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Trump says the US leading the world in coronavirus cases is 'a badge of honor'


You just can't make this shit up:

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"When we have a lot of cases, I don't look at that as a bad thing, I look at that as, in a certain respect, as being a good thing," Trump told reporters. "Because it means our testing is much better."

He added, "I view it as a badge of honor, really, it's a badge of honor."

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Maybe that’s all he ever wanted. We might have avoided the turmoil of the last four years if Obama had just handled Trump the same way Nixon handled Elvis.
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Leading the world in coronavirus deaths is a badge of honor like drinking the Kool-Aid at Jonestown was a badge of honor.
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OK, I'm actually going to try to (somewhat) defend Trump on this one. I think his intended point is, some nations are able to put up low official numbers simply because they haven't done enough testing to catch the true toll. Whereas the more you actually test, the more your honest true case numbers will spike, ugly as they appear. So, "The fact that we have such a high toll means that we're honest enough to test and publish the figures, rather than refuse to test and thus produce artificially skewed low stats."

That being said, he and his administration utterly, utterly screwed up the pandemic response from Day One, so he has to point the finger at himself for the American virus crisis being so bad to begin with.
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When you're a fucking sociopath like Trump, "honor" doesn't mean what it means to sane people.
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OK, I'm actually going to try to (somewhat) defend Trump on this one. I think his intended point is, some nations are able to put up low official numbers simply because they haven't done enough testing to catch the true toll. Whereas the more you actually test, the more your honest true case numbers will spike, ugly as they appear. So, "The fact that we have such a high toll means that we're honest enough to test and publish the figures, rather than refuse to test and thus produce artificially skewed low stats."

That being said, he and his administration utterly, utterly screwed up the pandemic response from Day One, so he has to point the finger at himself for the American virus crisis being so bad to begin with.
One day my brother hung out with a friend and I and pushed a shopping cart into a pond. We made him get it out and bring it back to the store. He kept telling old people that he did a good deed, fishing it out of the pond. He wouldn't listen when we said it wasn't a good deed when he caused the problem himself.

He was 13, though. Not 73.

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When you're a fucking sociopath like Trump, "honor" doesn't mean what it means to sane people.
BINGO!

We have the bigliest numbers, so that means we're the best - doesn't it?
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OK, I'm actually going to try to (somewhat) defend Trump on this one. I think his intended point is, some nations are able to put up low official numbers simply because they haven't done enough testing to catch the true toll. Whereas the more you actually test, the more your honest true case numbers will spike, ugly as they appear. So, "The fact that we have such a high toll means that we're honest enough to test and publish the figures, rather than refuse to test and thus produce artificially skewed low stats."
Except that, in a surprising twist, Trump is lying. The United States is not leading the world in testing. We're not even in the top ten.

Which is an improvement. We used to not even be in the top fifty. Because Trump screwed up test procurement just like he screwed up everything else.

Here's the figures for the number of tests performed per million people (cite):

Spain 64,977
Portugal 64,938
Belgium 61,277
Qatar 57,801
Russia 50,383
Italy 50,294
Switzerland 40,487
Belarus 39,692
United Kingdom 39,542
Germany 37,584
United States 37,188

Here's the figures for the number of tests performed compared to the number of confirmed cases found (cite):

New Zealand 203.5
Taiwan 158.3
Australia 153.8
South Korea 69.1
Czech Republic 42.9
Estonia 40.3
Tunisia 40.2
Iceland 31.7
South Africa 30.6
India 23.9
Germany 18.6
Serbia 17.8
Canada 17.1
Philippines 15.8
Japan 15.6
Italy 13.7
Argentina 13.6
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Indonesia 8.2
United States 8.0
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Are we talking about the same Trump here who just recently said that the way to keep our numbers down is by NOT testing so much? Or was that the other Trump who said that?
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Are we talking about the same Trump here who just recently said that the way to keep our numbers down is by NOT testing so much? Or was that the other Trump who said that?
Isn't that consistent with what he said here? I mean, it's bullshit, but it seems like in this respect the two statements are internally consistent. More testing makes us look bad, less testing would makes us look good.
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Are we talking about the same Trump here who just recently said that the way to keep our numbers down is by NOT testing so much? Or was that the other Trump who said that?

