# 10-minute-long rape scenes are inappropriate workplace viewing.
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-minute-long-rape-scenes-are-inappropriate-workplace-viewing/473144
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share
**Created:** [November 17, 2008, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-minute-long-rape-scenes-are-inappropriate-workplace-viewing/473144 "2008-11-17T17:16:58Z")
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### Author:  [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2008, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-minute-long-rape-scenes-are-inappropriate-workplace-viewing/473144/81 "2008-11-19T14:32:06Z")
> [@LouisB](#):
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> I had never heard of Monica Bellucci but now I have and I’ve seen pictures of her and there is, indeed, a beneficent God and I’ve given thanks. If a sacrifice is required, I’ll do that, too.
One of my uncles has been known to call Sofia Loren, Claudia Cardinale and Monica Bellucci the Holy Italian Trinity. We asked him what is Ornella Muti suppossed to be, mincemeat?
Wouldn’t googling for “Monica Bellucci naked” count as “looking for pr0n” (which was explicitly forbidden)?
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### Author:  [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2008, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-minute-long-rape-scenes-are-inappropriate-workplace-viewing/473144/82 "2008-11-19T15:36:59Z")
> [@Nava](#):
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> One of my uncles has been known to call Sofia Loren, Claudia Cardinale and Monica Bellucci the Holy Italian Trinity. We asked him what is Ornella Muti suppossed to be, mincemeat?
> Wouldn’t googling for “Monica Bellucci naked” count as “looking for pr0n” (which was explicitly forbidden)?
Probably, but I don’t care.
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### Author:  [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2008, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-minute-long-rape-scenes-are-inappropriate-workplace-viewing/473144/83 "2008-11-19T20:23:22Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> It’s actually a good movie. But it should only be watched on DVD so you can skip right over that scene.
So did she have a hot butt? Well?🙂
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### Author:  [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2008, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-minute-long-rape-scenes-are-inappropriate-workplace-viewing/473144/84 "2008-11-19T20:26:32Z")
> [@Omegaman](#):
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> So did she have a hot butt? Well?🙂
Though I turned off the monitor before that could have been determined from the clip, I assure you that no words are adequate to describe Monica Bellucci’s posterior. Callipygian is the merest hint.
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### Author:  [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2008, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-minute-long-rape-scenes-are-inappropriate-workplace-viewing/473144/85 "2008-11-19T21:21:34Z")
> [@Chef\_Troy](#):
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> Instead of begging forgiveness and agreeing to whatever they wanted, this guy went #3 in a big way, claiming they violated HIS privacy by looking at what he had saved in his personal folder on the network. (That’s right, he had these files ON THE NETWORK.) He wound up getting fired because he would NOT back down.
That reminds me of my type 3 story. I used to work at a company that built and serviced web-based kiosks. We had a Network Operation Center that had a full 3 shifts. Obviously not too many problems occur at 2am, but there was somebody there just in case. Not content to download skeevy stuff, which was tolerated as long as no one complained, – after all, one of my jobs was to implement a filter for the kiosks, and the only way to test the filter was to attempt to go to questionable sites, so it wasn’t unusual to see stuff on someone’s monitor – this guy started calling 976 numbers, which got attention because it cost the company money.
The guy’s manager went to him with the phone records and told him to knock it off. Just a verbal warning to not do it again. The guy denies doing it. Umm… who else was in the NOC at 2am? You know, the room that you need to swipe your individually trackable badge to get into? “It wasn’t me”.
So management turns on call recording (the “this call may be monitored for training purposes and quality assurance” recording) permanently. Sure enough, they get his voice on the next set of 976 calls. First he denies it again, then on hearing the incriminating recording, goes ballistic screaming about invasion of privacy, fascist police states controlled by corporate masters (dude, we’re a startup with about 90 employees), and sexophobic prudes who must be a bunch of closeted faggots cause we object to him talking to sexy women. Needless to say, he was fired.
