# 10 Marriages Among Top 5 Pub Candidates

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 4, 2007, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-marriages-among-top-5-pub-candidates/394515 "2007-03-04T05:44:14Z")\
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**Author:** ![DanBlather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@DanBlather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DanBlather)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2007, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-marriages-among-top-5-pub-candidates/394515/1 "2007-03-04T05:44:14Z")

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New poll of top 5 pub candiates:  
Mitt Romney 21%  
Rudy Giuliani 17%.  
Sam Brownback 15%  
Newt Gingrich 14%  
John McCain, 12%,  
You can tell the Republican candidates are pro-family because they have 10 marriages among them. Jerks.

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**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2007, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-marriages-among-top-5-pub-candidates/394515/2 "2007-03-04T06:13:14Z")

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More marriages make more families. Hence, pro-family.

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2007, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-marriages-among-top-5-pub-candidates/394515/3 "2007-03-04T06:14:02Z")

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Newt’s not a candidate, and may never be.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2007, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-marriages-among-top-5-pub-candidates/394515/4 "2007-03-04T06:23:28Z")

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:rolleyes: Newt & Rudy are skewing the stats.

I get the impression that Brownback does not actually treat women like Kleenex. Of course, he & Romney have their own “religious oddball” problems.

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**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2007, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-marriages-among-top-5-pub-candidates/394515/5 "2007-03-04T06:27:59Z")

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[QUOTE=DanBlather]  
New poll of top 5 pub candiates:  
Mitt Romney 21%  
Rudy Giuliani 17%.  
Sam Brownback 15%  
Newt Gingrich 14%  
John McCain, 12%,  
You can tell the Republican candidates are pro-family because they have 10 marriages among them. Jerks.  
[/QUOTE]  
I agree with your thesis: divorce is usually a bad thing, and reflects poorly on those who have had them.

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**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2007, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-marriages-among-top-5-pub-candidates/394515/6 "2007-03-04T06:51:51Z")

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[QUOTE=DanBlather]  
they have 10 marriages among them  
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But they’re all guys! I thought they were opposed to same-sex marriage.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2007, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-marriages-among-top-5-pub-candidates/394515/7 "2007-03-04T07:08:07Z")

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Why should straight people do all the suffering?

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2007, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-marriages-among-top-5-pub-candidates/394515/8 "2007-03-04T07:18:06Z")

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For those keeping score at home:

Mitt Romney - one marriage - married from 1968 to the present

Rudy Giuliani - three marriages - first marriage lasted from 1968-1982 and was annulled; second marriage from 1984-2000 ended in divorce; married current wife in 2003 (bonus adultery points for dating his second wife during his first marriage and his third wife during his second marriage)

Sam Brownback - one marriage

Newt Gingrich - three marriages - first marriage lasted from 1962-1980 and ended in divorce; second marriage lasted from 1981-1999 and ended in divorce; married current wife in 2000 (like Giuliani, he dated his second wife during his first marriage and his third wife during his second marriage)

John McCain - two marriages - first marriage lasted from 1965-1980 and ended in divorce; married his current wife in 1980 (dated his current wife during his first marriage)

And the other Republican candidates:

John Cox - one marriage

Duncan Hunter - one marriage - married since 1973

Mike Huckabee - one marriage - married since 1976 (trivia note - his wife’s maiden name was McCain)

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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\
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Having fucked multiple women will help them rape the nation. Lower inhibitions.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2007, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-marriages-among-top-5-pub-candidates/394515/10 "2007-03-04T07:44:48Z")

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What about Ron Paul? He & Carol seem to have been married for … 40-odd years?

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**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2007, 8:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-marriages-among-top-5-pub-candidates/394515/11 "2007-03-04T08:46:10Z")

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[QUOTE=DanBlather]  
You can tell the Republican candidates are pro-family because they have 10 marriages among them. Jerks.  
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Help me out here. Why are you pitting these people? Is it because they’ve remarried - if so, I don’t understand why that makes them bad people.

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**Author:** ![DanBlather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@DanBlather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DanBlather)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2007, 9:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-marriages-among-top-5-pub-candidates/394515/12 "2007-03-04T09:18:16Z")

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[QUOTE=Gary Kumquat]  
Help me out here. Why are you pitting these people? Is it because they’ve remarried - if so, I don’t understand why that makes them bad people.  
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I like that; they are not divorced, they’re re-married. Kind of like “pre-owned” cars. They didn’t cheat on their wives, they “recycled their affection”.

