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Old 10-07-2018, 01:58 PM
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Doctor Who Season Season 11

I don't see a thread to discuss the episodes.

Today is the premiere of Jodie Whittaker.

What's your impression of the new doctor?

Chris Chibnall as the new show runner?

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Old 10-07-2018, 02:05 PM
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I'm not impressed that Chris Chibnall rehashed the Predator story. Couldn't he have been more original with his first new season script?

Jodie Whittaker did a nice job. Reminds me of David Tennant's doctor.

It'll be interesting to see how the season goes.

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Plot line fairly meh but the feel was good. So was the look.

Whittaker a bit too ... earnest ... and not enough of a sense of the disorientation that was being stated, or of the clicking. So far her affect seems a bit narrow in range. But she may find her footing.

Pacing also a bit too one speed trying to speed along.

Still hopeful. Whittaker succeeds at being a Doctor who happens to be female not the female Doctor, and that's good.

It was fine but I hope it gets better.
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Old 10-07-2018, 02:35 PM
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I know better than to make a judgement on a regeneration episode. Too much needs to be established, especially when you're establishing new companions.

That said, Whittaker seems interesting, even though she's still feeling out the role.

The story was serviceable, but not outstanding. I'm interested in seeing more, but then it would take a lot to make me stop watching.
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Old 10-07-2018, 02:45 PM
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I think this is the first time they've aired it in the UK and the US at the same time. In previous years, I think the US airing was the same day, but in the evening.

And yes, I noticed the similarity to Predator (and oddly enough, there's a remake of Predator in theaters right now).
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Old 10-07-2018, 02:51 PM
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I think Whitaker is off to a good start. I like that they aren't doing quirky companions this time around and I am pleased by the diversity of them. Even the white man is older and they don't seem to be going for ditzy grandpa or mean old coot stereotypes. Story was pretty bland but not so bad I am worried.
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Oh the companions have lots of promise! And I liked the fact that Ryan still couldn't ride the bike at the end with The Doctor looking on. Would've liked to feel more grief from Graham, more unmooring, but the character, an older man who may be a bit fearful in some ways but who is not afraid of strong women being in charge and is comfortable deferring to and being led by the strong woman, that's a good part of the team. Grace primed these two males well for being with an adventurous woman in charge.
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Old 10-07-2018, 03:32 PM
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I think Whitaker is off to a good start. I like that they aren't doing quirky companions this time around and I am pleased by the diversity of them. Even the white man is older and they don't seem to be going for ditzy grandpa or mean old coot stereotypes. Story was pretty bland but not so bad I am worried.
I agree.

I look forward to more Jodie (and I've been watching since the very first episode!)
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I think this is a 2 part episode? Obviously there's a story behind retrieving the TARDIDS.

I see real potential for delaying that for awhile. Focus a few episodes on the Doctor & assistants traveling on alien craft. Searching for her Tardis. There's some great and original stories there to be told.

Predator guy seemed to beam away. I wouldn't be surprised if we see him again.

It's cool having a Doctor that builds stuff. We haven't had that since David T's doctor.

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I don't see a thread to discuss the episodes.

Today is the premiere of Jodie Whittaker.

What's your impression of the new doctor?

Chris Chibnall as the new show runner?
Maybe its her accent, but was getting a nine vibe off her

conventional story with the tooth fairy scifi wise

Dont like that she talks too much and something about the end of the episode with the characters in vaccum, and they have to show a shot of jodi's hair blowing, like there is a big fan somewhere on the set.

Could not figure out if she was trying to be the doctor , or girl genius the steam punk character.
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A confident start. Things I liked:

- Jodie. Oh yes, she'll do.
- The companions seem like a good mix. I only know Bradley Walsh from popular tea-time quiz show The Chase, but it's good to have a grandad along for the ride, and he seems like a decent actor
- The music is much less overwhelming now Murray Gold has gone. It's way less orchestral, much more atmospheric
- We still haven't seen the opening credits yet, but judging from the end credits the theme music is way back to Delia Derbyshire. This is as it should be.

