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Old 02-11-2020, 01:35 PM
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They taste the same as most apples and they are higher cost. Is this just a fad?
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Old 02-11-2020, 01:46 PM
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They taste the same as most apples and they are higher cost. Is this just a fad?
The best apple I ever had was a Honeycrisp.

OTOH, a couple of the worst ones were Honeycrisps too, which is why I haven't bought any in years.

Give me Fuji and Pink Lady* apples, which are much more consistent in their good qualities - firmness, juiciness, and sweetness.



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Old 02-11-2020, 01:54 PM
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Good ones taste better. Either your taste buds don't agree or you haven't gotten good ones.
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Old 02-11-2020, 02:09 PM
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HoneyCrisp also stay fresh for a long time. They aren't the best apple out there but they are very consistently good and useful for many things. Their crispness and decreased browning make them the best dried apple rings we've ever made, for instance. They also work great for school lunches as they are still white and crunchy at noon after 5 hours post cutting. But they aren't tart enough for pies and not mushy enough for applesauce.

My #1 is a prairie spy- but they are only in season for 1-2 weeks and do not seem to be cold-storable for more than a week or two. But absolutely supreme apple.

I have two apple booths at my farmer's market- they let me know what is best that week. But come December - March, HoneyCrisps are the way to go.
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Old 02-11-2020, 02:16 PM
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Honeycrisps are generally pretty dependable, but they're not my favorite, either, and -- to my tastes -- they're a bit overhyped. My favorite reasonably commonly available apples are braeburns and jazz.
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Old 02-11-2020, 02:17 PM
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HoneyCrisps are good. However, the best apple ever is the King David. Eaten fresh, they taste like an apple Jolly Rancher and in pies, they're unbeatable. Winesaps run second to them IMHO.

Cortland apples are also good for fruit salads since they have snowy flesh that doesn't brown. For best flavor they should be picked when half red, half green but too many orchards pick them too late. Then they're kind of mushy.
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Old 02-11-2020, 03:03 PM
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Overhyped, definitely. I do live in one of the great apple-growing areas of the world so I just buy local varieties, there are dozens that never get out of New England. I prefer my apples sour and very crisp, even hard, but there's an apple for everyone here.

Honeycrisps are more expensive because they are a lot harder to grow than many other varieties. Even the local growers charge one price for all their other apples and another just for Honeycrisps. Which to me are pretty boring but tolerable because they are at least crisp.
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Old 02-11-2020, 03:17 PM
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A good honey crisp is a truly wonderful apple.

However, they do appear inconsistent (moreso in the last two years imho). I threw away half of a honey crisp the other day because it was so tasteless. I agree that Pink Ladies are much more consistent.
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Old 02-11-2020, 03:21 PM
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I'm not into apples in general but my wife and kids swear by these things. We used to go to an orchard every fall where you pick your own and fill up a big bag for 10 bucks or so. You always had to ask/find out if they had Honeycrisp that weekend or it wasn't worth going.
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Old 02-11-2020, 04:37 PM
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I love Honeycrisp apples. But only if they've been recently picked. I still buy them off-season, but the flavor isn't nearly as good.

I recently tried a Cosmic Crisp apple. It was just as good as a Honeycrisp, IMO. But harder to find.
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Old 02-11-2020, 04:41 PM
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They taste much better than many other types of apples. They are more expensive because people growing it have to pay a license to the creators of the strain.

Red Delicious apples used to taste good but all the flavor has been bred out of them in favor of apples that looks nice on a shelf because those sell better. Capitalism.
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I love Honeycrisp apples as well. They seem to be consistently good, rarely do I get a dud. But I like other varieties as well, especially something like a freshly picked Macoun. I'm exploring the varieties that are similar to Honeycrisp when my local shop doesn't have them, no consistent winners yet.

But we're in a Golden Era of apple varieties compared to my youth, when you had Red Delicious, Golden Delicious, Macintosh, Cortland, Empire, and Granny Smith as your only choices.
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Old 02-11-2020, 04:56 PM
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Do try the new Cosmic Crisps if you get a chance. They're juicy and crunchy like Honeycrisps, but have a slightly tarter, more apple-y taste.
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Another vote for Pink Lady, my apple of choice since forever (1970's?).
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Old 02-11-2020, 06:19 PM
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I prefer Braeburns. Honeycrisps have an unnatural crispness, like they have been treated with a non-nutritive crunch enhancer.
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Old 02-11-2020, 07:30 PM
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I prefer Braeburns. Honeycrisps have an unnatural crispness, like they have been treated with a non-nutritive crunch enhancer.
Braeburns are way better than honeycrisps.
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I prefer Opals, but Honeycrisps are very good. I prefer sweet to tart apples, so most of the tart-ish apples that people like aren't my style.

