# 10 Musicians You Don't Like From The 60s? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 3, 2019, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-musicians-you-dont-like-from-the-60s/833433 "2019-05-03T19:29:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2019, 10:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-musicians-you-dont-like-from-the-60s/833433/81 "2019-05-07T10:24:54Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > Honestly, I like many more Monkees songs than Doors songs. I think the only Doors songs I really enjoy are “Peace Frog” and “Five To One.” > > But, yeah, I’m not sure I have anything really strong against Jim Morrison, as per this thread’s title. I mean, he seems like a pretentious douche to me, but I never met him and don’t know that to be a fact. And with the Monkees, they all seemed rather approachable and pleasant, no? Davy Jones was said to be a douchebag. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2019, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-musicians-you-dont-like-from-the-60s/833433/82 "2019-05-07T13:53:41Z")
> [@Tamerlane](#): > > This 2013 interview is an [instant classic](https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/qa-ginger-baker-on-why-the-rolling-stones-are-not-good-musicians-86521/) :p. In person he must be just about the most insufferably difficult person in the world, especially if you are a journalist. But at a distance his “it-goes-to-11” curmudgeonliness is hilarious. Wow, Baker is a real peach. How in the world is he married? :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2019, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-musicians-you-dont-like-from-the-60s/833433/83 "2019-05-07T14:15:50Z")
The power of money and fame cannot be over-emphasize. I understand Bob Dylan has always been who he is, but that’s part of his person. If I ever met him, I’m not sure I would like him. ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2019, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-musicians-you-dont-like-from-the-60s/833433/84 "2019-05-07T14:40:53Z")
> [@Dale\_Sams](#): > > Melanie seems sweet. Melanie. She was on my old man’s eclectic playlist and part of the soundtrack of my childhood (along with Leon Redbone and Leadbelly and Townes Van Zandt and Herb Alpert & his Marijuana Grass). I may as well have spent the 60s-70s on a different planet because I never meet anyone even familiar with the names, my age or even older. So with that, a [Melanie cover](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbQ43sFDQTM), just for you! You’re welcome. ---
**Author:** ![xizor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xizor/32/102_2.png) [@xizor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xizor)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2019, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-musicians-you-dont-like-from-the-60s/833433/85 "2019-05-07T14:50:06Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Got any nasty anecdotes about Tommy and Dickie Smothers? If not, two is a good start… I remember reading on the JREF website that Tommy is a huge believer in paranormal woo crap, and that he is friends with Uri Geller. As for Jim Morrison, I always imagined that, had he lived, his personal and career arc would be very similar to Axl Rose’s. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2019, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-musicians-you-dont-like-from-the-60s/833433/86 "2019-05-07T14:59:00Z")
Dickie Smothers used to race Formula One cars. I find that a lot weirder that the paranormal woo crap. ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2019, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-musicians-you-dont-like-from-the-60s/833433/87 "2019-05-07T16:07:06Z")
Deep Purple weren’t successful until the early 70s but they were formed in’68 so I must mention Richie Blackmore. What a twat. I saw a “where are they now” type of show that I think was done recently. He seemed the most miserable, self aggrandizing prick, with nothing good to say about anyone. He’s still got that ridiculous shag hairdo that he now slathers with shoe black and does some kind of . . musical theatre(?) with his much younger wife. Not that couples with large age differences is grounds for disdain or anything, but he just seems so old and cranky and unaware how he comes off and she “seems” (can’t really tell by the short time she was featured) like a (beautiful) flake. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2019, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-musicians-you-dont-like-from-the-60s/833433/88 "2019-05-07T16:58:55Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > The Doors, as well. I’m just sick and tired of it through force-feeding from “classic rock” radio stations. > > I also love early The Who, but the next time I hear **Who’s Next** I’m going the jam it up the DJ’s bunghole. The LP, not the CD. Good choice - the LP will break up into shards on the way in. :eek: 😃 Seriously, that’s why I stopped listening to classic rock stations. _Who’s Next_ is a fucking _awesome_ record, but I found myself pushing the button to change the station whenever a song from that album came on. And that was just one example of many. ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2019, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-musicians-you-dont-like-from-the-60s/833433/89 "2019-05-07T17:03:10Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > _Who’s Next_ is a fucking _awesome_ record, but… The shortened version of _Won’t Get Fooled_ makes me want to die. The Who had a few songs of real consequence that also never age. It hurts my soul to hear one chopped up because commercialism. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2019, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-musicians-you-dont-like-from-the-60s/833433/90 "2019-05-07T17:08:26Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > So, not to be a nudge or a phoney moderator, but the OP was asking about disliking musicians personally, not whether you liked their music. Tru dat. But I’m gonna do the music part anyway, because frankly I’ve never learned much about musicians’ personalities - it just isn’t important to me. Also, before I opened the thread, I figured I’d come up with a list before I was influenced by others’. So I Googled the Billboard Top 100 songs of 1966-1969, and I’ve got a bunch of names that have mostly been overlooked here: Tom Jones Bobby Goldsboro Gary Puckett Bee Gees Barry Sadler Engelbert Humperdinck Frankie Valli Lou Christie Oliver Bobby Vee FWIW, I agree with the prevailing sentiments about David Crosby: I figured out back in 1971 that if a CSN or CSN&Y song really dragged, it was almost surely written by Crosby: “Almost Cut My Hair,” “Triad,” “Long Time Gone” - zzzzz. But the guys on my list make Crosby look good. ---
**Author:** ![Rough\_Draft](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/76d3ee/32.png) [@Rough\_Draft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rough_Draft)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2019, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-musicians-you-dont-like-from-the-60s/833433/91 "2019-05-07T17:12:36Z")
> [@kunilou](#): > > And if George Harrison is to be believed, McCartney was just as big an asshole. I never heard this, and it sounds interesting. Can somebody direct me to where I can read about it? ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2019, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-musicians-you-dont-like-from-the-60s/833433/92 "2019-05-07T17:53:29Z")
> [@Rough\_Draft](#): > > I never heard this, and it sounds interesting. Can somebody direct me to where I can read about it? I don’t know for sure, but it may be about the tension between McCartney and Harrison in the studio. From _All The Songs: The Story Behind Every Beatles Release_: > [@](#): > > The production of Sgt. Pepper must not have been easy for George. Paul assumed more and more dominance over the group and he became more authoritarian. He took away many guitar solos from George, too often reducing his participation to shaking maracas. and (describing the recording of the song “Sgt Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band”): > [@](#): > > George then added solo guitar. After numerous failed attempts, Paul grabbed the guitar with no consideration for poor George and performed a superb solo And here’s Paul, looking back on those years (quoted in _Conversations with McCartney_): > [@](#): > > I got on George’s wick, particularly. There’d been a few little things. The kind of thing that happened would be like in ‘Hey Jude’ [made the previous summer]. I had the idea to make it very simple and build towards the end. So I wanted, ‘Hey Jude, don’t make it bad, duh-duh-duh,’ just very simple. > > George, when we were rehearsing it, was going ‘Hey Jude,’ [big guitar riff] dang-diddle-da-da, ‘don’t make it bad,’ dang-diddle-da-da … ‘George, do us a favour, man. Don’t play it. We’ll have a solo later or something, but don’t answer every phrase, it’s gonna get boring very soon.’ [Sullen] ‘OK. Fuckin’ won’t do it then.’ It was getting like that. > > Locked horns. Young males was what it was. Now, knowing animals, stallions and rams, I know they’re all at it. If they come of age, locked horns, it’s what they do… > > So there we were, mature males locking horns. And George, one day [10 January 1969] he just wasn’t there after lunch. It was like: ‘Mee-ting! Shit, what have we done?’ ‘Well, he’s real offended man, you’ve been over the top, bossing him around, and he’s just as important as you are.’ This is true, I needed telling off, I suppose. ---
