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Old 03-10-2019, 07:10 PM
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annoying everyday phrases


In the many years of this forum this must have been covered but -

People that don't get a sandwich, they "grab" one.

They don't get in the shower, they "jump in".

"Level playing field". Where is this unlevel playing field?

"At the end of the day...." What about the beginning of the day, or the middle? What does time have to do with it?

If I thought about it I could some up with other examples, but I see a lot of intelligent people using these phrases, how can they not know they are speaking in cliches?
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I incessantly post this every time one of these threads comes up:

"Can I ask you a question?"

The usual dudes will be along soon to comment; Hey, guys!

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Men and women in uniform. If you mean soldiers, say soldiers, if you mean firefighters say firefighters. Burger King employees of both sexes wear a uniform.

Any and all business buzzwords and phrases.

Increasingly aggressive terms for disagreements in news print. No, Trump didn’t get assaulted with a question and Kim Kardashian did not destroyed with a clapback.

Also, clapback.

‘Hacking’ used to describe anything other than a computer crime.
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I thought of another one - "On American soil." What the hell does dirt have to do with it? Can someone, at least once, say "the worst terrorist attack in the United States"?
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I hate it when people say ‘my bad,’ or ‘bae’ or ‘boo’ instead of baby/babe. And when did saying ‘sick ‘ come to mean the same thing as ‘cool’? Also, people throw around OCD and bipolar too much with little knowledge about the actual disorders.
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'Have a blessed day', no, I want to have a horrid day, thank you very much.
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People that don't get a sandwich, they "grab" one.
The self-checkout machines at my local Target remind me to "grab" my receipt.
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I hate it when people say ‘my bad,’ or ‘bae’ or ‘boo’ instead of baby/babe. And when did saying ‘sick ‘ come to mean the same thing as ‘cool’? Also, people throw around OCD and bipolar too much with little knowledge about the actual disorders.
I have a poster, details not important, and when my stepson's friend saw it he said it was a "sick" poster. I thought he was insulting me until I realized it meant "cool"

And yes, it now seems cool, or sick, for people to say they have OCD. Just because you see a poster on your wall that is crooked and you straighten it up doesn't mean you have OCD. If you are driving to work and feel compelled to go back home and straighten it, yes you have OCD. Or are bipolar.

And BTW, is there any slang expression that has had as long a life as "cool." It was cool in the 50s and it's cool now. No one ever says "nifty" or "swell" anymore.
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^ I still say "nifty." I like getting funny looks.
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"Surrounding."

A few years ago I started noticing people saying "surrounding" to mean "about" or "involving," and now I can't un-notice it. If it's not on all sides of something, literally or figuratively, then it's not surrounding something, literally or figuratively.
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And BTW, is there any slang expression that has had as long a life as "cool." It was cool in the 50s and it's cool now. No one ever says "nifty" or "swell" anymore.
I worked with a writer who's pushing 80, and was a jazz musician in Brooklyn in the 50s.

We asked him about... well, we started by asking about weed in the pre-hippie "Beat" days, but we quickly broadened to clothes and language that faded by now. He could rattle off phrases like "Don't get wigged, Jackson, but that back seat bingo doll? She's a bang-tail gone cat, but she's copping the cube bit"

But "cool"? He was so tickled that the greatest word from his young wild days was still with us. With exactly the same meaning.

Hepcats aren't hep any more, Groovy wasn't actually groovy for long, but Cool has always been cool.
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Hey now, THIS cat still uses "groovy", it's a peachy keen word and I dig it, so y'all just keep on truckin and I'll catch ya on the flip flop ok?

Besides, can "cool" really be considered slang anymore?
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"Having said that..." and the similar "That being said...". Especially when someone says it almost every other sentence. Ugh!
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Old 03-11-2019, 12:15 AM
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My old boss said the following annoying phrases constantly:

This is neither here nor there, but...

Sue can you reach out to Bob in accounting?

It is what it is.

But what bugged me most were his nonsensical "air quotes". He would gesture them constantly, but sometimes he would put quotes on words where it made no sense. For example:

I have a meeting with the "new hire". (when he had a meeting with the new hire)

We can discuss the financial plan after the "conference call". (when we were going to discuss the financial plan after the conference call)

It took enormous restraint not to strangle him.
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Old 03-11-2019, 12:38 AM
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I'm going to "jump in" and be contrary, because it's my nature.

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"Level playing field". Where is this unlevel playing field?
When playing sports casually with friends in any old field, a slight slope can give one side a noticeable advantage.
When it comes to professional sports I doubt any team could get away with having a sloped surface, but teams switch sides partly to prevent this kind of thing being an issue.

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"At the end of the day...." What about the beginning of the day, or the middle? What does time have to do with it?
It just means "ultimately". Other languages have similar expressions.
It's the subtle distinction between "we must work towards this" and "we must do this now".