I do find Cosmic Crisp apples overrated. Not bad, but not worth the not-on-sale price.
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Honeycrisp were first developed about 20 years ago, so they are definitely a New Thing.

My favorite remains the Stayman Winesap. Tart, crisp, late season, and thick skinned. Sweet apples are for pussies.
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I was at our local grocery store a few years back. Looking around in the produce section and an employee with a handlebar mustache sidles up to me. "Hey, man. Wanna try an apple?" I look around furtively and whisper back "Yeah, man. What you got?" "Envy. It's new." *hands me a slice* "Nice."

Apparently it's a Braeburn/Royal Gala hybrid from New Zealand. I've been buying nothing else since.
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I was at our local grocery store a few years back. Looking around in the produce section and an employee with a handlebar mustache sidles up to me. "Hey, man. Wanna try an apple?" I look around furtively and whisper back "Yeah, man. What you got?" "Envy. It's new." *hands me a slice* "Nice."

Apparently it's a Braeburn/Royal Gala hybrid from New Zealand. I've been buying nothing else since.
I've had those, too. Those are nice.
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Old 02-11-2020, 11:52 PM
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I love Honey Crisps and am willing to pay extra for them. They're expensive because they're seasonal, and while I don't know how well they keep in long-term storage, I've had them find their way to the back of my fridge for a few weeks, and while the skin was a bit shriveled, the flesh was as crisp and juicy as ever.
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Old 02-12-2020, 08:05 AM
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Our friends/neighbors have a commercial apple orchard. We make a lot of applesauce and it's cool combining different varieties and coming up with a slightly different tasting product. My favorite apple variety is constantly changing.


ETA: they make delicious cider that we go through by the gallon. This year I told my gf the cider was especially good. She thought I was being an apple snob, but when we asked about it, the farmers agreed.

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Old 02-12-2020, 08:15 AM
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Russets! Russets are the best.

Honeycrisps can be nice but I won't seek them out deliberately.
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Old 02-12-2020, 08:21 AM
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Honeycrisps have good press and they appeal to people whose main flavor preference is sweet-sweet-sweet.
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Remember back when all you could get were Red Delicious and Granny Smiths? And those yellow ones? Yeah. (Shudder)
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Pssst, that's a potato you're munching.
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HCs weren't "hype" for me. I bought one with out having any idea they were so popular (hell, they may have not been at the time some 15 years ago) I just new that I freaking loved them from the first bite.
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Pssst, that's a potato you're munching.
Yukon Golds are the way to go if that is the sort of thing you like munching.

The Golden Delicious apples that grow on the tree in my yard are the best apple. Next best is whatever I go pick at the orchards around here, then finally you get to he Honeycrisp and Cosmic Crisp from the store.
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I've noticed a few people mention they're expensive. How expensive are they where you're at? They are pricier than other apples, but they're still not that expensive -- at least not at my grocer. I checked today and they were $1.39/lb for Michigan Honeycrisps. That is a premium over the $0.99/lb Galas, Braeburns, Pink Ladies, etc., at the same grocer, but that's still not what I would call expensive.
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Old 02-12-2020, 10:21 AM
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Aldi had them at $1.99 per pound here in NC.
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They taste the same as most apples and they are higher cost. Is this just a fad?
For several reasons, honey crisp apples have revolutionized the apple industry. Itís the first apple that is reliably of good texture and good taste while also being hardy and transportable.

Before, red delicious, golden delicious, and Granny Smith apples were the Most common but they represented a compromise.

Honeycrisp is also the first name that functions as a brand name (trademark) rather than just as a descriptor.

