# 10/11?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-11/376085>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 11, 2006, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-11/376085 "2006-10-11T18:58:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![the\_PC\_apeman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ac8455/32.png) [@the\_PC\_apeman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_PC_apeman)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2006, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-11/376085/1 "2006-10-11T18:58:32Z")

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Breaking News:  
A small aircraft has crashed into a NYC building. Is it nothing? Is today’s date (11th) important? I really hope this is just an accident.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2006, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-11/376085/2 "2006-10-11T19:01:45Z")

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Right now they are saying a small helicopter crashed in the vicinity of East 71st/72nd street near the East River. At first glance, this is not an attack.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2006, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-11/376085/3 "2006-10-11T19:03:24Z")

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Forgot to mention, it’s residential.

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**Author:** ![LonesomePolecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e57/32.png) [@LonesomePolecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LonesomePolecat)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2006, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-11/376085/4 "2006-10-11T19:04:21Z")

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[QUOTE=ThePCapeman]  
Breaking News:  
A small aircraft has crashed into a NYC building. Is it nothing? Is today’s date (11th) important? I really hope this is just an accident.  
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Linky?

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**Author:** ![the\_PC\_apeman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ac8455/32.png) [@the\_PC\_apeman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_PC_apeman)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2006, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-11/376085/5 "2006-10-11T19:05:24Z")

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“Twin-engine general aviation plane” is the latest. Certainly nothing on the scale of 9/11 if an attack at all. It’s smack-dab in the middle of the building. Perhaps something more like that Florida kid if intentional at all.

No link yet. Seeing it live on CNN.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2006, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-11/376085/6 "2006-10-11T19:06:14Z")

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Links are useless at this time; no one knows anything more than [Plane crashes into Manhattan building](http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/plane_nyc). Everything else is speculation.

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**Author:** ![Wee\_Bairn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/90db22/32.png) [@Wee\_Bairn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wee_Bairn)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2006, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-11/376085/7 "2006-10-11T19:07:46Z")

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If terrorism is involved, this is one lame attack.

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**Author:** ![Astroboy14](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/df705f/32.png) [@Astroboy14](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astroboy14)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2006, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-11/376085/8 "2006-10-11T19:08:15Z")

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[Cnn.com](http://Cnn.com) doesn’t have anything useful at all…

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2006, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-11/376085/9 "2006-10-11T19:14:41Z")

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Just so everyone knows, there is a parallel thread in the MPSIMS: [Breaking news: plane just crashed into NYC building](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=7859248#post7859248)  
No real news yet, but it looks like an accident. I hope it was.

jim

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2006, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-11/376085/10 "2006-10-11T19:20:50Z")

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It seems like it would be a simple matter to determine if was an act of terrorism (which I believe it was not). Is it even possible to pilot a small plane without somebody knowing about it? Process of elimination should determine what it was and who was flying it.

Or am I wrong?

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2006, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-11/376085/11 "2006-10-11T19:22:02Z")

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For those who want an idea of the area, on google maps, enter 525 East 72nd Street, New York, NY

There’s a heliport nearby.

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**Author:** ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2006, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-11/376085/12 "2006-10-11T19:29:53Z")

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Small aircraft sounds like from a witness, was acting like it stalled out. This is right by Cornel’s Hospital. Sounds pretty unlikely to be a terrorist attack, and if so, pretty darn small scale. They say that HAZmat tape is up… but people are standing around on both sides of it without protective gear. Sounds mostly just like spilled fuel.

Sort of a bizarre moment: woman on Fox says she saw it happen and then saw an update about it on CNN… she then looked askance and apologized: I guess because FOX doesn’t like anyone mentioning that they were watching or getting their news from a competitor.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2006, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-11/376085/13 "2006-10-11T19:31:31Z")

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Looks like the NYFD is getting this under control and the structure is going to survive. Good job, firemen!

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2006, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-11/376085/14 "2006-10-11T19:32:22Z")

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[QUOTE=Apos]  
Small aircraft sounds like from a witness, was acting like it stalled out. This is right by Cornel’s Hospital. Sounds pretty unlikely to be a terrorist attack, and if so, pretty darn small scale. They say that HAZmat tape is up… but people are standing around on both sides of it without protective gear. Sounds mostly just like spilled fuel.

Sort of a bizarre moment: woman on Fox says she saw it happen and then saw an update about it on CNN… she then looked askance and apologized: I guess because FOX doesn’t like anyone mentioning that they were watching or getting their news from a competitor.  
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I just saw the same interview. She said she saw a small white 4 seater airplane.  
FOX 5 also reported that SWAT was on the scene just in case.

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**Author:** ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2006, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-11/376085/15 "2006-10-11T19:36:36Z")

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Fighter planes launched to bring sonic booms of super freedom to cities around the US as well to drop leaflets about how the Democrats are behind the Foley scandal.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2006, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-11/376085/16 "2006-10-11T19:45:21Z")

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Run! The North Koreans are attacking!

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**Author:** ![the\_PC\_apeman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ac8455/32.png) [@the\_PC\_apeman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_PC_apeman)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2006, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-11/376085/17 "2006-10-11T19:47:10Z")

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[QUOTE=BobLibDem]  
Looks like the NYFD is getting this under control and the structure is going to survive. Good job, firemen!  
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They earn their NY’s Bravest title yet again. The WTC had to be somewhere in the minds of these folk as they rushed into the building. Can’t be said too much. Good job!

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2006, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-11/376085/18 "2006-10-11T19:53:10Z")

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[QUOTE=D\_Odds]  
Run! The North Koreans are attacking!  
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_snerk_

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2006, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-11/376085/19 "2006-10-11T20:01:58Z")

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One of the non-talking non-head idiots on MSNBC just said “I am actually, physically looking at the building right now.”

Another one previously had said “This just in: The White House has been informed!” Ya think?

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**Author:** ![the\_PC\_apeman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ac8455/32.png) [@the\_PC\_apeman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_PC_apeman)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2006, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-11/376085/20 "2006-10-11T20:08:17Z")

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[QUOTE=Contrapuntal]  
One of the non-talking non-head idiots on MSNBC just said “I am actually, physically looking at the building right now.”

Another one previously had said “This just in: The White House has been informed!” Ya think?  
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Was Bush still trying to read _The Pet Goat_?

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