Maybe the Navy doctors who declared he's in great health. Dollars to donuts they didn't actually administer any tests because he would not coöperate with testing.
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Is it also a "badge of honor" that we have the greatest number of gun deaths in the world?
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Except that, in a surprising twist, Trump is lying. The United States is not leading the world in testing. We're not even in the top ten.
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Holy shit, he lied about this?? Maybe we should have a thread about this in P&E like the one about Biden's grades!
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Remember when Trump argued against testing because it would make our numbers look bad? He used a similar argument against letting the Diamond Princess cruise ship dock in the U.S.: we'd have to count the cases against U.S. stats, which would make the country look worse.

In other words, the pandemic is just an accounting problem. What's important is not how many people get sick and die, but who gets charged for it. This is similar to his approach to business, in which it doesn't matter who pays his debts as long as it's not him.
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Back in the day, when I had friends in* the mental health industry, some of this buffoonery would lead to serious chats about "72-hour holds." Now we put the guy in the White House instead.
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Back in the day, when I had friends in* the mental health industry, some of this buffoonery would lead to serious chats about "72-hour holds." Now we put the guy in the White House instead.
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Sometimes he responds to criticism with a rote cluelessness that is absolutely mind-boggling.

I keep coming up with analogies from my own life for some of these, like the stuff with the testing.

I used to be a sales rep for a product used in high-end residential construction. I had an exclusive contract for the NY metro area.

I can imagine having a really bad month and having my manager call me and say “Ann, what in the hell are you doing, staying home and watching TV all day? The guy that reps Montana had higher numbers than you last month. Do you want to keep your job?“

Which was a reaming I deserved if I had a bad month . But do you know what I wouldn’t do?

Next month, if my numbers pulled up, I would NOT call my manager and say “Guess what! I outsold the guy in Montana last month! Give me praise and love!

Because that would show I totally missed the fucking point, the point being I should be able to outsell the guy in Montana by a factor of ten every single time while asleep with both hands tied behind my back.

Because he’s in Montana and I’m in New York City. It doesn’t even go to talent or skill. I was expected to beat South Dakota and Oklahoma, too.

Doing less testing than South Korea was a pathetic underachievement. But when you’re the USA and start bragging about doing more testing than South Korea, or any other country, really - that just shows you don’t get it.
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He was being sarcastic.
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I guess it could be a badge of honor, sort of like the purple heart you get from accidentally shooting yourself in the arse.
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Is it also a "badge of honor" that we have the greatest number of gun deaths in the world?
If you call them second amendment solutions, it sounds a lot better.
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Maybe you just do more gun testing.
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It was a pun
No, not a pun, a … a … palindrome!

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rabble rabble rabble in the OP.
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Faroe Islands: 0 active cases for a couple of weeks.
8986 tests, population about 55000
Is that about 18% of the population?
About 160000 tests pr. Million I believe.
Math and statistics isn’t my strong suit, but I believe that is correct.

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Except that, in a surprising twist, Trump is lying. The United States is not leading the world in testing. We're not even in the top ten.

Which is an improvement. We used to not even be in the top fifty. Because Trump screwed up test procurement just like he screwed up everything else.