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I give Honeycrisps just an OK. I think they're overrated. I like the Pink Lady way better. I like to try the new varieties that seem to pop up every month or so. Cameo, Envy, Jazz and Kiku have all been good. But then after having good luck with a certain variety, they're not so good. I'm sure it's a seasonal thing. A new one (around here anyway) that I really liked was Sugar Bee.
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Okay, so I'm an apple snob. My favorite apples are:
Ashmead's Kernal -- a small, russeted apple. It's yellow with a red blush under the russet, but mostly you just see the russet. It's incredibly sweet, fabulously tart, and has a decent apple flavor. It is also very crunchy.
Macoun -- they are hard to grow, and apparently are only good in New England. They also don't keep very well. But a good Macoun tastes like a good Macintosh only it's sweeter and the flesh "snaps". It's softer than the other crunchy apples, but it still has this distinctive snap in your mouth that's just really satisfying.
Crimson Crisp -- No, not the much more hyped cosmic crisp, although that's a decent apple. This one has better flavor, and has the nice feature of staying firm when yhou cook it. So not for applesauce, but terrific for pie. Not the richest of flavors, but quite nice.
Jonathan -- I like this well enough for eating out of hand, but a fresh Jonathan really shines in pie, where it develops a rich complex apple flavor and holds its shape. As it gets older it loses the firmness, but still tastes pretty good.

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Do try the new Cosmic Crisps if you get a chance. They're juicy and crunchy like Honeycrisps, but have a slightly tarter, more apple-y taste.
Yeah, I had some for the first time this year, that's a nice apple.

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I prefer Opals, but Honeycrisps are very good. I prefer sweet to tart apples, so most of the tart-ish apples that people like aren't my style.

I do find Cosmic Crisp apples overrated. Not bad, but not worth the not-on-sale price.
Honeycrisp s a fine apple. Crisp and sweet. It isn't one of my favorites because I find it bland. Neither tart enough for my preferences nor an especially noticeable apple flavor.

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Honeycrisp were first developed about 20 years ago, so they are definitely a New Thing.

My favorite remains the Stayman Winesap. Tart, crisp, late season, and thick skinned. Sweet apples are for pussies.
I like Stayman winesaps. I liked them more when I lived in NJ -- a lot of apples are regional, and grow better some places than others. I think our season isn't hot enough for them, and they don't develop their full potential.
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They taste the same as most apples and they are higher cost. Is this just a fad?
I only like granny smith's so I hear ya.
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Remember back when all you could get were Red Delicious and Granny Smiths? And those yellow ones? Yeah. (Shudder)
Itís nice that we can now buy better apples....but I want to see the same thing happen with potatoes. Currently the common choices are russet (Idaho), round white or red boilers, and, if youíre lucky, Yukon Gold. (These seem to have supplanted the ghastly California long white, which were good for absolutely nothing.)

In Maine, where they Respect the Spud, you can find a dozen varieties at a good farm market. I want to be able to cook a tater here in NYC that is comparable to an Irish side dish. In Ireland they serve you a boiled potato the way the Chinese serve rice: an expected addition to the meal, and sometimes the best part. I donít know how the micks are so good at cooking potatoes, but Iím on the case.
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Itís nice that we can now buy better apples....but I want to see the same thing happen with potatoes. Currently the common choices are russet (Idaho), round white or red boilers, and, if youíre lucky, Yukon Gold. (These seem to have supplanted the ghastly California long white, which were good for absolutely nothing.)
In NYC? Color me surprised. Here in Dallas, we can reliably get the big four potato varieties - russet, gold, white and red. Usually in a small variety of sizes. We can also usually get heirloom purple potatoes and funky little bite-sized ones in variety bags.

Apples are similar- we can always get red delicious, granny smith, golden delicious, Gala, Fuji and Honeycrisp. Pink Lady, Braeburn and McIntosh apples are not entirely uncommon either. Sometimes we get interesting varieties like Jazz, Opal or Pinata, but that's sporadic.
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...while also being hardy and transportable.
I find them to be extremely prone to being bruised.
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But we're in a Golden Era of apple varieties compared to my youth, when you had Red Delicious, Golden Delicious, Macintosh, Cortland, Empire, and Granny Smith as your only choices.
Down here, it was usually only Red Delicious, Golden Delicious, and Granny Smiths. Might have had other ones seasonally.
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Apples are similar- we can always get red delicious, granny smith, golden delicious, Gala, Fuji and Honeycrisp. Pink Lady, Braeburn and McIntosh apples are not entirely uncommon either. Sometimes we get interesting varieties like Jazz, Opal or Pinata, but that's sporadic.
Around here, Gala, Fuji, Honeycrisps and Braeburns are kind of treated interchangeably -- it's like the "fourth apple" next to Red Delicious, Golden Delicious, and Granny Smiths. Maybe half the time, we'll have a fourth AND a fifth apple option -- this differs seasonally, I think.

