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You'll get no argument from me. Got the album the first day it came out and it's been my favorite album ever since.

One of my favorite Quad-related stories is from the Kennedy Center program honoring The Who. As Bettye LaVette was bringing down the house with her wonderful version of Love Reign O'er Me, Barbara Streisand, who was sitting next to Pete, leaned over and asked, "Did you really write that?"

(ps: the new Who album comes out on Friday...can't wait!)

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It's not even the best Who album ever recorded.
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It's not even the best Who album ever recorded.
My thoughts exactly.
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So, I just listened to the full album. What really, really stands out for me is Keith's drumming.

Pete has criticized Keith because he couldn't keep time. I'm not a musician or a drummer, but Keith never was a Ringo-style drummer. Just listen to any track from Quadrophenia and Keith is all over the place: in a good way! In fact, his drumming may be what really attracted me to the album in the first place.
The drums on Quadrophenia are unlike any other album. The drums are incredibly present, and not just a background metronome.
I've never heard a more prolific drummer.

Ringo - solid and steady.
John Bonham - same, but loud and powerful.
Stewart Copeland - talented and interesting.
John Densmore - got a jazzy touch.

Zak Starkey does a really good job of filling in for Keith, much better than Kenny Jones.

Ok. Well, that's my position on drummers, for now. I can't think of another drummer that brought so much to the song than Keith Moon. He was eclectic, but it totally worked for The Who.
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Absolutely up there with the very best.

Hard to pick a favourite but 5:15 is something very special in terms of an epic intro and Townsend's finest lyrics. It never gets old.
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A good album, but Who's Next, Tommy, and Who Are You are better.
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Ok. Well, that's my position on drummers, for now. I can't think of another drummer that brought so much to the song than Keith Moon. He was eclectic, but it totally worked for The Who.
Absolutely. I'm not that interested in technical proficiency, it is vastly overrated.
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My favorite album. The best album. My desert island album. I never tire of it.
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Hard to pick a favourite but 5:15 is something very special in terms of an epic intro and Townsend's finest lyrics....
Not to mention it was the live showcase for some amazing Entwistle bass solos.
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Probably not the best ever recorded but close enough that Iím not going to argue.
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Old 12-04-2019, 02:21 PM
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Just listened to it while irking. EVERY song gives me goosebumps.
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Just shoveled the driveway. I've moved on to the second best album ever recorded: Abbey Road.
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The BBC did a pretty good documentary on the album back in 2012

Part 1
Part 2
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Old 12-04-2019, 02:55 PM
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Oh, that looks good. I'll watch it later, thanks.

Have you (all of you) ever seen the movie? Fantastic.
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Just listened to it while irking. EVERY song gives me goosebumps.
Who did you irk?
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Old 12-04-2019, 03:24 PM
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34 Better Albums, there are probably more, I did this quick:

Wish You were Here, Dark side of the Moon, Animals & The Wall.
Zeppelin I to IV, Houses of the Holy & Physical Graffiti
Sgt. Peppers, The White Album, Rubber Soul, Magical Mystery Tour, Abbey Road & Let it Be;
Close to the Edge & Fragile (Yes)
Crosby, Stills & Nash
Electric Ladyland & Are You Experienced
Who's Next
The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars
What's Going On Marvin Gaye
Days of Future Passed (Moody Blues)
The Doors
Paranoid (Black Sabbath)
Disraeli Gears Cream
John Barleycorn Must Die Traffic
Rhapsody In Blue /American in Paris Leonard Bernstein
Soul to Soul Stevie Ray Vaughan
Live at Fillmore East, Eat a Peach, Brothers and Sisters Allman Brothers

Contenders for better: Hotel California, Rumors, The Joshua Tree, Their Satanic Majesties Request, Tommy, Night at the Opera, Born to Run,
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What Exit?, next time you're in Charlotte, you get beer. That's a mighty fine list.
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Old 12-04-2019, 04:14 PM
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That is mighty fine list. But I like Quadrophenia.
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What Exit?, next time you're in Charlotte, you get beer. That's a mighty fine list.
Different strokes for different folks, but I don't think I've ever seen anyone else rank all those other Beatles albums ahead of Revolver.
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My favorite album. The best album. My desert island album. I never tire of it.
Where exactly is this desert island? Tropics, I'd hope, without any predators. But with plenty of water and fruit and ... a record player? If it's got great speakers (and a powerful enough current bush to be plugged into), then I'm going!

