# \-1 to -10 Hit Points(the De'endee Mafia Forbidden Thread) **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [July 8, 2011, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-to-10-hit-points-the-deendee-mafia-forbidden-thread/588335 "2011-07-08T17:44:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2011, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-to-10-hit-points-the-deendee-mafia-forbidden-thread/588335/1 "2011-07-08T17:44:58Z")
Do not enter here if you are alive in the game! ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2011, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-to-10-hit-points-the-deendee-mafia-forbidden-thread/588335/2 "2011-07-08T17:45:58Z")
Sign-up, or re-sign-up for the sub list here, please. No spoilers in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2011, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-to-10-hit-points-the-deendee-mafia-forbidden-thread/588335/3 "2011-07-08T17:46:41Z")
“I’m not dead yet” “You will be soon, you totally have -5 hit points!” “I’m getting better!” ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2011, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-to-10-hit-points-the-deendee-mafia-forbidden-thread/588335/4 "2011-07-08T17:52:35Z")
Should this have been called “0 to -10 Hit Points”? I can’t remember if 0 HP means the player is conscious or not. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2011, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-to-10-hit-points-the-deendee-mafia-forbidden-thread/588335/5 "2011-07-08T18:27:26Z")
Probably depends on edition. IIRC in 3.x you were still conscious but disabled and basically couldn’t take any action, but did not start to lose HP every round. ---
**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2011, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-to-10-hit-points-the-deendee-mafia-forbidden-thread/588335/6 "2011-07-08T20:24:30Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Should this have been called “0 to -10 Hit Points”? I can’t remember if 0 HP means the player is conscious or not. In 3.x at 0 you could do nothing but take a move-equivalent action per round and remain conscious, standing, and at 0. If you took a partial action instead, you would instantly drop to -1 and bleeding. Full round actions were right out. I believe you could also willingly choose to go unconscious and stable at 0 if you wanted, though I’m not sure if that was an official rule. It makes sense given the other options, though. (Since faking uncosciousness, required a bluff opposed by sense motive, I can’t see why there wouldn’t have been a mechanic for going uncoscious when you’re taking all your will just to stand.) ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2011, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-to-10-hit-points-the-deendee-mafia-forbidden-thread/588335/7 "2011-07-09T01:36:30Z")
Put me on the sub list please ---
**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2011, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-to-10-hit-points-the-deendee-mafia-forbidden-thread/588335/8 "2011-07-09T07:59:45Z")
I now know why I had to drop out. I’m epic, and thus bust the level cap. 😃 Maybe if my simulacrum’s simulacrum made a simulacrum… I shall be watching the game between setting up kobold tribes and general plotting. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2011, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-to-10-hit-points-the-deendee-mafia-forbidden-thread/588335/9 "2011-07-09T13:59:30Z")
> [@De'endee Mafia](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/109): > > Got my PM. > > Not happy about a level cap, I’m working on a mod to change that. Um, not sure I would’ve said this… even in jest. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2011, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-to-10-hit-points-the-deendee-mafia-forbidden-thread/588335/10 "2011-07-09T14:09:11Z")
Hmmm, I thought I had read somewhere that Vanilla Town cannot get XP/Level up, but now I can’t find where that might have been said. ---
**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2011, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-to-10-hit-points-the-deendee-mafia-forbidden-thread/588335/11 "2011-07-09T15:11:48Z")
> [@USCDiver](#): > > Hmmm, I thought I had read somewhere that Vanilla Town cannot get XP/Level up, but now I can’t find where that might have been said. Post [post=13995389]26[/post]. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2011, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-to-10-hit-points-the-deendee-mafia-forbidden-thread/588335/12 "2011-07-09T16:42:20Z")
> [@MHaye](#): > > Post [post=13995389]26[/post]. So it is… and it was \*\*Romanic \*\*that posed the question in the first place. He’s probably fishing for something. I’ve only played Evil Dead II with him when he got outted as the Truck Driver or something on Day 1 and left the game in his Truck to avoid a sure lynch. ---
**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2011, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-to-10-hit-points-the-deendee-mafia-forbidden-thread/588335/13 "2011-07-09T21:23:26Z")
I remember the Hitch-hiker (that was the role - he hitched out in a large truck.) He’s played several times since - the last I know of was as the Killer Rabbit (on Idle’s board) in Holy Grail Mafia. He’s fairly good. I didn’t read that post with nefarious intent though. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2011, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-to-10-hit-points-the-deendee-mafia-forbidden-thread/588335/14 "2011-07-12T13:35:28Z")
Yeah, I think Romanic knows what he is doing. Right now he is one of three people that I have on my probable town list. Choie and Pede are the other two. The townie thing came up in a way that I think is organic for a new player and Pede is exactly the type of town player that would jump all over that. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2011, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-to-10-hit-points-the-deendee-mafia-forbidden-thread/588335/15 "2011-07-12T13:57:25Z")
> [@MHaye](#): > > I remember the Hitch-hiker (that was the role - he hitched out in a large truck.) > > He’s played several times since - the last I know of was as the Killer Rabbit (on Idle’s board) in Holy Grail Mafia. He’s fairly good. > > I didn’t read that post with nefarious intent though. I didn’t read it as nefarious, I read it as a Power Role tell. A vanilla Townie wouldn’t care about a levelling cap. Unless, he’s done it intentionally to draw Scum fire to himself. WIFOM indeed. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2011, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-to-10-hit-points-the-deendee-mafia-forbidden-thread/588335/16 "2011-07-12T14:37:41Z")
Put me on the sub list as well, please. Also, I gotta say–I really, really desperately hate the town strategy of “I’m going to make magic-bag comments so scum THINK I’m a power role.” ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2011, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-to-10-hit-points-the-deendee-mafia-forbidden-thread/588335/17 "2011-07-12T16:21:46Z")
Why the sudden popularity in vote-based hammer mechanisms? It gives an excuse for players not to participate. **Zeriel** , can you define what you mean by “magic bag”, because the way you’re using it doesn’t seem to match how I’d use it. For me, a magic bag is a promise of an unknown power or information, to be revealed in the future. For example, “I saw **Cecil** do something last Night; I’ll tell you after the lynch”. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2011, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-to-10-hit-points-the-deendee-mafia-forbidden-thread/588335/18 "2011-07-14T02:47:40Z")
Is it me, or do a few players think that once they place their second vote, they are locked in? We have stated that the votes only are locked in if they are on the same person, but I’m not sure if everyone gets that. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2011, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-to-10-hit-points-the-deendee-mafia-forbidden-thread/588335/19 "2011-07-14T03:36:51Z")
I think _everybody_ thinks that now. I’m hoping someone notices and thinks to ask us to clarify. Your post on the subject could not have been more clear. "Yes, but if you place two votes on one person, you can not unvote them. That is what Astral mean by “simultaneous votes.” ---
**Author:** ![Weedy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/weedy/32/301_2.png) [@Weedy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weedy)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2011, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-to-10-hit-points-the-deendee-mafia-forbidden-thread/588335/20 "2011-07-14T04:01:26Z")
Damn, I missed the sign-up for this game. Guess watching along is good, too. Put me on the sub list too, please. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-to-10-hit-points-the-deendee-mafia-forbidden-thread/588335.md?page=2)