I’m pitting these clowns because they belong to a party that talks about traditional values and the importance of the family, but doesn’t back it up. It’s like the chicken hawks attacking Kerry and Max Cleland, both decorated war heroes, for being unpatriotic.

Here is a blurb on Gingrich from Wikipedia:

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> In 1962, Gingrich married, Jackie Battley, with whom he had two daughters. Anne Manning had an affair with Gingrich in 1977. She stated in a 1995 Vanity Fair article, “We had oral sex. He prefers that modus operandi because then he can say, ‘I never slept with her.’”
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> He divorced Jackie Battley in 1980, serving her with divorce papers and forcing her to negotiate the terms of their divorce settlement while she was in the hospital after cancer surgery. He refused to pay alimony and child support. Gingrich married Marianne Ginther in late 1981.[4] They divorced in 1999, reportedly because of Marianne’s dislike of Washington and Newt’s time away from home. Marianne was quoted in a 1996 article in Vanity Fair, stating “I don’t want him to be president and I don’t think he should be.” He divorced her. Newt later married Callista Bisek, a House aide 23 years his junior.

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> Jackie Battley…stated in a 1995 Vanity Fair article, “We had oral sex. He prefers that modus operandi because then he can say, 'I never slept with her.”

Hmm, “I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Ms Battley.” kinda rings a bell, can’t imagine conservatives having a problem with a president who would say something like that.  
Yeah, Newt for Prez!

CMC fnord!

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**Post date:** [March 4, 2007, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-marriages-among-top-5-pub-candidates/394515/14 "2007-03-04T14:27:39Z")

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[QUOTE=DanBlather]  
I like that; they are not divorced, they’re re-married. Kind of like “pre-owned” cars. They didn’t cheat on their wives, they “recycled their affection”  
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Uh, it’s fairly common usage. It might be, as you say, wishy-washy, but it’s common enough.

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**Author:** ![Eureka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/74df32/32.png) [@Eureka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eureka)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2007, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-marriages-among-top-5-pub-candidates/394515/15 "2007-03-04T16:43:30Z")

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> [@Little Nemo](#):
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> For those keeping score at home:

Thanks for the summary. I pay just enough attention to such things for it to have bugged me later.

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**Author:** ![Caridwen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c89c15/32.png) [@Caridwen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caridwen)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2007, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-marriages-among-top-5-pub-candidates/394515/16 "2007-03-04T17:10:57Z")

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It’s even better than that-

**McCain** from a Salon article

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> …But McCain was making bold career moves on the home front, hotly pursuing a 25-year-old blond from a wealthy Arizona family – while married. Carol, his wife at the time, had once been quite a babe herself apparently, until a near-fatal car accident (while her husband was in Vietnam) left her 4 inches shorter, overweight and on crutches. The couple had three children, whom Carol cared for alone while her husband was in Vietnamese prisons.
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> McCain’s strategy worked perfectly: After chasing Cindy Hensley around the country for six months, he closed the deal late in the year, had a divorce by February and was married to Hensley shortly thereafter. Bingo! McCain was a candidate for Congress by early 1982, his coffers full, his home in the proper Arizona district purchased…

[http://archive.salon.com/mwt/feature/2000/03/06/carol/print.html](http://archive.salon.com/mwt/feature/2000/03/06/carol/print.html)  
According to Donna Hanover,\*\* Giuliani\*\* attended public functions with his then girlfriend before his children were even told about the marriage breakup.

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**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2007, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-marriages-among-top-5-pub-candidates/394515/17 "2007-03-04T19:09:48Z")

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At least they end of marrying them, Dems like Bill Clinton just fucked em and left them. A later trip to the altar is family values. I bet Monica Lewinsky would have killed for a box of chocolates the next day.

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[QUOTE=Shagnasty]  
At least they end of marrying them, Dems like Bill Clinton just fucked em and left them.  
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I didn’t realize Republicans always married every woman they boinked.

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[QUOTE=Shagnasty]  
I bet Monica Lewinsky would have killed for a box of chocolates the next day.  
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Or at least some breath mints.

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[QUOTE=Colibri]  
Or at least some breath mints.  
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😃😃

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