Things I didn't like:
- Eh, no I actually really liked this
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Old 10-07-2018, 06:07 PM
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And I liked the fact that Ryan still couldn't ride the bike at the end with The Doctor looking on.
Any thoughts on where that one bit of regeneration energy went? I was expecting it to go into Ryan to fix him, but that obviously wasn't it (and it didn't go into him anyway).

plot hole? I assume the new sonic is what let her disarm the DNA bombs, but I don't think she had built it when Tim Shaw transferred from the tentacle thing?
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I enjoyed it. A little sorry that Grace died, because I thought she was a great character, but her not featuring prominently in the promotional stuff as a companion pretty much telegraphed that.
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Old 10-07-2018, 07:50 PM
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Good Doctor, OK episode. I liked it, but it wasn't amazing. I am glad to see the show relaunch itself, much like it had to do when Matt Smith took over. New Doctor, new companions, new show-runner.

No opening credits or theme? Weird. I don't really know why they cut that of all things.
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Maybe its her accent, but was getting a nine vibe off her
"Lots of planets have a North."
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"Lots of planets have a North."
Should'nt that be lots of planets have a scotland, anyways she sounded much different than when she did attack the block
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Should'nt that be lots of planets have a scotland, anyways she sounded much different than when she did attack the block
She's from Yorkshire, and she was using her natural accent as 13.
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There's something off about it. It lacked the
typical cheese factor until the alien took off its mask. Story plodded along and was very conventional. Jodies is erviceable but will take some getting used to. Typical Doctor zaniness felt a bit forced but I'm sure she will grow into the role. I think with some time travel it will feel a little more familiar for better or worse.
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Old 10-08-2018, 02:14 AM
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It's a line from the first episode of the Ninth Doctor.

I think they chose Sheffield so that it would kind of justify her accent, almost as if where she first sets foot is what accent she'd have. Doesn't really hold up as precedent, but sort of makes sense otherwise.
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It's a line from the first episode of the Ninth Doctor.

I think they chose Sheffield so that it would kind of justify her accent, almost as if where she first sets foot is what accent she'd have. Doesn't really hold up as precedent, but sort of makes sense otherwise.
I want to say that there was a line about Tennant's Doctor having an Estuary accent because he had "imprinted" on Rose. But really, variations in accent are no big thing for the Doctor. The accent has been Scottish twice, Estuary once, and Northern once before. No reason Yorkshire shouldn't join the mix.

I liked the episode, though the plot was pretty derivative, without adding any sort of interesting spin that Doctor Who often tries to do when it borrows from other stuff. The companions were a good mix, and Jodie Whittaker seems promising.

I only watched the afternoon (in the US) airing, and haven't looked at the "Extended Edition" that was broadcast in the evening. Has anyone seen that? Does it add enough new material to justify watching it?
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Maybe its her accent, but was getting a nine vibe off her
I get more of a Ten vibe off her - that same sort of eager-puppy act that Tennant was good at.

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You must have had some interesting bedtime stories.

If you're going to compare it to previous episodes it needs to be against the first eps for the other NuWho Doctors. On that basis I thought this was a lot sharper and fast-paced than "The Eleventh Hour" and packed more substance than "Rose". It's probably comparable to "The Christmas Invasion", and I can't even remember Capaldi's first full episode. Anyway, it ticked all the boxes for a new Doctor episode - sets the tone for the Doctor, hooks in the new companions with appropriate backstory, and sets up a few potential plot points for the future (for example, there's no way we got told the Stenza are holding humans in stasis without there being a future rescue attempt). A solid start to the season. Here's hoping the writing quality goes up from here rather than down.

I'm not sure what the point of the "here's all the guest stars for the season" montage was. I didn't know who at least half of them were (and Susan Lynch, up next episode, is unrecognisable).

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Floating, not blowing. But I agree they all look way too okay to be in actual space.

As for talking too much, with the possible exception of Nine most of the NuWho Doctors have tended to babble. Twelve was annoying as hell in his preachy moments.

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Funny, but the Doctor has always been a jury-rig kind of guy, although usually it's "point the screwdriver and click". This time she built one from scratch.

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Old 10-08-2018, 08:41 AM
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It was a regeneration episode, so I didn't expect too much from it, except as an introduction to the new Doctor and companions.

