# "10 Reasons Why a Beer if Better than a Black Man"...WTF!! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 27, 2003, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-reasons-why-a-beer-if-better-than-a-black-man-wtf/157990 "2003-02-27T22:25:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-reasons-why-a-beer-if-better-than-a-black-man-wtf/157990/41 "2003-02-28T01:28:59Z")
> [@](#): > > Maybe someone just found the shirt to be funny. Did you think of that? Sure. I’m sure racist people world-wide think the shirt was a laugh-o-riot. Funny, though. I got the link from a black message board I participate on, and none of us were laughing. In fact, all of us were feeling quite pissed. I guess we just want to feel that way. It sure is FUN FEELING PISSED. > [@](#): > > Fuck all of you piece of shit cry-babies who can’t see/hear/read something they don’t like without attributing it to racism or bigotry or homophobia or any other reason. Fuck all you piece of shits who defend offensive material because it doesn’t negatively affect you. Fuck all of you creeps who think racism is just a figment of people’s imaginations. Fuck you to the infinity power. > [@](#): > > Just stop berating us with your whiney-ass holier-than-thou crap. It’s funny that you see criticize my OP as being berating but you don’t see anything wrong with a T-shirt that berates others. And how is the OP any whinier than your post, **akennett**? ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-reasons-why-a-beer-if-better-than-a-black-man-wtf/157990/42 "2003-02-28T01:29:03Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by akennett \* > \*\*Wah! Someone hurt my feelings, with, a t-shirt! Boohoohoo. > \*\* Good lord, what an ass you are. How **dare** someone who belongs to an ethnic group which has been, to varying degrees, stepped on and treated like shit for hundreds of years, and who has grown up with experiences and mindsets that you can’t possibly understand, how **dare** that person be offended by something? I mean, c’mon black folks, _Amos 'n Andy_ is all in good fun… and c’mon, asians, that character from _Breakfast at Tiffany’s_ is a laff riot! Stop demanding special treatment! > [@](#): > > \*\* > I’m sick and tired of people who take offence to every little thing in this world. Grow-up, a t-shirt can’t hurt you. If you don’t like it, don’t read it, don’t sign up for the credit card, don’t go to that school, whatever. Just stop berating us with your whiney-ass holier-than-thou crap. \*\* There is hardly a single word of the preceding paragraph that does not anger and frustrate me. The debate of political correctness vs. racism vs. free speech is an interesting and complex one. I almost certainly disagree with people such as **monstro** about parts of it. But you, sir, are not contributing to that debate. Rather, you are exhibiting yourself to be an ignorant piece of shit. Shut the fuck up and go away. ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-reasons-why-a-beer-if-better-than-a-black-man-wtf/157990/43 "2003-02-28T01:34:28Z")
> [@](#): > > I almost certainly disagree with people such as monstro about parts of it. Since I haven’t participated in any conversations with you over political correctness, I’m just curious what parts you think we disagree over. Not slamming you or anything. Just wondering. ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-reasons-why-a-beer-if-better-than-a-black-man-wtf/157990/44 "2003-02-28T01:38:11Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by monstro \* > \*\* > Black women wouldn’t go for this shit. We have a long history of standing by our men. > \*\* Much as I hate to risk appearing to agree in any way with some of the toilet scrapings who have posted to this thread, I must take issue with this statement… There are plenty of recent movies, comedy acts, etc., in which black women are seen to lament various flaws stereotypically found in black men. If there was a scene in _How Stella Got Her Groove Back_ in which 5 black women got together and made up a list of reasons why beer is better than black men, it wouldn’t really raise an eyebrow, any more than if 5 Asian women had done the same thing about Asian men in _The Joy Luck Club_. Outside such a context, however, it’s a totally different issue, and I believe your reaction was basically completely appropriate. (Do we know for certain whether the college at which it was being sold was primarily white?) ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-reasons-why-a-beer-if-better-than-a-black-man-wtf/157990/45 "2003-02-28T01:38:37Z")
_Funny, though. I got the link from a black message board I participate on, and none of us were laughing. In fact, all of us were feeling quite pissed. I guess we just want to feel that way. It sure is FUN FEELING PISSED._ I hope that last part wasn’t supposed to be sarcastic. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-reasons-why-a-beer-if-better-than-a-black-man-wtf/157990/46 "2003-02-28T01:46:18Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by monstro \* > \*\*Since I haven’t participated in any conversations with you over political correctness, I’m just curious what parts you think we disagree over. > > Not slamming you or anything. Just wondering. \*\* Somewhere there’s a line between what’s funny/appropriate and what’s not. It’s very likely the case that you (a black woman, and that’s all I know about you) would draw that line different places in different contexts than I (a white man from a liberal background) would. Which is fine. Reasonable people can disagree about things. And it certainly wouldn’t necessarily always be the case that since you’re black and I’m white, I’m always going to be more accepting of questionably racist humor. Or maybe I would 🙂 But that’s not the point. None of which means that we wouldn’t both put the T-shirt in question far far over the line. ---