And thanks to this thread I've got a handy list of albums to ...take? Or are they just there in a vintage Peaches crate when I wash ashore?

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Where exactly is this desert island? Tropics, I'd hope, without any predators. But with plenty of water and fruit and ... a record player? If it's got great speakers (and a powerful enough current bush to be plugged into), then I'm going!

And thanks to this thread I've got a handy list of albums to ...take? Or are they just there in a vintage Peaches crate when I wash ashore?

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You may not of heard of this, but there is a long running BBC radio 4 program called "desert island discs" where the presenter talks to the guest about their career and musical interests. They have to imagine they are castaways on an island and they get so many records to take with them. They talk about which ones and why.

Here is the background, here is the link to the BBC site. It has been running for over 75 years.
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It's my favorite album by far. They had tours in 1997 and 2012 where they played the whole album. And I got to meet the band after the 1997 show. Who's Next is a close second .
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A good album, but Who's Next, Tommy, and Who Are You are better.
I might quibble about Who Are You, but the other two are far superior to Quadrophenia.
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Not to mention it was the live showcase for some amazing Entwistle bass solos.
and how! It is a pounding, thunderous beast from start to finish. Few songs capture teenage hormonal rage as well.
And it goes by in a flash even though it is 5 minutes long. The only slight dissapointment I have is that they could've put another few bars in and stopped it at 5 minutes and 15 seconds but that maybe is a touch gimmicky.

It is probably as long as it needs to be and no more.

I love that track.
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That is mighty fine list. But I like Quadrophenia.
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Different strokes for different folks, but I don't think I've ever seen anyone else rank all those other Beatles albums ahead of Revolver.
I wasn't ordering the albums, just listing those I think are better than Quadrophenia. It was the order I thought of them in.
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Heh...I''m listening to Julie Mason on SiriusXM right now and her guest just mentioned that he likes listening to Quadrophenia in headphones when he's working out. Julie's reply: "Nice!"
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I wasn't ordering the albums, just listing those I think are better than Quadrophenia. It was the order I thought of them in.
But you didn't list Revolver at all, implying (though this may be a logical leap on my part) that you thought the six albums you did list were better than Quadrophenia but that Revolver was not.
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I don't agree (I also rank Who's Next ahead of it, plus several other albums). I don't think it's a crazy opinion, though.
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You may not of heard of this, but there is a long running BBC radio 4 program called "desert island discs" where the presenter talks to the guest about their career and musical interests. They have to imagine they are castaways on an island and they get so many records to take with them. They talk about which ones and why.

Here is the background, here is the link to the BBC site. It has been running for over 75 years.
Should I correct your grammar in the first sentence, or just slink away unceremoniously?

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It's my favorite album by far. They had tours in 1997 and 2012 where they played the whole album. And I got to meet the band after the 1997 show. Who's Next is a close second .
Wow. You met Roger and Pete! That's great! John was still alive too.
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One thing never mentioned about those Desert Island picks...everyone ends up on the same island at the same time. What a musical mess!

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Ok. Well, that's my position on drummers, for now. I can't think of another drummer that brought so much to the song than Keith Moon. He was eclectic, but it totally worked for The Who.
It took me awhile to get used to him, but nobody sounds like Keith Moon, and the Who never sounded to me like the Who again after he was gone. I'm not the biggest Who fan (though I do like them a good bit), but I really feel Moon made that band complete and formed the backbone of the chaotic energy they had. He was truly one-of-a-kind and he fit perfectly in with the Who.
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Who did you irk?
I think peedin meant "twerking." Quadrophenia isn't the best album ever recorded, but it might be the best one for twerking to.
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But you didn't list Revolver at all, implying (though this may be a logical leap on my part) that you thought the six albums you did list were better than Quadrophenia but that Revolver was not.
Oh, well that is one I missed, I'm sure there are others. Funny thing is I thought I had included it. Not sure where I would put Revolver on the Beatles list, that's tough, but above MMT for sure and Rubber Soul. We're talking Beatles, they're incredible.