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### Author:  [@Pullet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pullet)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2008, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-minute-long-rape-scenes-are-inappropriate-workplace-viewing/473144/86 "2008-11-19T22:22:35Z")
Can someone explain this, from the Wikipedia synopsis of _[The Baby of Macon](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Baby_of_Macon)_
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> The Bishop sentences her to death, but because she is still a virgin, she cannot be killed outright. The Daughter is instead sentenced to be raped 208 times.
If I lost the ability to call unicorns _and_ invulerability lo those many years ago, I’m going to be pissed.
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### Author:  [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2008, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-minute-long-rape-scenes-are-inappropriate-workplace-viewing/473144/87 "2008-11-19T22:27:34Z")
> [@Pullet](#):
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> Can someone explain this, from the Wikipedia synopsis of _[The Baby of Macon](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Baby_of_Macon)_
> If I lost the ability to call unicorns _and_ invulerability lo those many years ago, I’m going to be pissed.
I simply refuse to watch the movie, but it makes an insane kind of sense. He wants her dead. He can’t execute a virgin. If he sentences her to be raped, then once that’s done he no longer has any right to punish her further. He’s a sexually frustrated dick whose not allowed to use the eponymous organ. So he gives her a punishment (a) is technically not captial punishment, but (b) will surely kill her, and (c) he’ll easily be able to find volunteers to carry out, and, in addition, (d) will provide him more mastubatory fodder than a warehouse of _Hustlers_.
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### Author:  [@Pullet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pullet)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2008, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-minute-long-rape-scenes-are-inappropriate-workplace-viewing/473144/88 "2008-11-19T22:38:52Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> I simply refuse to watch the movie, but it makes an insane kind of sense. He wants her dead. He can’t execute a virgin. If he sentences her to be raped, then once that’s done he no longer has any right to punish her further. He’s a sexually frustrated dick whose not allowed to use the eponymous organ. So he gives her a punishment (a) is technically not captial punishment, but (b) will surely kill her, and (c) he’ll easily be able to find volunteers to carry out, and, in addition, (d) will provide him more mastubatory fodder than a warehouse of _Hustlers_.
See, I get sentencing her to be raped to death (I’ve watched far too much (1) hentai), but not the “can’t execute a virgin” part. Did I miss the part of the Beatitudes where virgins get a free pass to heaven, even if they choke to death on the bones of infants?
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### Author:  [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2008, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-minute-long-rape-scenes-are-inappropriate-workplace-viewing/473144/89 "2008-11-19T22:45:41Z")
> [@Pullet](#):
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> See, I get sentencing her to be raped to death (I’ve watched far too much (1) hentai), but not the “can’t execute a virgin” part. Did I miss the part of the Beatitudes where virgins get a free pass to heaven, even if they choke to death on the bones of infants?
It’s in Romans, actually, 7th chapter. Or rather was before my last time travel trip, during which I changed history so that a certain carpenter from Nazarath died in his early 30s, as opposed to the original history, in which he lived to marry an ex-kedeshah, lead an improbably-successful rebellion against Rome, and begin a 2000-year-long dynasty of love, peace, happiness, and whatnot.
Admitttedly, I might have done otherwise if I’d realized that this would also result in \*Firefly \*being cancelled midway through one season.
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### Author:  [@neutron\_star](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neutron_star)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2008, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-minute-long-rape-scenes-are-inappropriate-workplace-viewing/473144/90 "2008-11-19T22:46:55Z")
> [@Hostile\_Dialect](#):
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> I’m thinking the employee doth protest too much. His first response was “It’s not porn”? Well, that tells you what he _thought_ of it as, doesn’t it?