Here's the figures for the number of tests performed per million people (cite):

Spain 64,977
Portugal 64,938
Belgium 61,277
Qatar 57,801
Russia 50,383
Italy 50,294
Switzerland 40,487
Belarus 39,692
United Kingdom 39,542
Germany 37,584
United States 37,188

Here's the figures for the number of tests performed compared to the number of confirmed cases found (cite):

New Zealand 203.5
Taiwan 158.3
Australia 153.8
South Korea 69.1
Czech Republic 42.9
Estonia 40.3
Tunisia 40.2
Iceland 31.7
South Africa 30.6
India 23.9
Germany 18.6
Serbia 17.8
Canada 17.1
Philippines 15.8
Japan 15.6
Italy 13.7
Argentina 13.6
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When you're a fucking sociopath like Trump, "honor" doesn't mean what it means to sane people.
Everything is about Trump's ego. If his incompetence causes the entire country to catch on fire, he will be bragging about what a great job his administration did on sending the fire department to try to put out the flames (even though the fire department is done on a local level).

I hope to god we learn something from this whole debacle. 63 million people thought this deranged fuck up was qualified to be president.
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And it would be a tin that was actually full of shit, so you can spread that shit sheen around?
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Market it to Sharper Image. They bought all his other bullshit.
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We get to have death AND dishonor. It's a two-fer!
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Well, that clears it up!

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And, you know, when you say "per capita," there's many per capitas. It's, like, per capita relative to what? But you can look at just about any category, and we're really at the top, meaning positive on a per capita basis, too. They've done a great job.
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"Per capita"? What kind of furrin nonsense is that? We speak 'Murican in this country!
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Kudrow said "they’re looking for a 21 and a half percent growth rate, sir, in the third quarter"

Is that even possible?
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Kudrow said "they’re looking for a 21 and a half percent growth rate, sir, in the third quarter"

Is that even possible?
Well, the market dropped that much (I believe), so why couldn't it come back up?

I mean, I'm looking for lamp with genie in it, I just don't expect to find it.
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I hope to god we learn something from this whole debacle. 63 million people thought this deranged fuck up was qualified to be president.
It's worse than that...

Most of those 63 million people will vote for him again.

Occasionally you see articles on how to best convince the other side (in politics) of something (going either way). But when you have president Trump doing what he has done these past few years and people are lining up to pull the lever for him again there is no convincing them.

These people are lost. Completely deranged.
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Kudrow said "they’re looking for a 21 and a half percent growth rate, sir, in the third quarter"

Is that even possible?
I’m pretty sure we already accomplished that — in the third quarter of the twentieth century (1950-1975)...
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And it would be a tin that was actually full of shit, so you can spread that shit sheen around?
Hey, I'm just the idea guy. You're implementation, so however you see fit.
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It's worse than that...

Most of those 63 million people will vote for him again.

Occasionally you see articles on how to best convince the other side (in politics) of something (going either way). But when you have president Trump doing what he has done these past few years and people are lining up to pull the lever for him again there is no convincing them.

These people are lost. Completely deranged.
It's admittedly been a while since I've looked at the predictions and punditry with regard to turnout, but I seem to recall that the people who intend to vote against Trump are expected to significantly outnumber the people who intend to vote for him.

This is what drives the concern that Republicans will attempt to disrupt voting and tinker with the results in unprecedented ways.
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I seem to recall that the people who intend to vote against Trump are expected to significantly outnumber the people who intend to vote for him.

Yeah. Last time they were outnumbered, too, but still carried the damn election thanks to that nonsensical system we have.

The problem isn't that people who vote for the other candidate outnumber those who vote for him, it's that those who vote for him are strategically placed.
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Yeah. Last time they were outnumbered, too, but still carried the damn election thanks to that nonsensical system we have.

The problem isn't that people who vote for the other candidate outnumber those who vote for him, it's that those who vote for him are strategically placed.
What's so crazy is I don't think he wanted to win, or thought he could win. But Russia got him elected. He wanted to start the anti-Hillary channel because he was pissed off that 'The Apprentice' was cancelled. He would make Fox News look left wing. Not that he gives a shit about politics.

Now he has plenty of attention though. Good or bad, I don't think he gives a shit. Well, that's pretty clear. Anyway, he may understand that with the microscope he's put himself under, the only way to stay out of a courtroom is to get re-elected. Oh, and being President is probably the only thing keeping his personal empire (be what it may) afloat.

It's. Absolutely. Nuts.
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