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Trump not unveiling Obama portrait


Not a big deal but yet another example of how he doesn't give a f**k about normal traditions.

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Seems to me that this has more to do with his hatred Obama's legacy.
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Mitch McConnell will be by any moment to condemn this "classless" display.
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He just can't stop confirming my opinion of him.

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Well, it really is a big deal. It's a major insult to Obama that would likely be front page news in sane times. It's just that in today's world, this is one more outrage in an endless stream of outrages. It's hard to get upset at Trump dissing a better man when he does so many other things that are worse.
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Maybe it's better this way. Do we really need another confused, rambling speech about troops with no ammunition, depleted pandemic supplies, Hillary's E-mails, illegal voting, attempted Deep State coups and the Best-Attended Inaugural of All Time?

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Surprised he hasn't ordered a painting of Obama picking cotton with on the "Trump Alley Plantation (Hotel and Casino) in Louisiana.
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His whining, if his successor pulls the same thing on him, will be easily heard around the world, even if every media outlet in the world does the sane thing and ignores him 5 minutes after he's out of office.
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Time to bring back the "can you imagine the reaction if Obama did that" question. Trump is a piece of shit.
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Not a big deal but yet another example of how he doesn't give a f**k about normal traditions.

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Did you read the second paragraph?

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Obama would also not be interested in attending such an event, according to the report, which cited people familiar with the matter.
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It really does look like both camps decided that it would be best to skip the whole thing.
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"Obama would also not be interested in attending such an event, according to the report, which cited people familiar with the matter." ...because Trump is an unprecedented piece of shit. This situation has arisen with no other so-called President than Trump, because Trump is a piece of shit.
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Did you read the second paragraph?
Really? Are we going to have a conversation about who started it?
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McCain banned Trump from his funeral with good reason. When was the last time a sitting president was banned from a funeral of a well known senator?
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Not a big deal but yet another example of how he doesn't give a f**k about normal traditions.

https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...e-house-2020-5
As if we needed more examples of what a small man he is.
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Hardly surprising, considering how badly Chump has been trashing Obama. It would be pretty awkward if Obama did attend. Not awkward for Chump, who has no sense of shame whatsoever, but awkward for everyone else. I agree with Elendil's Heir in another thread, Obama can soon go see it as the guest of President Biden.
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I don't know. If I were Trump's successor I certainly wouldn't want to unveil his portrait and this would give me coverage to avoid it. Maybe just as well. (Ducks.)
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I don't know. If I were Trump's successor I certainly wouldn't want to unveil his portrait and this would give me coverage to avoid it. Maybe just as well. (Ducks.)
Trumps potrait will be unveiled in the Arkham Asylum.
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Back when we had an actual President, who wasn't a piece of shit, President Obama unveiled GWB's portrait. Here's a snippet of the dignity and respect this country used to have.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGuxcsRP_uI
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Did you read the second paragraph?
So why do YOU think Obama would not be interested in such an event? George W. Bush was interested in such an event when Obama was president. Clinton was interested in such an event when W. was president. HW was interested in such an event with Clinton was president.

What do YOU think would make Obama not be interested in having his portrait unveiled at the White House, like every other president in recent history has had done?
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If I were Trump's successor I certainly wouldn't want to unveil his portrait and this would give me coverage to avoid it. . . ..
If Trump gets the successor he wants -- maybe Trump Jr. -- it won't be a problem.

But if his successor is a small-d democrat (probably also means a big D Democrat), all sorts of honors that normally go to a former President won't go to DJT.

Ideally, it won't be a one-off, but a chance to rethink the dangers of an imperial presidency.

So -- Obama's presidential library should be the last.

The Former Presidents Act should be scaled back to secret-service protection only.

And no more having an on-premises, drug-dispensing-on-request, Physician to the President. Abolish the position, or at least make it an honor, for a senior doc, and thus closer to the Physician to the Queen. People talk about how the President is treated like an king, but doing so would be an improvement.

Limit the President to the normal vacation time allocated to federal employees when going to a golf course or rally. Have a White House inspector general, that the President can't fire, keep his or her leave.

I'm sure there are modest, popular, ideas I haven't thought of that would lower the presidential profile. If they applied to Biden, it would be hard for many Republicans to vote against them.

Ideally, Trump will flee to one of his UAE golf clubs, from which it will hard for him to oppose such a never-Trump-again agenda. A guy can dream, right
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It really does look like both camps decided that it would be best to skip the whole thing.
Well, you know, both sides have agreed that it's probably a bad idea, har har har. No need to wonder why, peoples! Both sides, OK? Both sides.
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Really? Are we going to have a conversation about who started it?
I didn't say anything about "who started it".
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Trump did.
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I didn't say anything about "who started it".
Well, maybe they should have led the story off with the fact that Obama doesn't have any interest in attending his portrait unveiling by Trump at the White House.

Would that have been better?
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Trump did.
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Who is the first so called president to refuse this tradition? Cite, my fucking ass.

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Obama also refused to attend.
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I understand that you don't want to answer the question.And I will no longer respond to your posts. Just trying to be polite about it.

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Cite please.
Dude, seriously.