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> ETA: And I’m sure there are a lot of legitimate reasons to be interested in that specific clip. **OpalCat** ’s is one, and there’s also interest from the perspective of a film student or film buff, comparing it with similar depictions of violence in other films/media, and it may indeed relate to some peoples’ (rather odd) work projects. You can even be interested in it just because it’s edgy and controversial and you want to test/prove your mettle. But the fact that his first response was “It’s not porn!” tells me that he saw it as porn,
I think you’re reading too far into something that you didn’t even hear.
At a job a few years ago, a boss (for whom English was a second language, so he wasn’t familiar with many common phrases - especially not ones popular 35 years ago) walked in on me reading the Straight Dope. My first response? “Dope doesn’t mean drugs!”
Does that mean that I secretly _thought_ I was looking at a drug-related website?
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### Author:  [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2008, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-minute-long-rape-scenes-are-inappropriate-workplace-viewing/473144/91 "2008-11-19T22:51:44Z")
> [@neutron\_star](#):
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> I think you’re reading too far into something that you didn’t even hear.
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> At a job a few years ago, a boss (for whom English was a second language, so he wasn’t familiar with many common phrases - especially not ones popular 35 years ago) walked in on me reading the Straight Dope. My first response? “Dope doesn’t mean drugs!”
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> Does that mean that I secretly _thought_ I was looking at a drug-related website?
But Captain Nitwit has to know it was inappropriate. There’s nudity in the scene, and that’s part of our definition of inappropriate for workplace viewing. By saying “it’s not porn,” he was trying to restrict the definition of “inappropriate” to “intentional pornography.” I agree that _Irreversible_ is not the latter.
Also (and I don’t think I’ve mentioned this), his cubicle neighbors asked him to stop before coming to me.
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### Author:  [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2008, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-minute-long-rape-scenes-are-inappropriate-workplace-viewing/473144/92 "2008-11-19T23:21:49Z")
> [@Chimera](#):
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> There are generally three kinds of people in this world, and you can tell a lot about their character here;
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> 1\> Would never think to do this. The best kind of person.
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> 2\> When caught doing something wrong, is genuinely apologetic and does not repeat the behavior.
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> 3\> When caught, tries to turn the blame around or whine about it. Avoid these people.
Oh yeah, I dealt with a #3 today. We’ll call her Airhead to protect the guilty.
So, the person supervising her told me that there was a problem with Airhead’s timesheet (we have an electronic program creatively named “Timesheet” and each employee fills it out themselves) and Airhead couldn’t figure it out. Her supervisor was mainly concerned because it said Airhead worked over 90 hours the past week and a half and that’s incredibly impossible considering the woman only worked M-F last week. So I promised to help Airhead sort it out.
I sat down with Airhead and tried to get her to scroll over to this week’s hours. Tried, I say, because I asked her to do so three times, and each time she said “wait” and started babbling about how a lot of people helped her with the program and that must be how it got ballsed up. Just before I took the mouse from her, she finally did as I asked on the 4th request. The problem was immediately apparent: somehow she’d entered in 45 minutes of work time for Saturday, and 42 hours for Sunday. :eek:
It took **another five minutes** during which I tried hard not to strangle her, because instead of deleting the hours as requested, she kept on with her litany of reasons why it must have been someone helping her’s fault, not her own until I gave up and deleted the hours for her. Even as I was walking away, she was still insisting that it couldn’t possibly be her fault :mad::rolleyes:
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### Author:  [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2008, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-minute-long-rape-scenes-are-inappropriate-workplace-viewing/473144/93 "2008-11-19T23:22:18Z")
Oh, come on. The comparison isn’t even close. The Straight Dope obviously has nothing to do with drugs (any more than it has to do with, say, foreskin replacement or methods of intimidating Jehovah’s Witnesses), while the only difference between a sex scene and a porn clip is artistic merit–which is, in fact, controversial in the case of this movie. And plenty of people pay porn sites to collect sex scenes from movies and put them in one place as “celebrity porn”. The guy wasn’t visiting a website called “The Straight Screw”, he was watching a famously controversial and violent ten-minute-long rape scene with the volume on high.
