# 10-minute-long rape scenes are inappropriate workplace viewing.
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-minute-long-rape-scenes-are-inappropriate-workplace-viewing/473144
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share
**Created:** [November 17, 2008, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-minute-long-rape-scenes-are-inappropriate-workplace-viewing/473144 "2008-11-17T17:16:58Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2008, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-minute-long-rape-scenes-are-inappropriate-workplace-viewing/473144/101 "2008-11-20T15:18:07Z")
> [@FriarTed](#):
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> In case someone thinks Monica gets naked in all her films, she was totally clothed as Mary Magdalene in The Passion of the Christ.
That’s only in the version that exists in the new timeline. “Before” my time travel trip to avert two millenia of world-wide Christian hegemony and the resultant, nauseating dominance of peace, love, and kindness, she was naked in pretty much every scene of that movie (as was Natalie Portman, who played Jesus.)
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### Author:  [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2008, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-minute-long-rape-scenes-are-inappropriate-workplace-viewing/473144/102 "2008-11-20T15:25:26Z")
> [@Chimera](#):
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> 1\> Would never think to do this. The best kind of person.
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> 2\> When caught doing something wrong, is genuinely apologetic and does not repeat the behavior.
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> 3\> When caught, tries to turn the blame around or whine about it. Avoid these people.
There is a number 4 – or perhaps it’s simply an extreme case of number 3: denials even in the face of overwhelming evidence.
I don’t recall exactly where I heard this story – lawyers trading war stories, most likely – but the essentials that gave rise to a divorce action have stuck with me.
Guy gets home early from work one day, unexpectedly. Sees his wife’s car and a unknown convertible in the driveway. He heads upstairs only to find the bedroom door locked. He rattles the doorknob, surprised to find it closed, and starts yelling. Finally he puts a shoulder to the door and breaks it open. Wife’s sitting calmly at her dresser brushing her hair. “Oh, you’re home early!” she says.
“What’s going on? Why was the door locked?”
“It wasn’t locked,” she says.
Guy notices shower is damp, and notices wife glancing nervously at the closet. So he goes over to the closet and opens it up, and a bare-chested man practically explodes out of the door, knocking hubby over. Man runs downstairs holding shirt and shoes in his hands. Husband gives chase; man leaps into convertible and roars away. Husband comes back upstairs, looks at his wife, and says, “OK. Who’s the guy?”
“What guy?”
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### Author:  [@hotflungwok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotflungwok)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2008, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-minute-long-rape-scenes-are-inappropriate-workplace-viewing/473144/103 "2008-11-20T15:37:42Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> That’s only in the version that exists in the new timeline. “Before” my time travel trip to avert two millenia of world-wide Christian hegemony and the resultant, nauseating dominance of peace, love, and kindness, she was naked in pretty much every scene of that movie (as was Natalie Portman, who played Jesus.)
Let me get this straight, you prevented us from seeing Natalie Portman and Monica Belluci nekkid in the same movie?
:(:mad: Get the torches and pitchforks.
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### Author:  [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2008, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-minute-long-rape-scenes-are-inappropriate-workplace-viewing/473144/104 "2008-11-20T17:36:56Z")
> [@hotflungwok](#):
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> Let me get this straight, you prevented us from seeing Natalie Portman and Monica Belluci nekkid in the same movie?
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> :(:mad: Get the torches and pitchforks.
IT WAS AN ACCIDENT!!
Look, in the prior timeline, there had been a Holy Christian Commonwealth for the last 2000 years, and they’d spread all over the world by the twelfth century. We all had flying cars and robot butlers, and they discovered a cure for AIDS in 1978, and they’d genetically-modified lettuce so that it tasted like chocolate, and tobacco so that it not only was non-carcinogenic but increased penis size by about 34% with regular use, and there hadn’t been a war since the invasion of Normany (which went somewhat differently), and you could buy beer in the coke machines.
But there was no coffee. ANYWHERE.
