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Old 06-18-2018, 01:10 PM
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Creamsicle is sick [RIP Creamsicle]

The vet is usually open Saturdays. Occasionally they take a Saturday off. Of COURSE it had to be this one. Creamsicle has been lethargic since Friday. Her temperature seems to be elevated. We haven't seen her use the litter box, but she's indoor/outdoor so she may have been going outside. She's not eating dry food. She's eaten more of the we food we give her than she normally does, but she also will only take a few licks and walk away. She hadn't been drinking as much as usual. She's taken to hiding under a cabinet. She doesn't feel bloated, and she doesn't appear to be in pain. It's like she 'just doesn't feel well'. Chris (the vet) will keep her and check her out in a bit. I was told to call back and check on her later this morning or early this afternoon.
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Old 06-18-2018, 01:23 PM
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Best of luck to Creamsicle.

Both our dogs are currently being treated for kennel cough. Hopefully it's something minor like that.
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Old 06-18-2018, 02:31 PM
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Oh no. I hope she's ok. Best wishes to her.
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Old 06-18-2018, 02:52 PM
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I sure hope she is feeling better very soon. I know how it worries me when one of our dogs isn’t feeling well. Hopefully, the vet says it was just something minor.
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Old 06-18-2018, 02:56 PM
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Feel better, Creamsicle.
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Old 06-18-2018, 04:48 PM
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Could be a bad tooth. Cats will not eat if they have a bad tooth. Its kinda rarish, though. Good luck, let us know.
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Could be a bad tooth. Cats will not eat if they have a bad tooth. Its kinda rarish, though. Good luck, let us know.
Something similar happened with our kitty, Smokey. Turns out she had a virus that caused inflammation of her gums. She had to have several teeth pulled, but then she was right as rain.

I hope it's nothing serious for Creamsicle.
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Old 06-18-2018, 05:19 PM
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Just got off the phone with the vet. Creamsicle's temperature is low, 98-point-something. The vet didn't see anything obvious. She gave her sub-q fluids twice, and Creamsicle hasn't urinated yet. She's going to keep her overnight, and have blood work done in the morning.
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Old 06-18-2018, 05:28 PM
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Oh -- No sores in the mouth, no jaundice... As I said, nothing obvious. Creamsicle is down to seven pounds, which is concerning because she normally weighs nine and a quarter or nine and a half.
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Old 06-18-2018, 05:45 PM
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Has the vet done any blood work?
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Old 06-18-2018, 05:53 PM
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Keeping fingers and paws crossed for her. Hopefully the blood tests reveal what's wrong and it can be treated.
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Old 06-18-2018, 06:15 PM
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Oooh, I hope the little kitty is alright. Try not to worry...
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Old 06-18-2018, 06:36 PM
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Fingers crossed! I hope it's nothing serious.

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Old 06-18-2018, 07:13 PM
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How old is Creamsicle? Here's hoping she gets well soon. I just got my dog back from the vet, he's had a bad ear infection. It was kind of like your cat, he didn't appear too bad, then I saw the ears.

I'll remember Creamsicle when I do my prayers tonight. I always give thanks for having my dog and cat, so your baby should fit right in.
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Old 06-18-2018, 07:55 PM
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The vet said Creamsicle's heart and lungs sound strong. She didn't give us a diagnosis. If Creamsicle isn't urinating, I'm worried it might be kidney failure. When we talked to the vet, she said that Creamsicle was in the corner of her kennel. She doesn't protest when the vet reaches for her, but it's like she's trying to hide. The vet will give her liquid food today to see if she keeps it down.

Tonka seems like he's looking for her.

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How old is Creamsicle?
Creamsicle came to us almost four years ago. The vet said she was two or three at the time.

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I'll remember Creamsicle when I do my prayers tonight. I always give thanks for having my dog and cat, so your baby should fit right in.
Thank you.
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Old 06-18-2018, 08:50 PM
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When my cats have gone into the kidney failure, the symptoms were different. They started drinking a lot more (a lot). As they got sicker, they started vomiting frequently and lost interest in food. They went and hid in a secluded spot, and were very weak.