**Author:** ![Royal\_Nonesutch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecb155/32.png) [@Royal\_Nonesutch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Royal_Nonesutch)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2019, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-musicians-you-dont-like-from-the-60s/833433/93 "2019-05-07T18:04:00Z")
For a vain, egotistical, arrogant piece of shit like Paul McCartney to be only the SECOND biggest asshole in The Beatles really says what a truly nasty thing John Lennon was. (and for the record, I think McCartney and Lennon, together and in their solo careers, both wrote some of the most iconic, important songs of the 20th Century. Two legendary creative artists, two small, ugly, vile little men) ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2019, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-musicians-you-dont-like-from-the-60s/833433/94 "2019-05-07T18:27:46Z")
**Thudlow @92:**. Paul grabbed George’s guitar and proceeded to play an excellent solo? Did Paul suddenly become right-handed, or did he play the guitar upside-down? Sounds like something Mozart would do on the fortepiano to impress the other boozers. Mozart was supposed to be somewhat of a dick, also. ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2019, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-musicians-you-dont-like-from-the-60s/833433/95 "2019-05-07T19:31:28Z")
> [@Inigo\_Montoya](#): > > Melanie. She was on my old man’s eclectic playlist and part of the soundtrack of my childhood (along with Leon Redbone and Leadbelly and Townes Van Zandt and Herb Alpert & his Marijuana Grass). I may as well have spent the 60s-70s on a different planet because I never meet anyone even familiar with the names, my age or even older. So with that, a [Melanie cover](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbQ43sFDQTM), just for you! You’re welcome. I thought it was going to be Miley…and I would have been fine with it. ---
**Author:** ![TimfromNapa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d26b3c/32.png) [@TimfromNapa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TimfromNapa)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2019, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-musicians-you-dont-like-from-the-60s/833433/96 "2019-05-07T20:08:35Z")
My ten and why: Bobby Beausoleil - Manson Family member and convicted murderer Ray Collins - Convicted pedophile/child rapist Gary Glitter - Convicted pedophile Lou Reed - Asshole who spent way too much time and energy dissing other artists Glen Frye - General asshole. Held his grudge against Don Felder far too long over far too little John Lennon - Insufferably egotistical asshole, child neglecter (the first one anyway), and occasional wife beater Paul Simon - Egotistical douche bag John Fogarty - Asshole totally dismissive of the contributions and importance of his band mates Mark Farner - You have to see the VH1 Behind the Music episode on GFRR to appreciate what a dumb douche this guy is Joan Jett - Made a career out of an act she swiped from Suzy Quatro. ---
**Author:** ![TimfromNapa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d26b3c/32.png) [@TimfromNapa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TimfromNapa)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2019, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-musicians-you-dont-like-from-the-60s/833433/97 "2019-05-07T20:27:50Z")
Oops, my apology to Ray Collins. I meant Roy Estrada. Wrong mother. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2019, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-musicians-you-dont-like-from-the-60s/833433/98 "2019-05-07T21:06:14Z")
> [@TimfromNapa](#): > > My ten and why: > … > Joan Jett - Made a career out of an act she swiped from Suzy Quatro. I have no idea if this is true, and I have no problem believing it. ---
**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2019, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-musicians-you-dont-like-from-the-60s/833433/99 "2019-05-07T21:11:45Z")
I was horrified to read the story behind the making of _Trout Mask Replica_ and to learn how evilly Captain Beefheart abused the members of his Magic Band: keeping them confined, not paying them, starving them, and subjecting them to emotional and physical abuse until they broke down in tears and were subjugated to his paranoid schizophrenia. It sounds like an absolute destructive-cult nightmare. ---
**Author:** ![lingyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d2c977/32.png) [@lingyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lingyi)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2019, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-musicians-you-dont-like-from-the-60s/833433/100 "2019-05-08T07:19:35Z")
> [@ftg](#): > > We watched _Eric Clapton: Life in 12 Bars_ a while back. It went on about how it was Bruce that caused the most problems in Cream. To outdo Baker really takes effort. I haven’t seen the movie, but Baker has Bruce beat because he was a a-hole before and after Cream! 😃 Hate the man, love his music! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-musicians-you-dont-like-from-the-60s/833433.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-musicians-you-dont-like-from-the-60s/833433.md?page=6)