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### Author:  [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2008, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-minute-long-rape-scenes-are-inappropriate-workplace-viewing/473144/94 "2008-11-19T23:22:32Z")
> [@Chimera](#):
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> But the moral here is that my Idiot Passenger got pissy with me and held the entire thing against me because I was repeatedly telling him to close the passenger door on my car in the face of an impending threat. At no point was there any apology or recognition that just maybe, he was responsible here.
Wow. I wonder if there’s any Asperger’s in the mix there.
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### Author:  [@Pullet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pullet)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2008, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-minute-long-rape-scenes-are-inappropriate-workplace-viewing/473144/95 "2008-11-20T00:18:38Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> Admitttedly, I might have done otherwise if I’d realized that this would also result in \*Firefly \*being cancelled midway through one season.
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### Author:  [@Astroboy14](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astroboy14)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2008, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-minute-long-rape-scenes-are-inappropriate-workplace-viewing/473144/96 "2008-11-20T01:18:54Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> I’m going to talk about sites like SDMB as well.
**Sticks fingers in ears** I can’t hear you!! LALALALALALALALALALALALALALALA!
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### Author:  [@Sunrazor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunrazor)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2008, 8:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-minute-long-rape-scenes-are-inappropriate-workplace-viewing/473144/97 "2008-11-20T08:10:26Z")
It’s late, I can’t sleep, I’m goofing off on da’ Dope, decided to see how easy it would be to find that scene. Start to Google “Monica Bellucci” and “Monica Bellucci rape” comes up under the text box, about sixth or seventh one down.
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### Author:  [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2008, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-minute-long-rape-scenes-are-inappropriate-workplace-viewing/473144/98 "2008-11-20T11:31:54Z")
**Originally posted by Bayard:
I’ve never seen A Clockwork Orange, mostly because I have heard that it includes a particularly disturbing rape scene.** My Darling Marcie saw that movie before she and I met; the rape scene distressed her terribly. I might even say it was traumatic for her.
I read the book long before I saw the movie; the book handled the rape scene as if it were just another night out for the guys. The movie expanded on the rape, to say the least and while it was disturbing in the book, it was very damn disturbing in the movie. But I still think the movie is worth seeing and the book is worth reading.
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### Author:  [@neutron\_star](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neutron_star)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2008, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-minute-long-rape-scenes-are-inappropriate-workplace-viewing/473144/99 "2008-11-20T12:20:49Z")
> [@Hostile\_Dialect](#):
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> Oh, come on. The comparison isn’t even close. The Straight Dope obviously has nothing to do with drugs (any more than it has to do with, say, foreskin replacement or methods of intimidating Jehovah’s Witnesses), while the only difference between a sex scene and a porn clip is artistic merit–which is, in fact, controversial in the case of this movie. And plenty of people pay porn sites to collect sex scenes from movies and put them in one place as “celebrity porn”. The guy wasn’t visiting a website called “The Straight Screw”, he was watching a famously controversial and violent ten-minute-long rape scene with the volume on high.
That said, you have no idea what was going through his head, and I can see the “that isn’t porn” comment being uttered pretty damn quickly by someone who was watching it for its artistic value or whatever, not neccessarily because of some hidden emotion, but because he knows that’s what it might look like to others, and he knows that the rules forbid it.
Obviously what he did was highly inappropriate. I’m not agruing that. I’m just saying that you can’t definitively judge his intent quite so easily. You don’t know what he was thinking (granted, probably not much) any more than I do.
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### Author:  [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2008, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-minute-long-rape-scenes-are-inappropriate-workplace-viewing/473144/100 "2008-11-20T14:11:32Z")
In case someone thinks Monica gets naked in all her films, she was totally clothed as Mary Magdalene in The Passion of the Christ.
However, the first time I saw her was as one of the Three Vampire Brides in Coppola’s Dracula. Very topless. Yay!
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