# 1 Trump voters thoughts **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 13, 2016, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-trump-voters-thoughts/771727 "2016-11-13T00:09:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2016, 8:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-trump-voters-thoughts/771727/41 "2016-11-13T08:38:30Z")
Why is it that when I see the words “I’m not here to argue”, they are said by someone that wants to post an opinion they know will be controversial but they have no intention of listening to anybody else? “I’ve said what I’ve got to say-Conversation’s over!” ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2016, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-trump-voters-thoughts/771727/42 "2016-11-13T09:51:42Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > There are many studies that show about 1/3 of Democrats don’t believe in evolution. > About [twice](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/02/09/heres-how-many-americans-are-actually-anti-vaxxers/) as many Dems are anti-vaxxers as Pubs. > But here is the difference. We don’t call the Dems “ignorant” or “deplorable” or “uneducated”. Your side does that all of the time to us. Cute. Which democratic politicians are backing that up? We see this difference again and again. The democrats tend to weed the crazy out of their elected leaders. The republicans don’t. Who was the last democratic congressman to say something as certifiably anti-science as Paul Broun’s statement that evolution, embryology, and the big bang are “lies from the pit of hell”? Paul Broun, I must remind you, is a member of the _House Science Committee_. The republicans appointed James Inhofe, who thought bringing a fucking _snowball_ into congress was a good argument against global warming, as the head of the senate environmental committee. You could try calling the democrats “ignorant” or “deplorable” and say it’s the same, but once again you run into the little eensy-weensy problem that _we didn’t nominate and elect Donald Trump to the highest office of the land!_ ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2016, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-trump-voters-thoughts/771727/43 "2016-11-13T11:27:08Z")
> [@notheretoargue](#): > > Let me add, I voted for DT. Doesn’t mean I had to like it. I did what I felt was best for me and my family. > > And I narrowly decided that I think he is probably in my best interests. But we knew exactly what we would get under HC. Trump was a calculated gamble. (insert math joke) I knew what we would get under Hillary. Eight years of experience as a U.S. Senator and four years as Secretary of State. I’ll take that over a maverick outsider any day. And she wouldn’t have even needed to tour the White House. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![jshore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5e925/32.png) [@jshore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jshore)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2016, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-trump-voters-thoughts/771727/44 "2016-11-13T13:59:03Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > There are many studies that show about 1/3 of Democrats don’t believe in evolution. > About [twice](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/02/09/heres-how-many-americans-are-actually-anti-vaxxers/) as many Dems are anti-vaxxers as Pubs. No…From your own source (bolding added): > [@](#): > > The poll also shows more Democrats (9 percent) and independents (10 percent) say the measles vaccine isn’t safe than Republicans who say the same (5 percent). These differences are well within the margin of error, but the aforementioned Pew poll showed **Republicans were more likely than Democrats to say vaccines should be a matter of choice.** **Budget Player Cadet** already explained to you the distinction between the party that marginalizes the anti-science views in their party and the party that puts them in leadership roles, including now the Presidency. ---
**Author:** ![Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/channing_idaho_banks/32/250_2.png) [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Channing_Idaho_Banks)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2016, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-trump-voters-thoughts/771727/45 "2016-11-13T14:43:56Z")
If you’re lucky, Donald Trump will ban apostrophes, because they’re so hard to use. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2016, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-trump-voters-thoughts/771727/46 "2016-11-13T17:18:03Z")
> [@notheretoargue](#): > > Honestly this was the last thing I wanted when I started this thread. > > I understand it should not have been put in the election forum, that is my fault. You are witnessing-- i.e., professing something without being willing to engage in a debate. In that case, GD is the right place. It’s usually religious witnessing, but we do get political witnessing once in awhile. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2016, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-trump-voters-thoughts/771727/47 "2016-11-13T18:24:37Z")
> [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](#): > > If you’re lucky, Donald Trump will ban apostrophes, because they’re so hard to use. As well as that Oxford comma, I would imagine! A plain old American wing-tip comma, in black, ought to be enough for any right-thinking American! ---
**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2016, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-trump-voters-thoughts/771727/48 "2016-11-13T18:27:30Z")
> [@jshore](#): > > No…From your own source (bolding added): > > **Budget Player Cadet** already explained to you the distinction between the party that marginalizes the anti-science views in their party and the party that puts them in leadership roles, including now the Presidency. If you are positing that the President-Elect is a Republican I’d wait a while … ---
**Author:** ![jshore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5e925/32.png) [@jshore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jshore)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2016, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-trump-voters-thoughts/771727/49 "2016-11-13T20:23:39Z")
> [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](#): > > If you’re lucky, Donald Trump will ban apostrophes, because they’re so hard to use. 😃 My favorite line in this piece [https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/post-election-college-paper-grading-rubric](https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/post-election-college-paper-grading-rubric) is “Uses elitist punctuation like the semicolon.” ---
