# 10 Commandments **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [February 4, 2012, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-commandments/611736 "2012-02-04T05:19:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2012, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-commandments/611736/61 "2012-02-04T07:05:50Z")
> [@Granny\_Rainbow](#): > > O, really? Is money not a God? No. I need money to live; I don’t need God to live. I could try living without any money and make my life more difficult than I want it to be, or I could go away and try to join a culture that doesn’t have money (I’d need money to get there), but those do represent major hardships and sound unpleasant. The no-God thing has been working great for me, though. > [@](#): > > Or drugs? Sex? Maybe if you have a serious addiction. Otherwise, no. > [@](#): > > Do these things take our mind off of what is important in the long run? What about people who think God takes our minds off what’s actually important in the long run- stuff like not lying and cheating and murdering each other? > [@Granny\_Rainbow](#): > > And the mess we are in is a direct result of not following his general rules HE set down for us. If those rules predate him and don’t have much to do with him in the first place, I don’t think you can say the mess has much to do with ignoring God. > [@Granny\_Rainbow](#): > > I am not promoting any religion or belief system. Maybe you don’t think so, but I think you’re wrong about that. > [@ambushed](#): > > Oh, my! It seems that it’s not just **Granny Rainbow** who doesn’t seem to know or remember the **official** Ten Commandments! Eh. I think you can make a solid case that the general version of what most people mean when they talk about those Commandments is more “official” than what’s in the Bible. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2012, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-commandments/611736/62 "2012-02-04T07:07:02Z")
These problems and adversities that we (humanity) wouldn’t ever have faced if only we had adhered to the Ten Commandments are part of the very fabric of the human condition; part of what it means to be human. ---
**Author:** ![Granny\_Rainbow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/85e7bf/32.png) [@Granny\_Rainbow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Granny_Rainbow)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2012, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-commandments/611736/63 "2012-02-04T07:08:00Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > Indeed. That is why I said it was _all dressed-up_ as an intellectual argument. UM hm, yea. So what? ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2012, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-commandments/611736/64 "2012-02-04T07:09:58Z")
> [@Granny\_Rainbow](#): > > O, really? Is money not a God? Or drugs? Sex? Do these things take our mind off of what is important in the long run? No, no, and no. None of those things are god. Yes, there are people who are obsessed with getting one or all of those things, but that does not make money or drugs or sex a god. And even though YOU might think that your god is important in the long run, many people do not. Nor will they think that your god is important, no matter how much you keep repeating yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Granny\_Rainbow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/85e7bf/32.png) [@Granny\_Rainbow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Granny_Rainbow)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2012, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-commandments/611736/65 "2012-02-04T07:11:59Z")
> [@ambushed](#): > > That’s non-responsive. Your premise is _particularly_ stupid and false. DO not misquote me!! That is foul and stupid. I have not quoted the BIBLE nor scripture! ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2012, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-commandments/611736/66 "2012-02-04T07:13:25Z")
_What_ misquote? ---
**Author:** ![ambushed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3bc359/32.png) [@ambushed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ambushed)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2012, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-commandments/611736/67 "2012-02-04T07:15:43Z")
> [@Granny\_Rainbow](#): > > You need to read the Bible, rather than Wiki. > [@Granny\_Rainbow](#): > > Dr…you need to read what the Word really says instead of what you think it says. No, _ **you** _ need to read the actual Ten Commandments, as I did and quoted in my post [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14739076&postcount=59) ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2012, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-commandments/611736/68 "2012-02-04T07:18:29Z")
> [@Granny\_Rainbow](#): > > UM hm, yea. So what? Wait, let me get this straight; are you admitting this thread was started just in order to proselytize? ---
**Author:** ![Granny\_Rainbow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/85e7bf/32.png) [@Granny\_Rainbow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Granny_Rainbow)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2012, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-commandments/611736/69 "2012-02-04T07:18:48Z")
> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#): > > No, no, and no. None of those things are god. Yes, there are people who are obsessed with getting one or all of those things, but that does not make money or drugs or sex a god. > > And even though YOU might think that your god is important in the long run, many people do not. Nor will they think that your god is important, no matter how much you keep repeating yourself. I have not preached at ANY of you!! Or tried to convince you of any religious belief, have I? I thought with this being an intellectual forum, one could expect inetllectlual discourse on any topic. You have all proved me wrong, and I see that an Opposition to the Word is prevalent. I have not espoused any religion, or belief system. You have all proven that you are resistant to any moral suggestions. My initial query was: Would the world be a better place if Humanity would have followd the 10 commandments in the thousands of years of human history? Actually you have proved the answer. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![ambushed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3bc359/32.png) [@ambushed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ambushed)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2012, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-commandments/611736/70 "2012-02-04T07:18:50Z")
> [@Granny\_Rainbow](#): > > DO not misquote me!! That is foul and stupid. I have not quoted the BIBLE nor scripture! I didn’t quote or misquote anyone! Your premise states, and I quote it verbatim: > [@Granny\_Rainbow](#): > > (I might still get deleted) Butt..All of you people that think you are so modern, intelligent, informed…don’t you think if the 10 commandments had been obeyed thru out humanity’s existence, there would be hardly any of the troubles we see today? And that _is_ particularly stupid and false. I tried gentle satire twice with you, but that didn’t work, so I’m forced into blunt and straightforward little words. ---