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When the album came out quadrophonic sound systems were popular for a short time. It seems that some people assumed the album was recorded in quad sound so they put "stereo" in small letters on the top of the album cover.

Quad sound never caught on for various reasons . One reason for the failure was there were multiple quad sound systems and two of them were named SQ and QS which were easy to confuse.
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That's right. But Quadrophenia was a play on the term schizophrenia.

Schizophrenia, at the time, meant dual personalities to some people. Quadrophenia was an attempt to play upon four personalities: namely the four band members.
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So that's why I'm here, the bleeding boat drifted off and I'm stuck here in the pissing rain with my life flashing before me. Only it ain't flashing, it's crawling. Slowly. Now it's just the bare bones of what I am.

A tough guy, a helpless dancer.
A romantic, is it me for a moment?
A bloody lunatic, I'll even carry your bags.
A beggar, a hypocrite, love reign over me.

Schizophrenic? I'm bleeding Quadrophrenic.

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Well, wherever it is ranked, it's quite a piece of work IMO.

What Exit? I want that play list. Heck, I want to buy a weekend's block of airtime at a radio station to go through it.



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Have you (all of you) ever seen the movie? Fantastic.
(raises hand) Caught it on second run at a campus film fest a couple of years after it first came out.



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Where exactly is this desert island? Tropics, I'd hope, without any predators.
The beach is a place where a man can feel he's the only soul in the world that's real. Let me fall into the ocean, let me go down to the sea...

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Not to mention it was the live showcase for some amazing Entwistle bass solos.
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What Exit? I want that play list. Heck, I want to buy a weekend's block of airtime at a radio station to go through it.
The bulk of that is on my CD players, I have a 200 & 300 CD Carousel players ganged together with a little over 400 CDs loaded. I bought a lot of CDs last millennium. Though I think I have to get one of the units straightened out. It isn't working correctly.
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I'm going to cue it up and have a re-listen. It's been decades since I last heard Quadrophenia, so need to see how it and Who's Next and Who Are You and maybe even Tommy stand my test of time. That said, immediately I can hear Love Reign Over Me and 5:15

As an aside I worked college radio for 4 years and music was a huge part of my life. Then I moved to China for 20 years and pretty much only listened to blues. Every once in a while I get jonesing for what I grew up listening to in the 70's, and it is weird that what I remember as being great was not the album that is now my favorite. For example, the Led Zep album that is clearly my favorite today is Presence (but if you asked me before I went thru the catalogue I would have said Physical Graffiti). YMMV. Just an observation of mine.
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The bulk of that is on my CD players, I have a 200 & 300 CD Carousel players ganged together with a little over 400 CDs loaded. I bought a lot of CDs last millennium. Though I think I have to get one of the units straightened out. It isn't working correctly.
Maybe I'm doing the math wrong, but that's < 350gb. You can fit all that on a single 1tb drive, almost 3 times. Totally uncompressed. Rip those disks then store them somewhere safe, boomer
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No.

Closer is the best album ever recorded. And I can pick another fifty before I get anywhere near those dinosaurs.

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No.

Closer is the best album ever recorded. And I can pick another fifty before I get anywhere near those dinosaurs.
I had to google that: Joy Division? I've actually never even heard of the band.
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Closer is the best album ever recorded.
Lol

There are literally thousands of albums from more serious artists that are better than anything Joy Division recorded. every New Order album is better than their bastard child band.
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I had to google that: Joy Division? I've actually never even heard of the band.
I'm familiar with the board tendency to ignorance of anything musical post-1976, but I've seldom seen it this bad.
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I have no idea what that is even supposed to mean?
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I had to google that: Joy Division? I've actually never even heard of the band.
Seriously? Joy Division aren't exactly obscure - they were one of the most influential bands from the 1980s onwards. How old are you? I'm an early GenXer and knew of (but didn't properly appreciate) Joy Division within a few years of their demise and transformation into New Order.

For what it's worth I love Quadrophenia - I think it's the best Who album, and is in my top 10 ever - along with Blonde on Blonde, Let It Be (Replacements not Beatles), 69 Love Songs, Rubber Soul, Kind of Blue, and After the Gold Rush, and a few others that change whenever I think of them.
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