# 1. Bufford Pusser: 2. Chesty Puller

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-bufford-pusser-2-chesty-puller/846546>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [January 17, 2020, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-bufford-pusser-2-chesty-puller/846546 "2020-01-17T03:55:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2020, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-bufford-pusser-2-chesty-puller/846546/41 "2020-01-18T18:20:12Z")

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[Albert Fay Hill](https://www.depauw.edu/news-media/latest-news/details/31985/): paratrooper in 1943 and a Presbyterian minister who took on mobsters in New Rochelle in '63.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2020, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-bufford-pusser-2-chesty-puller/846546/42 "2020-01-18T19:29:07Z")

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[Alvin Cullum York](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_York), best known as Sgt. York, one of the most decorated United States Army soldiers of World War I, awards that included the Medal of Honor. Not bad for a conscientious objector.

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**Author:** ![RioRico](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f04885/32.png) [@RioRico](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RioRico)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2020, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-bufford-pusser-2-chesty-puller/846546/43 "2020-01-19T02:28:06Z")

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Identical twins Francis E. Stanley (1849–1918) and Freelan O. Stanley (1849–1940) founded a steam motorcar company after selling their photographic dry plate business to Eastman Kodak. Francis E crunched. Freelan O took to Colorado mountains for his health, drove the creation of Rocky Mountain Nat’l Park, and built the hotel where Stephen King wrote a spooky story. F.E. and F.O. Stanley, steam demons - try to beat them!

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**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2020, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-bufford-pusser-2-chesty-puller/846546/44 "2020-01-19T02:32:36Z")

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Back in the days when NFL players played 60 minutes wearing tight leather helmets, there were pretty rough players with names like Verl Lillywhite, Ed Sprinkle, Travis Tidwell, Richie Pettibone, Y A Tittle and Don Doll.

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**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2020, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-bufford-pusser-2-chesty-puller/846546/45 "2020-01-19T16:07:38Z")

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Learned a cool name just today.

Doris Miller.

Manned an AA gun at Pearl Harbor on Dec. 7th until he ran out of ammo. First African-American to win the Navy Cross. Died in combat a couple years later.

Getting a Ford-class carrier [named](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/18/us/doris-miller-aircraft-carrier.html) after him.

Sort of “a boy named Sue” type. Seems to have gone by “Dorie”. Bonus point: that is a homonym for a boat type.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2020, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-bufford-pusser-2-chesty-puller/846546/46 "2020-01-19T18:03:51Z")

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Chesley Burnett Sullenberger III. Better known as Sully, the pilot who landed his jet in the Hudson River with no loss of life.

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**Author:** ![Ace309](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ace309/32/1050_2.png) [@Ace309](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ace309)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2020, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-bufford-pusser-2-chesty-puller/846546/47 "2020-01-20T10:40:44Z")

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Is [Rosey Grier](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosey_Grier) in the spirit of this thread? He’s a needlepoint artist and author; others may be more familiar with him due to his sports, acting, and bodyguard duties.

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**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2020, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-bufford-pusser-2-chesty-puller/846546/48 "2020-01-20T12:09:17Z")

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A couple of badass boxers to consider.

Livingstone Bramble was WBA world lightweight champion. Also reputed to practise witchcraft.

And a twofer. Former British super middleweight champion Fidel Castro Smith, who fought under the name Slugger O’Toole.

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**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2020, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-bufford-pusser-2-chesty-puller/846546/49 "2020-01-20T13:31:06Z")

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Slab Hardcheese…Thick McRunfast…Bob Johnson…

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**Author:** ![mack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mack)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-bufford-pusser-2-chesty-puller/846546/50 "2020-01-21T02:23:47Z")

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> [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#):
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> Slab Hardcheese…Thick McRunfast…Bob Johnson…

[Yes they did](https://youtu.be/RFHlJ2voJHY)

Real life example from 70s baseball: Bucky Dent, Tug McGraw, Rollie Fingers

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**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-bufford-pusser-2-chesty-puller/846546/51 "2020-01-21T03:17:50Z")

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I’m surprised I’m the first to mention _[Nimrod](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nimrod)_.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-bufford-pusser-2-chesty-puller/846546/52 "2020-01-21T04:27:15Z")

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Let’s not forget Mike Tinglehoff, center for the Vikings who played in all four of the Super Bowl appearances.

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-bufford-pusser-2-chesty-puller/846546/53 "2020-01-21T04:32:58Z")

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It’s Mick Tinglehoff.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-bufford-pusser-2-chesty-puller/846546/54 "2020-01-21T04:54:02Z")

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> [@Ace309](#):
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> Is [Rosey Grier](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosey_Grier) in the spirit of this thread? He’s a needlepoint artist and author; others may be more familiar with him due to his sports, acting, and bodyguard duties.

Former college linebacker and current college head coach [Lovie Smith](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lovie_Smith).

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-bufford-pusser-2-chesty-puller/846546/55 "2020-01-21T14:19:38Z")

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> [@Bullitt](#):
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> It’s Mick Tinglehoff.

Ah, right. His first name is Michael, but he goes by Mick.

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**Author:** ![Ace309](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ace309/32/1050_2.png) [@Ace309](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ace309)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-bufford-pusser-2-chesty-puller/846546/56 "2020-01-21T14:22:33Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> Former college linebacker and current college head coach [Lovie Smith](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lovie_Smith).

Another excellent choice!

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-bufford-pusser-2-chesty-puller/846546/57 "2020-01-21T15:12:54Z")

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Sai Wing Mock aka “Mock Duck” leader of the dominant Chinese-American Tong in the Manhattan Chinatown in the early 1900s.

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> One Chinatown historian describes Mock Duck in 1904 as “strutting around on Pell Street, covered in diamonds,” adding that, at that time, “Mock Duck is firmly in control of the Hip Sing, his sinister image bolstered by his long, lethal-looking fingernails, which signal he is too grand to do the dirty work he assigns to others.”
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> Mock Duck survived repeated attempts on his life and wore a chain mail vest. He was named by the press the “Clay Pigeon of Chinatown” and the “Mayor of Chinatown”. During several attempts on his life, Mock Duck reportedly squatted down in the street and fired at his attackers with two handguns with his eyes closed.

from the [Wikipedia page](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sai_Wing_Mock).

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**Author:** ![Ca3799](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9f8e36/32.png) [@Ca3799](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ca3799)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-bufford-pusser-2-chesty-puller/846546/58 "2020-01-21T23:01:03Z")

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“Manley Pointer” was a character in the short story “Good Country People” by Flannery O’Connor.

He was an itinerant Bible salesman who seduced the one-legged daughter of some ‘good country people’ he was visiting with the ‘sexy playing cards’ and whiskey he had hidden in a hollowed-out Bible, using his, uh, manly pointer.

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