This borders on trolling. I know the concept of 'cite?' is venerated here. But that presupposes a complete lack of obliviousness.

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Obama also refused to attend.
How can he refuse to do something that's not happening?
How can he refuse to attend when there's been no invitation?
How can he refuse to attend when he has no right to without an invitation?

So far, I've only found one story that stated that Obama reportedly "has no interest" in having his portrait unveiled.

Yet to find even an actual quote.
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So far, I've only found one story that stated that Obama reportedly "has no interest" in having his portrait unveiled.
It was in the OP's own link. It was also linked in post #11. But I'm somehow oblivious.

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Did you read the second paragraph?
Yeah, I read it and am not surprised considering how shitty Trump has been toward Obama since he was inaugurated.

If DJT had an ounce of class he would invite Obama and then when Obama declined he would still go ahead and have a ceremony just like any previous President would do. Instead he yet again shows himself to be a petty, childish, narcissistic asshole.
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Obama also refused to attend.
This is incorrect. DJT refused to hold the traditional ceremony to unveil the portrait. It then appears when asked an Obama spokesperson indicated he wouldn't be interested in attending if there were a ceremony.

As I pointed out in my previous post - if Trump had an ounce of class in his childish, vindictive, narcissistic soul he would have a ceremony, extend the invitation and then if Obama declined, DJT would end up looking like the bigger man. Instead, he petulantly says he's not gonna have a ceremony for Obama and shows the world what a small, insecure and petty little man he is.

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It was in the OP's own link. It was also linked in post #11. But I'm somehow oblivious.
Also said he's not interested. You stated he refused to attend.

Link the source that clearly uses the word refused.
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As I pointed out in my previous post - if Trump had an ounce of class in his childish, vindictive, narcissistic soul he would have a ceremony, extend the invitation and then if Obama declined, DJT would end up looking like the bigger man.
A politician should accept criticism coming with the game. But there gets to a point where the insults have been both too extreme (birtherism, which last I heard Trump blames on Hillary Clinton) and too recent (blaming Obama for COVID-19, "OBAMAGATE!", and deliberately ambiguous mention of 50 years in prison) to be turned aside.

I am for going high when they go low. I'm not for visiting the emperor in his palace, while reporters wait to see how long Trump holds back insults. If Donald ever offers Barack the opportunity, and there's no indication of a Trump personality change, President Obama should decline. Some might not think it bigger, but it would be wiser.
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Attend what?
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This makes me wonder whether Biden, if he were elected, would invite Trump for an unveiling ceremony.

And speaking of which, just what would Trump's portrait look like? Would it depict him sitting on a throne or wearing an ermine robe?

Or would he go for something like this:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...icture-twitter

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This makes me wonder whether Biden, if he were elected, would invite Trump for an unveiling ceremony.
If there is any justice left in this world, Trump will have to ask for permission to attend from the correctional facility authorities.
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It's a tradition that hopefully will return in the future, though I see no reason for Biden to do it for Dolt45 when it is his turn. Any portrait of him should be hung in the White House gardener's manure shed.
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Cite please.
Trump birther tweets, in order:

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He could attend via Zoom.
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This doesn't surprise me, President Trump acts like a spiteful and spoiled six year old who truly believes everyone who disagrees with him is mean. It is unfortunate.

As for "What would Joe do" or even better, "What would Barak do", it's discouraging that the correct answer isn't obvious: They'd be grownups about it, respectful of the office and of the nation's electoral voice even when they disagree with it, and they'd execute the ceremony with sincere gratitude for the opportunity to participate in a moment of the nation's history.
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As for "What would Joe do" or even better, "What would Barak do", it's discouraging that the correct answer isn't obvious: They'd be grownups about it, respectful of the office and of the nation's electoral voice even when they disagree with it, and they'd execute the ceremony with sincere gratitude for the opportunity to participate in a moment of the nation's history.
This.

I have great respect for the office of the President of the United States. There are a lot of Trumpanistas that think he is mistreated and that the office should be respected. However, this whole episode shows that HE DOESN'T EVEN RESPECT THE OFFICE HIMSELF. I would hope that the next president would again return respect to the office. I do not like the man, but he was legally elected and has held the office. He will get a portrait, and it will be revealed with respect. After that, I hope some kid draws a mustache on it with a sharpie.
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He will get a portrait, and it will be revealed with respect. After that, I hope some kid draws a mustache on it with a sharpie.
These two contradictory sentences nicely present the problem.

You can argue that there were presidents who damaged my country more than Trump has so far. A good case could be made for either James Buchanan or Andrew Johnson being a more harmful one-termer. But no other President can match Trump in how often he talked like a dictator. (To test this, go to Wikiquote.com)

If Joe Biden wins, his administration is going to be under pressure to have Trump arrested. As much as it would be deserved, I think it would be a polarizing mistake. But that doesn't mean Biden needs to honor a prime conspiracy theorist who incites crowds against present reporters, jokes about being president for life, cruelly insults women's looks, and is on track to becoming a real tyrant if given another four years.

Should a future President should go to the funeral, showing no rancor? Yes. Trump should be given that much honor. But none before.
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