Trust me, you’re better off. We all are.
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### Author:  [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2008, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-minute-long-rape-scenes-are-inappropriate-workplace-viewing/473144/105 "2008-11-20T21:54:38Z")
> [@neutron star](#):
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> That said, you have no idea what was going through his head
:dubious: I think I can guess.
> [@neutron star](#):
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> and I can see the “that isn’t porn” comment being uttered pretty damn quickly by someone who was watching it for its artistic value or whatever, not neccessarily because of some hidden emotion, but because he knows that’s what it might look like to others, and he knows that the rules forbid it.
But he wasn’t arguing that it wasn’t porn because it had artistic merit; he was arguing that it wasn’t porn because it only showed one boob and half a butt or something. He was obviously trying to get around the porn “rules”, meaning that he saw it as porn. Justifiable porn, according to his own bizarre rationalization, but porn nonetheless. Besides, it was distressing his coworkers, who had already asked him to stop watching it. That should be enough. If you’re watching a rape scene at work for some reason, and people are asking you to please stop because it greatly bothers them, you should stop, even if rape scenes are allowed. This is office work, not Cannes.
> [@Skald the Rhymer](#):
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> Look, in the prior timeline, there had been a Holy Christian Commonwealth for the last 2000 years, and they’d spread all over the world by the twelfth century. We all had flying cars and robot butlers, and they discovered a cure for AIDS in 1978, and they’d genetically-modified lettuce so that it tasted like chocolate, and tobacco so that it not only was non-carcinogenic but increased penis size by about 34% with regular use, and there hadn’t been a war since the invasion of Normany (which went somewhat differently), and you could buy beer in the coke machines.
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> But there was no coffee. ANYWHERE.
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> Trust me, you’re better off. We all are.
I don’t drink coffee anyway. Consider my support of your despotic world regime rescinded.
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### Author:  [@gravitycrash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gravitycrash)
#### Post date: [November 21, 2008, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-minute-long-rape-scenes-are-inappropriate-workplace-viewing/473144/106 "2008-11-21T01:03:35Z")
> [@neutron\_star](#):
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> That said, you have no idea what was going through his head, and I can see the “that isn’t porn” comment being uttered pretty damn quickly by someone who was watching it for its artistic value or whatever, not neccessarily because of some hidden emotion, but because he knows that’s what it might look like to others, and he knows that the rules forbid it.
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> Obviously what he did was highly inappropriate. I’m not agruing that. I’m just saying that you can’t definitively judge his intent quite so easily. You don’t know what he was thinking (granted, probably not much) any more than I do.
That was by far the most violent rape scene I have ever seen. If this guy doesn’t see a problem looking at this at work…just wow.
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### Author:  [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)
#### Post date: [November 21, 2008, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-minute-long-rape-scenes-are-inappropriate-workplace-viewing/473144/107 "2008-11-21T01:40:14Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> IT WAS AN ACCIDENT!!
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> Look, in the prior timeline, there had been a Holy Christian Commonwealth for the last 2000 years, and they’d spread all over the world by the twelfth century. We all had flying cars and robot butlers, and they discovered a cure for AIDS in 1978, and they’d genetically-modified lettuce so that it tasted like chocolate, and tobacco so that it not only was non-carcinogenic but increased penis size by about 34% with regular use, and there hadn’t been a war since the invasion of Normany (which went somewhat differently), and you could buy beer in the coke machines.
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> But there was no coffee. ANYWHERE.
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> Trust me, you’re better off. We all are.
I don’t drink coffee, and I like lettuce in my sandwiches to taste like lettuce. On the other hand, I can’t stand the smell of beer. I may have to be a grumbling minion when you take over.
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### Author:  [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)
#### Post date: [November 21, 2008, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-minute-long-rape-scenes-are-inappropriate-workplace-viewing/473144/108 "2008-11-21T03:34:49Z")
> [@Projammer](#):
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> Might go ahead and suggest to IT that they start looking into filtering software. While your people need access to client sites, they don’t need bigoltitties and [whosyourllama.com](http://whosyourllama.com). Filtering software should be able to flag searches for ‘naked’ and other potentially questionable terms.