Though I would agree some people just use it as rhetorical filler.
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Old 03-11-2019, 01:16 AM
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"I'm just saying". Most commonly used as a lame comeback by the user of said phrase in response to a solid argument the user can't counter logically or factually.

Something like: ( husband/wife or BF/GF )

"Hurry hurry! You're taking too long to get ready and going to make us late!"

"I'm not taking any longer than you did, and anyway we're WAY ahead of the crazy early time YOU insisted on us leaving"

"I'm just saying!"
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Old 03-11-2019, 01:53 AM
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‘Hacking’ used to describe anything other than a computer crime.
My view is precisely the opposite. "Hacking", in the sense of playful messing around with machines, is the earlier use. "Hacking" in the specific sense of computer crimes is a later corruption. There's no reason at all to endorse this latter use, and certainly not at the expense of the former.

A similar thing happened with "meme," and I have the same complaint. The original sense was a self-replicating set of ideas, like religion or language. But it's been corrupted into the boring special case of "images with funny text that grandma forwards to you".
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The unlevel playing field is in a town in Oklahoma and it's the one the band gets to practice on. Now you know. It is so unlevel that on rainy days, when it's slippery, band members might actually slide off. The football players get the more level one. To practice. For games everybody gets a level playing field. (Even the band, at halftime.)

Another unlevel playing field is the horrible tennis courts in the park nearest to me. There is an uphill side and a downhill side. However it doss make it easier to collect your balls. They all roll to the net on one side and the fence on the other side.

it is what it is.
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My view is precisely the opposite. "Hacking", in the sense of playful messing around with machines, is the earlier use. "Hacking" in the specific sense of computer crimes is a later corruption. There's no reason at all to endorse this latter use, and certainly not at the expense of the former.

A similar thing happened with "meme," and I have the same complaint. The original sense was a self-replicating set of ideas, like religion or language. But it's been corrupted into the boring special case of "images with funny text that grandma forwards to you".
Sitnam's gripe no doubt stems from all of the "life hack" and similar uses of the word. Tips & Tricks are not hacks. Favorable practices are not hacks. Adding jam to a ham sandwhich is not a "food hack".

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Sitnam's gripe no doubt stems from all of the "life hack" and similar uses of the word. Tips & Tricks are not hacks. Favorable practices are not hacks. Adding jam to a ham sandwhich is not a "food hack".
Maybe. Personally, my problem with "life hacks" isn't the name; it's that it's always some stupid thing that either takes longer or is more costly than doing it the normal way, and so the "hack" aspect is completely backwards (either that, or the hack is completely mundane: "Hack an early retirement by not spending money on stupid shit and then saving it!"). If "life hacks" were genuinely useful and clever, they'd earn the hack moniker.
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One of the supervisors at my job never misses an opportunity to let someone know "I get it". Another uses a variation- she wants you to know: "... and I get that."

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"... the other side of the aisle..." - as if one would burst into flames by mentioning the other party's name.
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The self-checkout machines at my local Target remind me to "grab" my receipt.
Seriously? Wow. That's a new low. A Target employee saying that? Sure. OK. But a machine programmed to give you that instruction? Goddamn, we live in a culturally barren world.
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Tips & Tricks are not hacks. Favorable practices are not hacks. Adding jam to a ham sandwhich is not a "food hack".
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and the b-b-b-b-b-b-butta."


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Sitnam's gripe no doubt stems from all of the "life hack" and similar uses of the word. Tips & Tricks are not hacks. Favorable practices are not hacks. Adding jam to a ham sandwhich is not a "food hack".
Obligatory clip: Andy's Life Hacks
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There are too many workplace cliches to list but the most annoying ones are:

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Soldiers are in the army. Sailors are in the navy. Marines are in the Marines. Airmen are in the air force. So don't say "soldiers" if you mean "members of the military."

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And when did saying ‘sick ‘ come to mean the same thing as ‘cool’?
At least 30 years ago. And that's just when I started hearing it, could have been earlier.
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Carlin explained it best but "have a nice day". I will and will continue to reply "NO!"

More a word than phrase but "ginormance" or however the Hell you spell it. Use that expression and I will avoid you at all costs.
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The word "porn" used in non-sexual ways: food porn, torture porn (for movies like Saw), etc.

Misspelling "etc." as "ect."
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More a word than phrase but "ginormance" or however the Hell you spell it. Use that expression and I will avoid you at all costs.
You're thinking of "ginormous," which is a portmanteau word of "giant" + "enormous." But you're perfectly free to hate it if you want to.
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^ I still say "nifty." I like getting funny looks.
It's the ginchiest!
When I was a young'un we said things were "killer".


