# "1 Student Killed, 7 Injured In Colorado School Shooting" **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [May 8, 2019, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-student-killed-7-injured-in-colorado-school-shooting/833651 "2019-05-08T01:43:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2019, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-student-killed-7-injured-in-colorado-school-shooting/833651/1 "2019-05-08T01:43:58Z")
**[1 Student Killed, 7 Injured In Colorado School Shooting](https://www.npr.org/2019/05/07/721200551/multiple-people-injured-in-colorado-school-shooting?utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=news)** > [@](#): > > Officials say one student is dead and seven students were injured in a shooting at a public charter school in Highlands Ranch, Colo., a suburb south of Denver. > > In a tweet, the Douglas County Sheriff’s Office said the deceased was an 18-year-old student at the STEM School. > > “It is with extreme sadness that we can confirm that 1 student at the STEM School was killed in today’s #stemshooting incident. The immediate family has been notified. Douglas County Coroner Jill Romann (who) has not officially identified the student is stating it’s an 18 year old male,” the tweet said. > > No information was available about the seven other victims. > > Two suspects are currently in custody. Douglas County Sheriff Tony Spurlock said one suspect is an adult male and the other is a juvenile male. Both are students at the STEM School. Spurlock said their names are being withheld pending further investigation. The suspects were not previously known to local law enforcement. > > “This is a terrible event. This is something that no one wants to have happen in their community,” Spurlock said in a press conference late Tuesday afternoon. “Two individuals walked into the STEM school, got deep inside the school and engaged students in two separate locations.” > > One student has been killed and seven injured in a school shooting at STEM School Highlands Ranch in Colorado. > John Leyba/Denver Post via Getty Images > > “We do have eight students in area hospitals right now. Several of them are in critical condition,” he added. > > All of the victims are 15 years and older. > … How long has it been since the last school shooting? Six days ago in Charlotte? ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2019, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-student-killed-7-injured-in-colorado-school-shooting/833651/2 "2019-05-08T01:45:30Z")
Nothing can be done about it. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2019, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-student-killed-7-injured-in-colorado-school-shooting/833651/3 "2019-05-08T02:00:18Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Nothing can be done about it. I don’t like being defeatist, but I’m beginning to agree with that statement.☹ ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2019, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-student-killed-7-injured-in-colorado-school-shooting/833651/4 "2019-05-08T02:11:25Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > I don’t like being defeatist, but I’m beginning to agree with that statement.☹ Well, you are clearly not sending enough thoughts and prayers their way. ---
**Author:** ![MoodIndigo1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e8c25b/32.png) [@MoodIndigo1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MoodIndigo1)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2019, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-student-killed-7-injured-in-colorado-school-shooting/833651/5 "2019-05-08T02:13:09Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Well, you are clearly not sending enough thoughts and prayers their way. I’m sure that the NRA and the POTUS are sending enough prayers for the rest of us. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2019, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-student-killed-7-injured-in-colorado-school-shooting/833651/6 "2019-05-08T02:13:54Z")
Bullshit. We can ban handguns if we really wanted to. We won’t, but we can. It’s gotten beyond bizarre that this news is not surprising. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2019, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-student-killed-7-injured-in-colorado-school-shooting/833651/7 "2019-05-08T02:25:03Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > Bullshit. We can ban handguns if we really wanted to. We won’t, but we can. It’s gotten beyond bizarre that this news is not surprising. That won’t work. We have to arm every teacher and every student. Just like they do in every other country that doesn’t have school shootings on a regular basis. ---
**Author:** ![Grestarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grestarian/32/3227_2.png) [@Grestarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grestarian)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2019, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-student-killed-7-injured-in-colorado-school-shooting/833651/8 "2019-05-08T22:18:07Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Nothing can be done about it. Lot’s of things CAN… Nothing WILL, because our politicians lack the WILL –G! “…for the love of money is the root of all evil.” Atlas Shrugged was supposed to be a warning, not a role-model. ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2019, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-student-killed-7-injured-in-colorado-school-shooting/833651/9 "2019-05-08T23:54:39Z")
This is pretty much in my neighborhood, one of the Redder areas of otherwise deep Blue Denver Metro. Douglas County also lost a deputy a couple New Years Days ago. And of course there was Columbine, which was Jefferson County but Littleton is in Jefferson as well as Douglas county. Seems like there was some other shoot em up out this way. Aurora is to the north east of here–that’s just crazy town. You want to get plugged up close and personal with a handgun in a deal gone bad, then you want Aurora. I seem to recall from my Sunday School days you pray for the strength to endure, not for protection. After some thoughts, I guess the reality is praying for the strength to endure the heartbreak of this kind of crap is the best anyone can hope for. Sucks. I’ve got one senior graduated early this year, and another set to walk in a couple weeks. Then the schools are someone else’s problem. ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-student-killed-7-injured-in-colorado-school-shooting/833651/10 "2019-05-09T23:51:48Z")