She's seeking shelter, but she's also interested in food. You didn't mention vomiting, which I think is a good sign. It could be a dental problem if she's interested in the soft food, but not the dry, or something stuck in her throat. As far as urination goes, she may just not like the environment or the litter box and will hold it as long as possible. I had one cat who held it for 36 hours or so and then expressed her displeasure at the situation by climbing on my daughter's bed and letting go. Cats can hold a lot it turns out. I had to throw that mattress out.

I'm not saying she's not sick. I'm just pointing out that there are a lot of possibilities. If your vet didn't take blood work, I would definitely request it.
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Old 06-18-2018, 09:03 PM
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You didn't mention vomiting, which I think is a good sign. It could be a dental problem if she's interested in the soft food, but not the dry, or something stuck in her throat.
She vomited Friday morning. It was white and foamy with no 'substance'. Basically it looked like stomach fluid. The vet didn't find any sores in her mouth. I assume she checked her teeth.

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If your vet didn't take blood work, I would definitely request it.
I think she'll have the blood work back in the morning.
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Old 06-18-2018, 10:08 PM
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The fuzzers and I are hoping for good news.
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Yeah, I know the feeling.

One of our cats (Pippin, 18 months old) was off his food and lethargic end of last week. My wife took him to the vet, where he had a fever and was dehydrated, so was given IV fluids and a long-acting antibiotic shot.

It's taken a couple of days, but he is back to his usual self.
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Old 06-18-2018, 10:16 PM
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Best of luck to Creamsickle. I'm sure Tonka is looking for her. Give him some extra scritches or snacks.
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Old 06-19-2018, 12:39 PM
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The vet just called. Creamsicle is perkier than yesterday, but... Severe kidney injury. The good news is that she’s young (this is something seen in older cats) and she doesn’t have a couple of the usual symptoms. Heart and lungs are strong. The bad news is that her blood work came back ‘horrible’. We’re going to go in at 2:00 to pick her up. She’ll have to be an indoor cat, and we’ll have to give her subcutaneous fluids and feed her with a syringe until she recovers. If she recovers.
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Old 06-19-2018, 01:32 PM
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I'm so sorry. However, my friends has had cats with kidney problems and they lived long lives. Good luck to you and Creamsicle.
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Old 06-19-2018, 01:59 PM
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Oh no. I'm sorry to hear that. The fluids should help a lot. Is the liquid food just to get her nutrition or is there another reason?
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Old 06-19-2018, 02:00 PM
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The liquid food is for while she recovers.

I'm at a loss as to how this happened so suddenly. Wednesday, or perhaps even Friday morning (but I think Wednesday), she was very frisky, running around the back yard and climbing up trees. By Friday afternoon/evening, she was lethargic.
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Kidney injury? Could have been trauma from a fall or something else. No other obvious signs of injury?
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Old 06-19-2018, 02:06 PM
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I say 'injury' because it came on too suddenly for me to call it 'disease'. 'Kidney failure' might fit, because that's what appears to have happened, but in my mind 'kidney failure' is caused by 'kidney disease'.

No signs of trauma.
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Old 06-19-2018, 02:10 PM
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Any speculation on whether the kidney thing was trauma vs. disease/toxicity? And just as a data point, did Creamsicle smell off? Like kinda sour?

My fuzzbeast spent a couple days in the hospital last month because he was way lethargic and ragdolly (he's usually pretty high strung). All manner of tests and worry for a diagnosis of "fever of unknown origin." Vet sent him home and told me: Never mind your cat is acting like he just chugged a bottle of Prestone, he's fine. Just take him home and ignore him for a few days and he'll be alright. And he is. Just when you think you know how the little monsters work they do something weird like come down with general malaise, then they get bored of that and go back to terrorizing the dogs.
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There are two kinds of kidney failure in cats (and maybe humans, but my experience is with cats so I'm not making any human claims). Chronic kidney failure is usually seen in older cats and is when the kidneys gradually lose their ability to function. Acute kidney failure comes on suddenly and the cat becomes very sick. Usually, it happens when the kitty has eaten something they shouldn't. "Injury" could mean physical trauma or ingesting something that injures the kidneys. It sounds to me like Creamsicle has the acute form, and with the supportive care you're giving, I bet she recovers fairly quickly. Good luck!
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It will be good for Creamsickle to be home with Tonga, you, and Mrs. LA. Please keep us posted, I’m hoping for a full recovery.
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Our cat had the "fever of unknown origin" a while back and after spending about $1000 she is fine. Still don't know what was wrong. Good Luck.