As that, it did well. I liked Number 13, and the companions seem interesting. I was worried when Ryan began the episode talking about the most incredible woman he'd ever met, but was relieved that we didn't have a companion who was secretly in love with the Doctor. They all seem to be ordinary people caught up with The Doctor - in other words, proper companions, not Super Secret Extra Special People.
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As for floating in space, they may have been close to the TARDIS which, if I remember correctly, has an atmosphere bubble around it.
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As for floating in space, they may have been close to the TARDIS which, if I remember correctly, has an atmosphere bubble around it.
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I think this is a 2 part episode? Obviously there's a story behind retrieving the TARDIS.

I see real potential for delaying that for awhile. Focus a few episodes on the Doctor & assistants traveling on alien craft. Searching for her Tardis. There's some great and original stories there to be told.

Predator guy seemed to beam away. I wouldn't be surprised if we see him again.
Yes, interesting that there was no sign of the Tardis.

Wasn't the Predator stuck with the DNA bombs? So he'll decompose....
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- The companions seem like a good mix. I only know Bradley Walsh from popular tea-time quiz show The Chase, but it's good to have a grandad along for the ride, and he seems like a decent actor
Bradley Walsh is a versatile guy.
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Yes, interesting that there was no sign of the Tardis. ....
I'll have o replay but I thought we saw it fading in and out.
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Old 10-08-2018, 11:17 AM
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Ah. That's why he looked familiar - I've seen the UK:L&O
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It was better than most of the last season, so that is promising. Jodie Whittaker seemed solid enough. It at least was good enough for a few more episodes.
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Also former Whoniverse evil alien Elijah Spellman / Odd Bob the Clown / the Pied Piper (he appeared in different guises) in The Sarah Jane Adventures episode "The Day of the Clown". I'm not particularly clown-phobic but Odd Bob is one of the few Doctor Who villains to seriously creep me out. The character abducted children and tucked them away in another dimension to feed off their fear until they faded away, which was creepy enough. But Walsh played Odd Bob with an odd tilt of the head and a quiet Texan twang that, without ever being overt about it, projected an amoral glee in the pain and anguish he was causing that was chilling.

A pity that the rest of the episode was awful and he was defeated with a magic rock.
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For an episode primarily focused on character development and also attempting to introduce new fans to the universe I am quite impressed.

Jodie did a great job as expected and I am betting that most people who had concerns will be less concerned about the casting even if the change in show runners impact is still to be seen.
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With a new Doctor, a whole new set of companions, and a new showrunner, I did not expect it would be terrific. I expected an OK episode as the new series just starts to find its legs. But the episode was actually better than I thought it would be, if (as mentioned above) it was just a riff on "Predator."

Jodie is good in the main role, but I agree that some of the Doctor's typical "zaniness" is a little forced. But that's probably imposed upon her as a continuity thing...Chibnall telling her to "channel Tenant or Matt Smith a bit." I expect she'll find her own characterization soon enough.

Her speech towards the end (paraphrasing) "We can change! We can keep the essence of ourselves while evolving and becoming different." That seemed like a meta-message to the haters out there who are furious about a female Doctor. I felt it was a bit too "on the nose" and probably unnecessary.

The show looks terrific! I can't remember an episode that looked as cinematic as this one did (barring a few minor bad SFX shots - the alien's face with the teeth, etc.)

My one big concern is that there are now too many regular characters. I fear it's going to end up like Peter Davidson's era of the Doctor - the hero and three sidekicks and simply not enough episodes or time to flesh them all out or to give all of them something meaningful to do. As it was, this episode had too many scenes of the Doctor running around doing things with a whole gaggle of companions (excuse me, friends) standing in the background looking puzzled.

Of the three new companions, Ryan stands out the most. But perhaps that's because the story gave him a little more attention and at least a rudimentary story arc. So far, Graham and Yaz seem like they'd be decent secondary characters like Mickey or Wilf, but there's nothing too exciting about them. I hope that changes.

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I've seen complaints that Jodie's accent is hard to understand.

I didn't have any problems. I didn't pay any attention to an accent. None of the Doctor's accents have confused me

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I stopped watching directly after she said -

"Only idiots carry knives...."

not sure if I'm in grumpy old man mode or what - but that just kinda ticked me off.

It's still on the DVR, I'll likely watch it again after my nappy.
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"Only idiots carry knives...."

not sure if I'm in grumpy old man mode or what - but that just kinda ticked me off.
Think about it. Which group of knife-carriers has the Doctor primarily encountered?

Soldiers, and pretty much the only competent soldier ever encountered has been the Brigadier.
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"Only idiots carry knives...."

not sure if I'm in grumpy old man mode or what - but that just kinda ticked me off.