there is a lot to be sad about with this story but the saddest part might be how it really isn’t news. not like if it had happened years ago, anyway. it’s just the way things are now. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-student-killed-7-injured-in-colorado-school-shooting/833651/11 "2019-05-10T00:11:23Z")
> [@JackieLikesVariety](#): > > there is a lot to be sad about with this story but the saddest part might be how it really isn’t news. not like if it had happened years ago, anyway. it’s just the way things are now. ☹ In our local newspaper, it wasn’t even on the front page. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-student-killed-7-injured-in-colorado-school-shooting/833651/12 "2019-05-10T00:15:08Z")
a couple of years ago I made a thread about how eventually wed see these things like the middle east/Israel sees bombings… just a part of life that might get page 6 or 5 minutes on the tv news … Sadly its come to pass … ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-student-killed-7-injured-in-colorado-school-shooting/833651/13 "2019-05-10T01:16:18Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > Bullshit. We can ban handguns if we really wanted to. We won’t, but we can. It’s gotten beyond bizarre that this news is not surprising. OK, for arguments sake, we ban all guns everywhere. Every single gun is now gone. How does that prevent a student from killing another? ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-student-killed-7-injured-in-colorado-school-shooting/833651/14 "2019-05-10T01:26:39Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > OK, for arguments sake, we ban all guns everywhere. Every single gun is now gone. > > How does that prevent a student from killing another? It doesn’t. But it makes it a lot harder to achieve. ---
**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-student-killed-7-injured-in-colorado-school-shooting/833651/15 "2019-05-10T01:36:50Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > OK, for arguments sake, we ban all guns everywhere. Every single gun is now gone. > > How does that prevent a student from killing another? Through magic. Or that would be how it would appear to someone like you. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-student-killed-7-injured-in-colorado-school-shooting/833651/16 "2019-05-10T02:56:48Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > OK, for arguments sake, we ban all guns everywhere. Every single gun is now gone. > > How does that prevent a student from killing another? How do other countries prevent it? Sure, they can’t prevent it totally, but in the US there have been [15 school shootings in the first 19 weeks of the year](https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/08/us/school-shootings-us-2019-trnd/index.html). This is unprecedented in any other country in the world. And it only represents one particular aspect of the gun violence crisis. ---
**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-student-killed-7-injured-in-colorado-school-shooting/833651/17 "2019-05-10T12:40:49Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > OK, for arguments sake, we ban all guns everywhere. Every single gun is now gone. > > How does that prevent a student from killing another? Some people, not everyone, but a significant number of people feel powerful with a firearm in their hand. They like that feeling of power. A tactical knife or something like that can give a similar feeling of power but to a much much lesser degree. But, in real life, without the gun in their hand, the cold hard truth might be that they are not actually so cool, powerful and almighty. In fact, they may be thought of by their classmates as losers. Why do the people at school make them feel like losers when they are actually so cool and powerful??? A big question. Add hormones, bitchiness, bullying, and breaking points. Then add bullets. ---
**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-student-killed-7-injured-in-colorado-school-shooting/833651/18 "2019-05-10T13:29:04Z")
**Moderator Action** Since this thread has been hijacked by the broader gun control issue, which was probably inevitable given the topic, let’s move this to Great Debates (from MPSIMS). ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-student-killed-7-injured-in-colorado-school-shooting/833651/19 "2019-05-10T13:32:05Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > How do other countries prevent it? I don’t get out much, so this is a genuine question. Do other countries place as much emphasis as we do on the importance of self as opposed to community? Because, yes, guns make it real easy to get up to shenanigans, but what I want to know is what makes people want to do this stuff in the first place? What sorts of people do this? And what are they needing from the rest of us that they’re not getting? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-student-killed-7-injured-in-colorado-school-shooting/833651/20 "2019-05-10T13:35:49Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > OK, for arguments sake, we ban all guns everywhere. Every single gun is now gone. > > How does that prevent a student from killing another? Killing people without a gun is harder than killing people with a gun. Killing multiple people is even harder. And certain guns are more effective at killing in different circumstances. That’s one of the reasons why so many gun-owners want them for self-defense – it’s easier to kill a potential murderer/rapist with a gun than without one. Do you dispute any of this? If not, then what’s your point? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-student-killed-7-injured-in-colorado-school-shooting/833651.md?page=2)