I've seen Pink Lady and Jazz apples around, but sporadically. Never have seen Opals, Pinatas, or McIntosh locally. The McIntosh is a pretty famous variety (not just because of the computers) ... do they not travel/keep well? Any special reason we never get them in the New Orleans area?
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Around here, Gala, Fuji, Honeycrisps and Braeburns are kind of treated interchangeably -- it's like the "fourth apple" next to Red Delicious, Golden Delicious, and Granny Smiths. Maybe half the time, we'll have a fourth AND a fifth apple option -- this differs seasonally, I think.

I've seen Pink Lady and Jazz apples around, but sporadically. Never have seen Opals, Pinatas, or McIntosh locally. The McIntosh is a pretty famous variety (not just because of the computers) ... do they not travel/keep well? Any special reason we never get them in the New Orleans area?
They don't keep well, they are a little soft to travel well, and they need cold weather to grow well. So... you probably can't get good ones in New Orleans.
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Around here, Gala, Fuji, Honeycrisps and Braeburns are kind of treated interchangeably -- it's like the "fourth apple" next to Red Delicious, Golden Delicious, and Granny Smiths. Maybe half the time, we'll have a fourth AND a fifth apple option -- this differs seasonally, I think.

I've seen Pink Lady and Jazz apples around, but sporadically. Never have seen Opals, Pinatas, or McIntosh locally. The McIntosh is a pretty famous variety (not just because of the computers) ... do they not travel/keep well? Any special reason we never get them in the New Orleans area?
Opals are starting to be more common; I'm a fan, because they were bred to not turn brown quickly, and they taste pretty good as well. And they're a cool bright yellow color.

According to Wikipedia, imported apples supplanted the McIntosh as a general purpose apple variety.
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I do find Cosmic Crisp apples overrated. Not bad, but not worth the not-on-sale price.
This is true, but only because Cosmic Crisps are BRAND new. They're supposed to last longer and travel better than Honeycrisps, so they should eventually be more price-competitive.

There were a few years where I felt like grocery store Honeycrisps weren't very good and didn't hold a candle to orchard-picked apples. More recently, I've gotten a few bags from stores that were absolutely solid. I don't know if my luck improved or frowing conditions improved or low quality producers have gotten removed from the system.
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They taste much better than many other types of apples. They are more expensive because people growing it have to pay a license to the creators of the strain.

Red Delicious apples used to taste good but all the flavor has been bred out of them in favor of apples that looks nice on a shelf because those sell better. Capitalism.
If you don't like Capitalism, why don't you visit Socialist Cuba or North Korea and see what the quality of apples that are available there is IF there are any available at all. Capitalism means that there are 5 or 6 other varieties available to choose from if for some reason you don't like Red Delicious.
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Honeycrisps are pretty good - crisp is probably my #1 requirement for an apple, and the flavor is sweet with an undertone of tartness.

After years of the mushy reign of Red Delicious, it's nice to see alternatives becoming widely available. We have a large u-pick orchard and fruit mart located not far away with opportunities for further taste testing.
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If you don't like Capitalism, why don't you visit Socialist Cuba or North Korea and see what the quality of apples that are available there is IF there are any available at all. Capitalism means that there are 5 or 6 other varieties available to choose from if for some reason you don't like Red Delicious.
Nobody really likes Red Delicious apples because they're the biggest sham ever foisted on the apple eating public. Anyway, if you are reading this and you have never gone to an apple orchard during apple season, you need to put it on your bucket list. The difference between fresh orchard apples and supermarket ones is quite remarkable both in quality and variety. (even Red Delicious are good from an orchard, but their flavor disappears after a week off of the tree)

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If you don't like Capitalism, why don't you visit Socialist Cuba or North Korea and see what the quality of apples that are available there is IF there are any available at all. Capitalism means that there are 5 or 6 other varieties available to choose from if for some reason you don't like Red Delicious.
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Contrary to many descriptions, I find that they're not the best-keeping apple, tending to get a little mealy and/or soft around this time of year. But if you find fresh-picked ones in October or November, buy a bushel and eat them all.
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The great thing - to my mind - about honeycrisps is that the skin doesn't taste chalky when you bake them. So I can make an apple pie in no time at all, just slice 'em up and toss 'em in a crust. My favorite for eating is Pink Lady. If I am cooking pork with apples, then I want Jazz, which have a warmer, more cidery flavor. And if I want to slice up an apple to eat with cheddar or peanut butter, then I want a winesap or a cortland. On rare occasions I get a craving for Granny Smith with Gouda, but I go years in between.
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