Annoying everyday phrase I hate: People being quoted on the news are always "speaking out" or "breaking their silence". No, they're just commenting. I associate the phrase "speaking out" with standing up against injustice.
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"Reaching out" makes me want to reach out and choke the shit out of the people using it. We don't phone, contact, email or otherwise speak with people. We must 'reach out' to them, because we're all just so fucking caring and made of fucking stardust.
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It's the ginchiest!
When I was a young'un we said things were "killer".
<snip>

I am so far behind the times: I've been using "killer" a lot lately at restaurants when the shrimp or the limas are especially good.
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As we're in the world of irrational anger:

I do shifts behind the bar at a social club that I'm a member of; and I can't tell you how pissed off it makes me when some young person wanders up to the bar and says, "Can I get a [drink]...."

NO! Why do you think I'm behind the goddamn bar? Tell me what you want and I'LL get you the drink!

Y'see, it's because of this sort of provocation that, whenever any unsuspecting punter asks me "May I have a glass of tap water?" - I'll get them by asking back "Hot or cold?"

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I'm irritated by the recent trend to transform the noun "gift" into a verb ("gifted", as in "We gifted my 4-year-old nephew a .44 magnum Smith & Wesson revolver").

There are already perfectly good words for that: give/gave/given.
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I'm irritated by the recent trend to transform the noun "gift" into a verb ("gifted", as in "We gifted my 4-year-old nephew a .44 magnum Smith & Wesson revolver").

There are already perfectly good words for that: give/gave/given.
I feel bad, now, about undermining a fellow sufferer's ire. But my 1947 Shorter Oxford (first pub 1933) has the transitive verb Gift To endow with gifts, to endow or present with; to make a present of. Chiefly Sc[ottish] 1699. So not a terribly recent transformation. But I agree, it's one of those currently trendy things that just sets your teeth on edge.

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I feel bad, now, about undermining a fellow sufferer's ire. But my 1947 Shorter Oxford (first pub 1933) has the transitive verb Gift To endow with gifts, to endow or present with; to make a present of. Chiefly Sc[ottish] 1699. So not a terribly recent transformation. But I agree, it's one of those currently trendy things that just sets your teeth on edge.

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Yeah, it's the recent trendiness (at least in my perception) that irritates me.
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Speaking of recent trends - why oh WHY in the wide wide world of sports does every bleedin' sentence these days have to start with the word "So..."?

Even people of my age group seem to have gotten suckered into using it. WTF is the point? What does it add to a statement or sentence? "Hey, millenials use it so it must be cool and "with it" and I have to appear cool and "with it" at all costs". Hey Boomers, as pointed out upthread, "cool" IS still cool. "So..." is NOT. It's a stall and a time-waster.


Anybody?


Bueller?
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"Reach out" seems vaguely creepy to me.

"Have a Blessed Day" is the one I hate most.

The one I can't stop using: "It is what it is."
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The one that frosts my gourd the most is "general consensus of opinion". There's a thundering redundancy everywhere you look in that one.

I find myself using "frosts my gourd" more and more as I get older.

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Another that makes me crazy - starting a sentence with "I mean" when the speaker isn't explaining something they just said.

"What do you think if the situation in Damfranistan?"
"I mean, the carnage is horrifying!"


It's a worthless verbal crutch!!!
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Speaking of recent trends - why oh WHY in the wide wide world of sports does every bleedin' sentence these days have to start with the word "So..."?

Even people of my age group seem to have gotten suckered into using it. WTF is the point? What does it add to a statement or sentence? "Hey, millenials use it so it must be cool and "with it" and I have to appear cool and "with it" at all costs". Hey Boomers, as pointed out upthread, "cool" IS still cool. "So..." is NOT. It's a stall and a time-waster.


Anybody?


Bueller?
Starting off (verbal) conversations with "filler" rather than just launching straight into your topic is Absolutely Fucking Fantastic and I applaud everyone who does it. My problem is people who just start talking to me when I'm doing something else, and are rattling off crucial information during the time that I am:

*processing the fact that they've started a conversation with me
*disengaging my brain from whatever it happened to be doing
*turning the 'listen to words' function of my brain on

"So" is just as good a filler as anything else. If it transfers over to situations where it's not strictly needed (like writing) ... *shrug*, people get into habits, no big deal.


My bugbear of the day is in the subject title - 'everyday'. Not as in the OP's totally correct and unexceptionable use, but as in "I brush my teeth everyday." No!! No you don't! Every ... space ... day - once each day. Everynospaceday - normal, usual, common. And of course a spellcheck won't pick up on it.
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I thought of another one - "On American soil." What the hell does dirt have to do with it? Can someone, at least once, say "the worst terrorist attack in the United States"?
Well, one of the worst attacks on American soil didn't happen in the US:
https://www.britannica.com/event/198...mbassy-bombing
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"Level playing field". Where is this unlevel playing field?
Nitpick - it's usually "level the playing field". I haven't heard of anyone using "level playing field", although I will admit that someone might do so.

And while unlevel playing fields are going to be almost non-existent in a physical sense, they are the norm in most non-physical arenas that we deal with.
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