Well, naked options are common in the brokerage industry!
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### Author:  [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)
#### Post date: [November 21, 2008, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-minute-long-rape-scenes-are-inappropriate-workplace-viewing/473144/109 "2008-11-21T15:19:45Z")
> [@Hostile\_Dialect](#):
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> :dubious: I think I can guess.
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> But he wasn’t arguing that it wasn’t porn because it had artistic merit; he was arguing that it wasn’t porn because it only showed one boob and half a butt or something. He was obviously trying to get around the porn “rules”, meaning that he saw it as porn. Justifiable porn, according to his own bizarre rationalization, but porn nonetheless. Besides, it was distressing his coworkers, who had already asked him to stop watching it. That should be enough. If you’re watching a rape scene at work for some reason, and people are asking you to please stop because it greatly bothers them, you should stop, even if rape scenes are allowed. This is office work, not Cannes.
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> I don’t drink coffee anyway. Consider my support of your despotic world regime rescinded.
NOW you don’t. In the prior time-line you were a major addict, and Pope Hannigan’s outlawing of it led to your dying in a hail of gunfire when you tried to knock over a dildo store. Every single Doper wept for days, and y’all all demanded that I do something to fix it. I kind of have the sense everybody meant “go back in time to 5 minutes before the robbery and pluck Hostile Dialect out of harm’s way,” but that is not my fault.
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### Author:  [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2008, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-minute-long-rape-scenes-are-inappropriate-workplace-viewing/473144/110 "2008-11-22T00:13:33Z")
> [@Skald the Rhymer](#):
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> In the prior time-line you were a major addict, and Pope Hannigan’s outlawing of it led to your dying in a hail of gunfire when you tried to knock over a dildo store.
Actually, I am a recovering caffeine addict in _this_ timeline and it _did_ almost kill me. I’m not seeing a big difference.
> [@Skald the Rhymer](#):
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> Every single Doper wept for days, and y’all all demanded that I do something to fix it.
Now, I _know_ that’s not true. 😃 I’ve read a certain blog…
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### Author:  [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2008, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-minute-long-rape-scenes-are-inappropriate-workplace-viewing/473144/111 "2008-11-22T15:24:35Z")
> [@Hostile\_Dialect](#):
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> Actually, I am a recovering caffeine addict in _this_ timeline and it _did_ almost kill me. I’m not seeing a big difference.
You’re significantly less dead.
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> Now, I _know_ that’s not true. 😃 I’ve read a certain blog…
It’s not my fault your popularity has been lessened in this new reality.
Okay, that’s not true. I did have that clone of you commit..
Well, never mind.
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### Author:  [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2008, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-minute-long-rape-scenes-are-inappropriate-workplace-viewing/473144/112 "2008-11-22T18:30:36Z")
> [@gravitycrash](#):
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> That was by far the most violent rape scene I have ever seen. If this guy doesn’t see a problem looking at this at work…just wow.
Yeah, pretty nasty. I don’t speak French well enough to understand the dialog - anybody know what is being said? Or do I want to know?
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### Author:  [@sjc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sjc)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2008, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-minute-long-rape-scenes-are-inappropriate-workplace-viewing/473144/113 "2008-11-22T20:09:56Z")
> [@Shodan](#):
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> Yeah, pretty nasty. I don’t speak French well enough to understand the dialog - anybody know what is being said? Or do I want to know?
Italian, no?
I understand Italian well enough, but I’m not sure I want to watch that scene.
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### Author:  [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2008, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-minute-long-rape-scenes-are-inappropriate-workplace-viewing/473144/114 "2008-11-22T20:45:44Z")
> [@sjc](#):
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> Italian, no?