**Author:** ![Granny\_Rainbow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/85e7bf/32.png) [@Granny\_Rainbow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Granny_Rainbow)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2012, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-commandments/611736/71 "2012-02-04T07:19:55Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > Wait, let me get this straight; are you admitting this thread was started in order to proselytize? Am I promoting any religion, honey? ---
**Author:** ![Anamorphic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/anamorphic/32/3057_2.png) [@Anamorphic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anamorphic)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2012, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-commandments/611736/72 "2012-02-04T07:22:23Z")
> [@Granny\_Rainbow](#): > > Am I promoting any religion, honey? Yes: > [@Granny\_Rainbow](#): > > We have a CREATOR and HE should set the rules for our behaviour! ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2012, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-commandments/611736/73 "2012-02-04T07:22:42Z")
> [@Granny\_Rainbow](#): > > Am I promoting any religion, honey? I’m reading this as a promotion of Christianity, yes. Of course you aren’t coming outright in those terms and proclaiming it. ---
**Author:** ![Granny\_Rainbow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/85e7bf/32.png) [@Granny\_Rainbow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Granny_Rainbow)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2012, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-commandments/611736/74 "2012-02-04T07:24:16Z")
> [@ambushed](#): > > No, _ **you** _ need to read the actual Ten Commandments, as I did and quoted in my post [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14739076&postcount=59) actually…no…I just want intelllectual discourse…I am not out to convert anyone ---
**Author:** ![Granny\_Rainbow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/85e7bf/32.png) [@Granny\_Rainbow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Granny_Rainbow)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2012, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-commandments/611736/75 "2012-02-04T07:25:47Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > I’m reading this as a promotion of Christianity, yes. Of course you aren’t coming outright in those terms and proclaiming it. Not necessarily Christianity, just what I believe. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2012, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-commandments/611736/76 "2012-02-04T07:27:52Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > … butt-raping a ten-year-old boy … Which, as long as you’re single, it’s not the sabbath, and you avoid saying the Lord’s name . . . isn’t covered by the Big Ten. :eek: Kinda light on all the rapey stuff, idn’t it? “That which is hateful to you, do not do to your fellow.” Hillel in one for the win! CMC fnord! > [@Granny\_Rainbow](#): > > HE … HE … He? Excuse me . . . excuse me I’d just like to ask a question. What does God need with a [del]starship[/del] penis? ---
**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2012, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-commandments/611736/77 "2012-02-04T07:28:24Z")
> [@Granny\_Rainbow](#): > > (I might still get deleted) Butt..All of you people that think you are so modern, intelligent, informed…don’t you think if the 10 commandments had been obeyed thru out humanity’s existence, there would be hardly any of the troubles we see today? That particular set of rules has too much extraneous stuff that wouldn’t make a whit of a difference in how the world turns out. I’m pretty sure that the ethics of reciprocity would suffice just fine and the world would probably be a better place if everyone practiced it. It also doesn’t require any religious story to back it up and is a lot easier to remember than 10 (or 613) commandments, some of which are downright silly. I’ve got a killer recipe for beef stroganoff and think the world is a better place because of it, not in spite of it. ---
**Author:** ![Granny\_Rainbow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/85e7bf/32.png) [@Granny\_Rainbow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Granny_Rainbow)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2012, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-commandments/611736/78 "2012-02-04T07:28:55Z")
> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#): > > No, no, and no. None of those things are god. Yes, there are people who are obsessed with getting one or all of those things, but that does not make money or drugs or sex a god. > > And even though YOU might think that your god is important in the long run, many people do not. Nor will they think that your god is important, no matter how much you keep repeating yourself. You know…I don’t care. What you and ‘them’ don’t know is that 'GOD’is everywhere and aware of every thing. I’m sure you do not believe this…but do you Really??? Are you sure there is not A Supreme being recording everything??? ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2012, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-commandments/611736/79 "2012-02-04T07:30:52Z")
> [@Granny\_Rainbow](#): > > Am I promoting any religion, honey? You are me old duck, with all the religious statements you’re making. Since you’ve told us that “HE” is watching everything, “GOD” doesn’t want us to make idols, etc. etc, but also that “this is not about religion or christian values”, strikes me that you’re kicking down the back door of the false witness commandment. > [@Granny Weatherwax](#): > > What you and ‘them’ don’t know is that 'GOD’is everywhere and aware of every thing. I’m sure you do not believe this…but do you Really??? Are you sure there is not A Supreme being recording everything??? Can’t speak for Lynn, but I’m pretty damn sure it’s a load of old nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![Granny\_Rainbow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/85e7bf/32.png) [@Granny\_Rainbow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Granny_Rainbow)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2012, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-commandments/611736/80 "2012-02-04T07:31:35Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > Which, as long as you’re single, it’s not the sabbath, and you avoid saying the Lord’s name . . . isn’t covered by the Big Ten. :eek: > > Kinda light on all the rapey stuff, idn’t it? > > “That which is hateful to you, do not do to your fellow.” Hillel in one for the win! > > CMC fnord! > He? Excuse me . . . excuse me I’d just like to ask a question. What does God need with a [del]starship[/del] penis? “HE” for “God”…whatever you want…if you are right…yay…if you are wrong…??? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-commandments/611736.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-commandments/611736.md?page=5)