It's still on the DVR, I'll likely watch it again after my nappy.
No offence but ya, grumpy old man mode. The Dr has often held the hypocritical view on weapons and soldiers, abhors violence and then destroys billions of lives or entire civilizations.

This conundrum has been mentioned and explored enough to make it expected, and the fact that Sheffield is known for it's knives; the statement was probably meant to directly demonstrate the Doctors lack of social refinement.

This comment in Sheffield would be like setting an episode in Wisconsin and dissing cheese.

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I really liked Whittaker as the Doctor. The alien predator story was kinda crap, but the overall look and feel of the episode was good. Looking forward to more.
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No offence but ya, grumpy old man mode. The Dr has often held the hypocritical view on weapons and soldiers, abhors violence and then destroys billions of lives or entire civilizations.
Speaking of which, why did she give the crane operator shit when he knocked Tim Shaw off the crane? I think the fact that he was being hunted Predator style does in fact "give him the right to do that".

Also, am I to understand that after hundreds of years of invasions and incursions by Daleks, Cybermen, and dozens of other civilizations, every single one of them was concealed such that to this day the concept of aliens from other planets is still considered absurd?
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Also, am I to understand that after hundreds of years of invasions and incursions by Daleks, Cybermen, and dozens of other civilizations, every single one of them was concealed such that to this day the concept of aliens from other planets is still considered absurd?
It is a show about a time traveling alien with a time machine that looks like a 1960's police phone box. I personally don't really bother looking too closely at the suspension of disbelief. As time travel is absolutely impossible from what we currently know it wouldn't make it very far and enjoy the show.

Someone else will have to give you their opinion.

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Think about it. Which group of knife-carriers has the Doctor primarily encountered?

Soldiers, and pretty much the only competent soldier ever encountered has been the Brigadier.
The Doctor's companion, Leela, carried a knife. On the other hand, regeneration sometimes changes the Doctor's opinions, and the Doctor sometimes seems to say things just to say them, without being very serious about them.

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Also, am I to understand that after hundreds of years of invasions and incursions by Daleks, Cybermen, and dozens of other civilizations, every single one of them was concealed such that to this day the concept of aliens from other planets is still considered absurd?
At this point in the series, I think most people are aware that aliens exist, but don't expect to meet them. On the other hand, public knowledge of aliens (which clearly did exist in the Tennant era) might have been erased by any number of subsequent events that either affected the minds of everyone on Earth, or actually affected the timeline.

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"Only idiots carry knives...."
Yeah, the BBC shoehorning in a gratuitous PSA there. Or covering their asses against people bitching about characters with knives.

In a similar vein, I will admit to enjoying some schadenfreude at expense of the "My favourite character is a time-travelling, body-swapping, two-hearted, millennia-old alien...but having it be a woman stretches credulity!" crowd, but I also thought the little digs in the show itself about needing to accept change were forced, clumsy and unnecessary.
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Leela. She carried a knife, which she used... a lot. Almost to the point where you would say, "This is a childrens' show?"
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I really like that they didn't go the route of 'oh look, the Doctor is a girl now, lets talk about purses and heels and girly things' which I was worried about. They treated the new gender the same as old changes like "am I a ginger now?" and don't look like they're going to make it a gimmick. Like 13 quite well so far, she's a little off but it's a regeneration episode so that's expected.

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Speaking of which, why did she give the crane operator shit when he knocked Tim Shaw off the crane? I think the fact that he was being hunted Predator style does in fact "give him the right to do that".
The Doctor has always held a hypocritical and grossly unrealistic position about other people defending themselves. Ten brought down a prime minister for blowing up a ship of violent aliens that were going to kill a big chunk of the population and enslave the rest, eleven went on a lecture when a parent who's child was kidnapped fought against the kidnapper, all of them do the repeated 'well, I could wipe out the Daleks, but maybe THIS time' they'll change speeches after the Daleks wipe out a city worth of people, and so on. It's the same thing with the 'only idiots carry knives' line. The Doctor is happy to have companions who carry a variety of weapons - Jamie with a claymore, Leela with her knife, Ace with the exposives, Jack with his ARSEenal, Rory the Roman, and so on, she just doesn't carry them herself and acts smug about getting someone else to do the dirty work.