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> I understand Italian well enough, but I’m not sure I want to watch that scene.
Is it Italian? No wonder I didn’t catch a word. Only saw the clip; don’t know anything about the movie.
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### Author:  [@sjc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sjc)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2008, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-minute-long-rape-scenes-are-inappropriate-workplace-viewing/473144/115 "2008-11-22T21:08:51Z")
Sorry, I just watched the beginning of the scene to check and found that it was mostly French (which I don’t really understand). I only watched until the point that he threw her down.
When she screams “aiuto” that’s Italian, but the rest appears to be French. Up to the point I watched I’d say that he probably doesn’t say anything too different from what you’d expect, though I can’t say for sure. It sure sounds like she’s saying “let me go” over and over again.
Anyway, I’m not planning on spending more time trying to analyze this. Oh, except to say that I should have realized from the title “Irreversible” that it wasn’t Italian.
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### Author:  [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2008, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-minute-long-rape-scenes-are-inappropriate-workplace-viewing/473144/116 "2008-11-22T21:30:33Z")
> [@Shodan](#):
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> Yeah, pretty nasty. I don’t speak French well enough to understand the dialog - anybody know what is being said? Or do I want to know?
She’s speaking Italian, not French. Basically she screams Aiuto, which means help, and begs for mercy; the rapist, who is otherwise gay, comments that while he usually prefers boys he will settle for her. He threatens to cut her, he forces her to submit, he mocks her for her beauty and promises to make her ugly, hence the kicking.
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### Author:  [@iamthewalrus\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamthewalrus_3)
#### Post date: [November 23, 2008, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-minute-long-rape-scenes-are-inappropriate-workplace-viewing/473144/117 "2008-11-23T17:29:31Z")
> [@elfkin477](#):
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> The problem was immediately apparent: somehow she’d entered in 45 minutes of work time for Saturday, and 42 hours for Sunday. :eek:
You have to admit that it’s at least partly the fault of whatever idiot wrote a timesheet program that allows you to input more than 24 hours of work on a given day.
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### Author:  [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)
#### Post date: [November 23, 2008, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-minute-long-rape-scenes-are-inappropriate-workplace-viewing/473144/118 "2008-11-23T19:09:43Z")
> [@Bricker](#):
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> There is a number 4 – or perhaps it’s simply an extreme case of number 3: denials even in the face of overwhelming evidence.
Nah, just a #3 who knows how to manipulate the weak.
I mean, how often have you seen that sort of thing in your life? I see it all the time. People will just give up in the face of a stone wall of opposition, even when they’re absolutely 100% right, and move on. Thus these people go through life learning that if they just keep insisting that Blue is Five and tastes like B flat, and they weren’t doing cocaine even though you +saw+ them snorting it and they STILL have a bunch of white powder under their nose…their parent, teacher, boss, lover, friend, whoever will give up the fight and allow them to get away with their douchebaggery.
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### Author:  [@sjc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sjc)
#### Post date: [November 23, 2008, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-minute-long-rape-scenes-are-inappropriate-workplace-viewing/473144/119 "2008-11-23T21:30:22Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> She’s speaking Italian, not French. Basically she screams Aiuto, which means help, and begs for mercy; the rapist, who is otherwise gay, comments that while he usually prefers boys he will settle for her. He threatens to cut her, he forces her to submit, he mocks her for her beauty and promises to make her ugly, hence the kicking.
Double huh. I other than the “aiuto” I didn’t notice that she was speaking Italian. But I’ll admit I may have missed it.
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### Author:  [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)
#### Post date: [November 23, 2008, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-minute-long-rape-scenes-are-inappropriate-workplace-viewing/473144/120 "2008-11-23T21:39:39Z")
> [@sjc](#):
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> Double huh. I other than the “aiuto” I didn’t notice that she was speaking Italian. But I’ll admit I may have missed it.
I think she was going back and forth. But I may be mis-ascribing the things she said so quickly that I could not understand.
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