found out that she couldn't access the Pharmacy Times website because it was about drugs. I also heard about an elementary school whose kids couldn't access marsexploration.com because it had s-e-x in it. As for me, a few years ago I was on vacation and couldn't access a fiber arts website because the phrase "female genital mutilation" was somewhere in the message board.



Anyway, someone on Facebook said that the chances are, the bakery has a list of words that they are not allowed to put on a cake under any circumstances, and "cum" was one of them.

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Well, some come quietly, summa cum laude.

But sumos, they are too big to not cum laude.
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There was a time when I used to go around calling random people "homo sapiens" or "heterosexual." Almost got my ass kicked a few times.
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Heh heh. Heh heh. "Pube-licks."
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The software didn't bake and decorate the cake though. Human intervention should've filled in the missing word.

I also had the unworthy thought that summa cum laude was a slightly dubious appellation when applied to a home schooled student. Reminded me of a Labrador of ours that graduated at the top of her obedience class.*

*The other dog in the class stopped showing up.
Actually I think the decorating IS all automated. Still a request being censored should trigger an automatic notification that such is occurring.

Do some home school programs have "virtual" classes with standardized assessments shared across their populations? I was under the impression that such is the case and that the honor would be based on relative performance on those assessments. Could be wrong.
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When people think of homeschooling, they think of a one on one thing with parents teaching their kids, but there are a bunch of home school situations where it's a bunch of families together. So this kid could have been like one of 20 or 30 in his class. And most home schools use standardized curricula and lesson plans created by academic companies for the homeschooling market. So it's not all just ad hoc.
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Stephen Colbert went crazy with this last night. They even made up a set of six cupcakes with "CUM" written out in icing on top to make up for the lack, and said they were sending a box o the kid.

He also made Thudlow Boink's "Pube-Licks" joke.
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no one ever gave me a cake when I graduated. I was expected to graduate.
That's a little sad. Expectations or not, having some sort of celebration -- could be a quiet party at home, could be going out to a restaurant -- was a standard way of marking the accomplishment of graduating. It's usually a fairly low-key, family affair, but cake is absolutely a normal part of it (though I don't personally remember cake at my college graduation.) I mean, I was expected to turn 8 years old and 9 years old and 10 years, etc., and I still got a cake out of it! This was at least somewhat earned.

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Actually I think the decorating IS all automated.
This is one cake that you probably don't want hand decorated. Just in case Ron is working that day.
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The thing that annoys me most about this story is the mother's reaction to it.

They refunded her money, gave her a gift card, and apologized, for a mistake the software designer made.

And she acts as if her son has been irreparably damaged.

Good grief lady!
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And she acts as if her son has been irreparably damaged.
He has!

Before this happened, her son had no idea that "cum" was a dirty word, or even that there were dirty words.

Now, as a result of going online and trying to find out what "cum" means, the son has gotten addicted to bukkake, felching, and German scat porn.
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Fun fact: "Valedictorian" does not refer to the student who graduates at the top of the class. It refers to the person who delivers the final, closing statement ("valediction") at the graduation ceremony, who is often -- but not always -- the student who graduates at the top of the class.
Woohoo! I just found out that I was the valedictorian of my high school class!

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Actually I think the decorating IS all automated. Still a request being censored should trigger an automatic notification that such is occurring.
It did:
"She ordered the $70 sheet cake online through Publix, but she was alerted profane or special characters weren't allowed when she requested the bakery include Jacob's honor."
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He has!

Before this happened, her son had no idea that "cum" was a dirty word, or even that there were dirty words.

Now, as a result of going online and trying to find out what "cum" means, the son has gotten addicted to bukkake, felching, and German scat porn.
Deeper irony: I bet that the defective "bad word checker" database wouldn't catch any of those phrases. (Well, maybe "porn", because (A) bluenoses have to have a name for the thing they hate, and (B) it would also catch perfectly legitimate Thai personal names.)

No, I'm not going onto the Pube-licks cake decorating website to find out.

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"She ordered the $70 sheet cake online through Publix, but she was alerted profane or special characters weren't allowed when she requested the bakery include Jacob's honor."
I think dseid meant the event should have alerted a customer service representative involved in the cake-decorating process to intervene and apply a sanity check to the software's moronic response.

If so, that would be a good idea, except I doubt the process would have a CSR, because customer service costs money -- that's why the process was automated to begin with.
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Wow, I had never ever heard of Latin honors for high school grads before this.
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"If I knew you were cumin' I'd have baked a cake"


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If I knew you were cumin' I'd 've baked a cake,
baked a cake, baked a cake.
If I knew you were cumin' I'd 've baked a cake.
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Ewww, cake with cumin in it.
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