# 007 will be played by a Black actress

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [July 14, 2019, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/007-will-be-played-by-a-black-actress/837078 "2019-07-14T19:35:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/007-will-be-played-by-a-black-actress/837078/21 "2019-07-14T20:46:48Z")

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> [@Charlie\_Tan](#):
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> Did you notice the ? at the end of that [del]click bait[/del] headline?  
> Or read the article?

He **never** reads more than clickbait headlines. Then he posts as if the sky is falling. Then when nothing happens he slowly backpedals and pretends he never had a problem in the first place.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/007-will-be-played-by-a-black-actress/837078/22 "2019-07-14T20:47:10Z")

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According to the IMDb, Lynch will play someone called Naomi.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/007-will-be-played-by-a-black-actress/837078/23 "2019-07-14T20:47:42Z")

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Uh, we don’t have to spoiler-box wild speculation. My absolutely unspoiled total speculation would be:

She is 007 and either is killed quickly or kidnapped and held. Despite his retirement, there is a reason they need James Bond specifically(like “we need the best”). I know they disavow you if you get killed(right?), but there must be some huge reason they need this 007 back.

Or, she is dead and James Bond MUST finish her mission.

It’s no huge shock for 007 to pass to someone else. Perhaps at the end of this, James Bond will be 007 again and it can move on to another actor in the next movie.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/007-will-be-played-by-a-black-actress/837078/24 "2019-07-14T20:57:30Z")

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So this is a Craig movie with him as Bond. Period.

After this?

Do they reboot again? Have 007 be someone other than Bond and stay in current universe? Could be Lynch or she can be killed off and another person becomes 007 (but not Bond).

Or just retire the franchise after a good long run but as something that has run its course and time?

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/007-will-be-played-by-a-black-actress/837078/25 "2019-07-14T21:01:53Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> This has been reported as a female James Bond.
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> I could care less who plays 007. If that’s just a generic title for a job. Maybe the next one can be a 12 year old, female, Japanese apprentice Sumo Wrestler. 😉 The great grand daughter of Odd Job. That should check all the appropriate boxes.
> 
> Note the heading  
> James Bond to Be Black & Female as Bond 25 Passes 007 to Lashana Lynch?
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> [https://movieweb.com/james-bond-25-first-female-007-lashana-lynch/](https://movieweb.com/james-bond-25-first-female-007-lashana-lynch/)

Why are you always incapable of understanding the most basic of things even after they have been explained to you in simple terms?

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/007-will-be-played-by-a-black-actress/837078/26 "2019-07-14T21:02:24Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> The sensible thing to do is created a character equal to Bond. There are many agents employed as intelligence officers in the Secret Intelligence Service. Why have we only been introduced to one agent?

Uh, I think that’s what they’re doing. James Bond is retired, so another agent is taking his place and #. :rolleyes:

Either way, if it bothers you that much, don’t go see the movie.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/007-will-be-played-by-a-black-actress/837078/27 "2019-07-14T21:13:24Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> Why are you always incapable of understanding the most basic of things even after they have been explained to you in simple terms?

I completely understand the situation. A different person is 007. Something goes wrong and Bond comes out of retirement to finish the assignment.

The press is fixated on the gender change and that’s what I responded too. Headlines matter.

Going forward I have no interest in watching a new character permanently fill the role as 007. YMMV and that’s fine.

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**Author:** ![neofishboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/neofishboy/32/444_2.png) [@neofishboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neofishboy)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/007-will-be-played-by-a-black-actress/837078/28 "2019-07-14T21:14:03Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> It was gonna happen eventually.
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> The PC police would never rest until it they changed the iconic character of James Bond.
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> The sensible thing to do is create a character equal to Bond. There are many agents employed as intelligence officers in the Secret Intelligence Service. Why have we only been introduced to one agent?
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> We of course no longer live in a sane world. I won’t waste my time or money watching a PC Bond.

Are these PC police the same monsters who tried to tell you that complimenting a 12-year-old girl on her tits was bad?

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/007-will-be-played-by-a-black-actress/837078/29 "2019-07-14T21:24:18Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> but I can think of, oh, at least two other actresses I’d pick ahead of her _just in the [MCU](https://nyoobserver.files.wordpress.com/2018/02/black-panther-photo-1.jpg?quality=80)_

Neither are from the UK.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/007-will-be-played-by-a-black-actress/837078/30 "2019-07-14T21:27:30Z")

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> [@Ike\_Witt](#):
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> Neither are from the UK.

They’re not from Wakanda, either, but they did a pretty good job faking it.

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**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/007-will-be-played-by-a-black-actress/837078/31 "2019-07-14T21:32:42Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> I could care less who plays 007. If that’s just a generic title for a job.

> [@aceplace57](#):
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> I completely understand the situation. A different person is 007.

LOL.

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/007-will-be-played-by-a-black-actress/837078/32 "2019-07-14T21:33:01Z")

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> [@Ike\_Witt](#):
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> Neither are from the UK.

Pierce Brosnan, George Lazenby. Your point?

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/007-will-be-played-by-a-black-actress/837078/33 "2019-07-14T21:41:30Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> Headlines matter.

Sure. But by your reasoning, if I started a thread entitled “aceplace57 is an aardvark”, rather than trying to understand the true state of affairs and focusing any criticism on the inaccuracy of my claim, the important thing to do would be to express outrage at how the moderators could possibly allow an aardvark to post on SDMB.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/007-will-be-played-by-a-black-actress/837078/34 "2019-07-14T21:52:10Z")

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> [@Riemann](#):
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> how the moderators could possibly allow an aardvark to post on SDMB.

I would allow it (and it might be an improvement in some cases), but the claws might make it difficult to use the shift key.

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**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/007-will-be-played-by-a-black-actress/837078/35 "2019-07-14T22:09:10Z")

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> [@Baron\_Greenback](#):
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> Pierce Brosnan, George Lazenby. Your point?

Just looked her up thinking she was American for a hot second.

Now THAT would be something to be outraged about.

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/007-will-be-played-by-a-black-actress/837078/36 "2019-07-14T22:23:45Z")

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> [@Dale\_Sams](#):
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> Now THAT would be something to be outraged about.

A Step Too Far.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/007-will-be-played-by-a-black-actress/837078/37 "2019-07-14T22:27:55Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> I would allow it (and it might be an improvement in some cases), but the claws might make it difficult to use the shift key.

Coincidentally, an aardwolf just started posting.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/007-will-be-played-by-a-black-actress/837078/38 "2019-07-14T23:15:29Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> This thread is a nice concise way to out people for those of us that don’t pay super close attention to posters’ histories.

Isn’t it though. Although these folks have been making their positions clear for quite a while now.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/007-will-be-played-by-a-black-actress/837078/39 "2019-07-14T23:27:14Z")

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> [@Gray\_Ghost](#):
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> The most important question though is: Are the Chinese going to want to go this movie?

The movie audiences whose attendance made action-film stars out of Michelle Yeoh, Ziyi Zhang, and Li Bingbing? Nah, they’ll never watch it.

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**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2019, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/007-will-be-played-by-a-black-actress/837078/40 "2019-07-15T00:40:17Z")

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I wish they would of went through with the hallie berry as “jinx” spinoff series after die another day …

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