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I will keep up the prayer for Creamsicle when I mention my own pets Mauser and Atilla. I really hope the kitty recovers.
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Two of my cats were diagnosed with kidney disease about a year ago. One died last month at the age of 20.5 and the other, same age, is still alive. I was told the life expectancy is 2 weeks to 3 months but they made it much longer with veterinary kidney-health food, a water fountain and by doubling the dosage of their meds over the prescribed amount. I realize that the latter does carry a risk but likely not as much as kidney disease itself as shown by the fact that one made it a year and the other is still alive while being the equivalent of 98 years old. I hope she makes it.
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Sending kitty healing thoughts and prayers Creamsicle's way.
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Old 06-19-2018, 05:47 PM
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We just picked her up. She's lying on the floor looking lethargic. We have a bag of fluid, some tubing, and some 18 ga needles to keep her hydrated, and a little syringe for feeding her.

The vet gives her about a 45% chance of recovering.
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We just picked her up. She's lying on the floor looking lethargic. We have a bag of fluid, some tubing, and some 18 ga needles to keep her hydrated, and a little syringe for feeding her.

The vet gives her about a 45% chance of recovering.
Meds? My currently living cat also got lethargic quickly until he was given meds then he quickly got better.
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No meds (I asked). The vet said that the best thing to do is to give her the sub-q fluids, a familiar, safe environment, and love.

Mrs. L.A. is an RN, so I think she will be handling the fluids.
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There is a vet school in Washington, and I think there is a campus in Vancouver.* If she's not recovering, you might consider asking them to take a look at her.



*The brochure on their website mentions the location, but it's hard to get specifics about what is there. Sometimes website designers suck.
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Old 06-19-2018, 07:23 PM
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That's on the other end of the state.
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Old 06-19-2018, 08:07 PM
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She's not looking perky now. She looks worse. Mrs. L.A. said, 'I agree with Chris. I don't think she's going to make it.' We'll give her fluids, and syringe some food into her mouth. That's all we can do.
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Oh, Johnny, hugs and thoughts for all of you, but as many others have said, she may just need some time to rest and get fluids in her. Poor baby.
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She just got some fluids. She didn't like it one bit. I'll give her a little semi-liquified food in a couple of hours.
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I'm sorry she's not doing better. We're still keeping our fingers and paws crossed here. Hugs!
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We did subQ fluids for my cat when he went into kidney failure at a young age. t helped him a lot and did begin to feel better, though he hated the treatment. He lived about 5 more years and was pretty healthy right up to the end.

Good luck Creamscle...
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I just want to drop in and say good luck. But really, I feel like I know Creamsicle like one of my own cats. I don't think I've known any other animal on the internet for it's, almost, entire life. Hang in there Cream girl.
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Good luck Creamy.
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That's on the other end of the state.
Crap. Their main campus is over by Spokane/tri-cities, but I think that's also the other side of the state from you.

Keep pushing fluids. She'll hate it, but it will help if anything can. Do you know how to make a cat taco with a towel to hold her?

I'm so sorry this happened.
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I got about a cc of food into her.
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Old 06-19-2018, 10:38 PM
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Perk up, kitty! We're all pulling for you!

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My cat learned to tolerate her subQ fluids very well. She would sit, unrestrained, on my lap while I administered them. She hated her oral meds. That was much more traumatic for her.

{{{good vibes}}} to Creamsicle.

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