**Author:** ![notheretoargue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e95f7d/32.png) [@notheretoargue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notheretoargue)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2016, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-trump-voters-thoughts/771727/50 "2016-11-14T00:12:15Z")
I could have worded things a lot better. I had a few drinks. It’s been a high stress week. Wasn’t here to kick the hornets nest. And I damn sure wasn’t here to talk politics with the hornets when they came out either. Not the time or place for the thought I wanted to get across. ---
**Author:** ![notheretoargue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e95f7d/32.png) [@notheretoargue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notheretoargue)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2016, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-trump-voters-thoughts/771727/51 "2016-11-14T01:25:11Z")
Oh but seriously, as the great Glenn Beck says… Just kidding. Mellow out folks I’m pretty sure the reeducation camps were never in play. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2016, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-trump-voters-thoughts/771727/52 "2016-11-14T01:29:22Z")
Only people on one side of this debate ever bring up “reeducation camps”. Care to guess which side that might be? ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2016, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-trump-voters-thoughts/771727/53 "2016-11-14T01:39:42Z")
> [@notheretoargue](#): > > I could have worded things a lot better. I had a few drinks. It’s been a high stress week. > Wasn’t here to kick the hornets nest. And I damn sure wasn’t here to talk politics with the hornets when they came out either. > > Not the time or place for the thought I wanted to get across. If you read the more reasonable responses to you in this thread (and there really are some), it’s from people who are asking if you’d be willing to articulate what you’d initially stated: You said that you gambled that Trump would be better for you and your family. What about him or his stated plans led you to decide that? You also said that you were certain of what you would get from Clinton. What, exactly, was that? ---
**Author:** ![notheretoargue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e95f7d/32.png) [@notheretoargue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notheretoargue)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2016, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-trump-voters-thoughts/771727/54 "2016-11-14T01:43:07Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Only people on one side of this debate ever bring up “reeducation camps”. > Care to guess which side that might be? See, when you make huge sweeping generalizations like that, you are usually going to be wrong as you are here. Anyway I am what I say I am. I’m done. God bless. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2016, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-trump-voters-thoughts/771727/55 "2016-11-14T01:47:32Z")
> [@notheretoargue](#): > > See, when you make huge sweeping generalizations like that, you are usually going to be wrong as you are here. > > Anyway I am what I say I am. I’m done. God bless. That’s nice. For future reference, btw, “'Cause I say so”, or words that add up to that basic premise are not very effective around these parts. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2016, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-trump-voters-thoughts/771727/56 "2016-11-14T03:15:14Z")
> [@notheretoargue](#): > > Let me add, I voted for DT. Doesn’t mean I had to like it. I did what I felt was best for me and my family. > > And I narrowly decided that I think he is probably in my best interests. But we knew exactly what we would get under HC. Trump was a calculated gamble. (insert math joke) Do you mind if I direct you to the wiki page on the [bare assertion fallacy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipse_dixit)? I think that is the flaw in your posting in this thread, and what everyone is really complaining about. To be fair, you said, “I did what **I felt** was best for me and my family.” (bolding mine) One can’t really argue with feelings, and I have come to the conclusion that Trump won by appealing to pathos rather than logos, and you have helped to confirm that opinion, so thank you for that. OTOH, you said that “ **we knew** exactly what we would get under HC.” (bolding mine again) The phrase “we knew” implies some kind of factual, verifiable basis for the statement. Asking, “how did you know?” and “What exactly would we get under HC?” isn’t really arguing- we just want to know specifically what your point is. So I join the chorus of posters asking you to clarify your position. What, in your opinion, would we have gotten under HC? How did you know that? And if you don’t mind saying a few words about why, as a Trump supporter, you think that a Trump administration is best for you and your family, I’d appreciate it. I promise I won’t argue, I just want to understand where you are coming from. Welcome to the SDMB! ---
**Author:** ![Waymore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Waymore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waymore)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-trump-voters-thoughts/771727/57 "2016-11-15T13:21:25Z")
> [@panache45](#): > > Don’t expect Trump to remain President for long. As soon as he fixes trade deals and tax issues in his favor, he’ll have fulfilled his mission. Your best interest is not his concern, and never was. > > So you basically helped elect President Pence. :eek: Your best interest was never Hillary’s concern either. If you believe otherwise you’re as gullible as you believe Trump voters to be. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-trump-voters-thoughts/771727/58 "2016-11-15T13:26:55Z")
> [@Waymore](#): > > Your best interest was never Hillary’s concern either. If you believe otherwise you’re as gullible as you believe Trump voters to be. That being the case, why not choose the one not fueling people’s fears and bigotry? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-trump-voters-thoughts/771727/59 "2016-11-15T13:29:27Z")
Oh, so now something is _wrong_ with fear and bigotry! ---
**Author:** ![Waymore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Waymore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waymore)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-trump-voters-thoughts/771727/60 "2016-11-15T13:31:37Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > That being the case, why not choose the one not fueling people’s fears and bigotry? Why pick either? But libs fears are fantastically and hilariously overwrought and words like “bigotry” are thrown around so much it undergone semantic bleaching. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-trump-voters-thoughts/771727.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-trump-voters-thoughts/771727.md?page=4)