It's a thing that I definitely disagree with philosophically, but it's 100% consistent with the character.

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Also, am I to understand that after hundreds of years of invasions and incursions by Daleks, Cybermen, and dozens of other civilizations, every single one of them was concealed such that to this day the concept of aliens from other planets is still considered absurd?
There have been some mind wipes, timeline rewrites, and active cover-ups of all of the various incursions. I think the Who world knows that there are aliens and sometimes they turn up trying to conquer London, but they're not common and no one expects them in the middle of nowhere. It wasn't 'an alien on Earth' that they found unbelievable, it was 'an alien in this local area'. It's a bit silly with how prominent alien invasions are in the new series (70s/80s UNIT actions were small enough to believe they hushed up), but they like having the locals be surprised 'like us' so isn't likely to change on the show unless the real world starts having aliens pop up.
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The Doctor has always held a hypocritical and grossly unrealistic position about other people defending themselves. Ten brought down a prime minister for blowing up a ship of violent aliens that were going to kill a big chunk of the population and enslave the rest, eleven went on a lecture when a parent who's child was kidnapped fought against the kidnapper, all of them do the repeated 'well, I could wipe out the Daleks, but maybe THIS time' they'll change speeches after the Daleks wipe out a city worth of people, and so on. It's the same thing with the 'only idiots carry knives' line. The Doctor is happy to have companions who carry a variety of weapons - Jamie with a claymore, Leela with her knife, Ace with the exposives, Jack with his ARSEenal, Rory the Roman, and so on, she just doesn't carry them herself and acts smug about getting someone else to do the dirty work.
Even more hypocritical is the fact that, right before she gave Karl shit for pushing Tim Shaw off the crane, she revealed that she had transferred the DNA bombs into Tim Shaw, so that when he activated them, they detonated within his own body. Somehow that's okay, but knocking a guy who was trying to kill you off of a high place isn't.

I won't bother to link to it, but there is a YouTube video that's fairly easy to find if you search for it, showing that the Doctor in fact has a long history of using guns against various enemies, even while preaching self-righteously against ever doing such a barbaric thing.
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Old 10-09-2018, 09:11 AM
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Even more hypocritical is the fact that, right before she gave Karl shit for pushing Tim Shaw off the crane, she revealed that she had transferred the DNA bombs into Tim Shaw, so that when he activated them, they detonated within his own body. Somehow that's okay, but knocking a guy who was trying to kill you off of a high place isn't.

I won't bother to link to it, but there is a YouTube video that's fairly easy to find if you search for it, showing that the Doctor in fact has a long history of using guns against various enemies, even while preaching self-righteously against ever doing such a barbaric thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgC_XgL9LiA
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Overall I liked it. My wife and I were laughing/smiling more at the little jokes and clever one-liners more than we have in the last several years with The Moffat Age getting worn and tired. Props to Chris Chibnall for pulling that off. The story of the predator dude was serviceable if not memorable. Honestly other than the blue-face-with-teeth, generally forgettable.

I'm liking Whittaker as the new doctor. *I* was getting a Matt Smith "manic pixie" vibe. So given the variety here, maybe she's doing a decent job blending the various personality traits together. And the "companions standing around looking confused while the doctor popped up doing crazy things" reminds me of something I have on the tip of my ... (what's this? oh yeah) tongue, but Whittaker is pulling it off. I'm still not very fond of her new costume, but that's hardly the first time that's happened. Hopefully it'll get tweaked and changed like Capaldi's first outfit.

Overall, I vote the episode a strong B. Not one of the absolute best, but very serviceable and a solid rollout for the new Doctor and Companions.
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Ah, the Doctor Who/Geto Boys crossover the world has been waiting for!
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Mr. Benton and Mike Yates.
That's a total of four out of how many?

And Leela was descended from humans who had been separated from civilization for so long that they reverted to tribalism so she gets a pass for not knowing about any weapons other than pointy objects.

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The story of the predator dude was serviceable if not memorable. Honestly other than the blue-face-with-teeth, generally forgettable.
What I think elevated the predator dude somewhat above "generic alien menace" level was that he wasn't just an alien menace; he was also a pompous jerk who liked to think of himself as a mighty hunter but still had to "cheat" to win his game. He wasn't Predator; he was Predator's less competent, more pathetic younger brother.
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