**Author:** ![cuauhtemoc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecb155/32.png) [@cuauhtemoc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cuauhtemoc)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-reasons-why-a-beer-if-better-than-a-black-man-wtf/157990/47 "2003-02-28T01:47:54Z")
If actual harmful violent racism and inequality didn’t exist, would the t-shirt still be as offensive? I say no. I think it would be just like the “Cucumbers are better than men” and “Beer is better than women” t-shirts (which, BTW, would be less offensive if sexism and gender stereotypes didn’t hurt people in real ways). But these things do exist, so I don’t blame **monstro** at all for being upset about this. ---
**Author:** ![Rhum\_Runner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rhum\_Runner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhum_Runner)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-reasons-why-a-beer-if-better-than-a-black-man-wtf/157990/48 "2003-02-28T01:50:11Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by monstro \* > You are stupid and crazy if you can’t see how singling out black men is different–to the degree that it IS–from singling out firetrucks (!), women, or men in general. Again, get over it. Tears of rage? Hate humanity? Your OP was just over the top, I’m not saying the shirt is the greatest thing since sliced bread, and I can see, as I admitted, that it isn’t the same thing as a firetruck or whatever, but it isn’t the end of the world you make it out to be. There are those shirts that talk about white men you know, and yes I recognize the power structure, military industrial complex, yada yada yada, but still, it really is the same thing, and if I saw some black guy wearing the shirt I wouldn’t be tearing up in rage, I’d probably not even think twice about it. Maybe you need to work a little bit on coming around to realizing that we are all in this together and ought to be able to laugh at each other with out getting all worked up into a lather. You and I both know that if Chris Rock did a standup routine on why beer is better than a black guy people would laugh at it; becasue it is funny. > [@](#): > > Are there any shirts that say “10 Reasons Why Rhum Rummer Doesn’t Get It”? I may be in the market for one. \*\* LOL, none that I know of, but if you find one, will you let me know? ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-reasons-why-a-beer-if-better-than-a-black-man-wtf/157990/49 "2003-02-28T01:50:19Z")
> [@](#): > > Do we know for certain whether the college at which it was being sold was primarily white? [http://www.louisville.edu/ur/onpi/profile.html](http://www.louisville.edu/ur/onpi/profile.html) > [@](#): > > Minority students represent 23 percent of the university’s enrollment, and African-American students represent 11.6 percent. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-reasons-why-a-beer-if-better-than-a-black-man-wtf/157990/50 "2003-02-28T02:01:38Z")
When I read your post **Rhum Runner** I feel phlegm of fury rising in my throat! ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-reasons-why-a-beer-if-better-than-a-black-man-wtf/157990/51 "2003-02-28T02:02:12Z")
> [@](#): > > Maybe you need to work a little bit on coming around to realizing that we are all in this together and ought to be able to laugh at each other with out getting all worked up into a lather. No, we AREN’T in this all together. “We” being all of humanity (not you and me.) There’s still a big segment of this population who think black people are inferior, morally corrupt, subhumans. The fact that people think this shirt is “funny” proves this population is more overt with their activities than we tend to think. I laugh all the time. I’m the most humorous person I know (just ask **you with the face**. She knows I’m not a dour person IRL). But I don’t take racism lightly at all. Not when my people are still being discriminated and jerked around. The shirt was offensive to me. Period. No need to defend it. No need to make light of it. Yes, I was exaggerating when I said I hate humanity because of it. No, I’m not going to lose sleep over it. But it pisses me off. Just like everyone is pissed off when they create a thread in the Pit. I don’t like being told to “get over it”. It worsens the anger that’s already there. > [@](#): > > You and I both know that if Chris Rock did a standup routine on why beer is better than a black guy people would laugh at it; becasue it is funny. I don’t think Chris Rock would find humor in this situation at all. ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-reasons-why-a-beer-if-better-than-a-black-man-wtf/157990/52 "2003-02-28T02:09:36Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Kimstu \* > \*\ ***Wd:** _When someone starts claiming that they deserve special treatement, my ears go deaf._ > > Who’s claiming that anybody deserves special treatment? Is anyone here trying to justify racist “Why is Better than a White Man” or “Why is Better than an Asian Man” T-shirts? No. All **monstro** is saying is that just because you personally might happen not to be seriously offended by a racist “Why is Better than a [Your Ethnic Group] Man” T-shirt **doesn’t give you the right to say that she shouldn’t be offended by this one.** > > You’re not offended by racism directed at your racial group? You take racist jokes in your stride? You don’t get upset about it? You don’t think it’s a big deal? Okay, fine for you. But why the hell are you using somebody else’s complaints about racism that **does** offend them as an occasion to brag about your own equanimity? > > \*\* Jesus Christ! Did you intentionally set out to misrepresent my position by 180 degrees or was it simply an accidental by product of the nuclear meltdown that gave you the ability to mimic intelegence on the internet? I said nothing about “my group” or “your group” or “monstro’s group” or any other such thing. I said: > [@](#): > > anything that classifies people on the basis of any inherent genetic condition for the purposes of stereotyping, be it male, female, black, white etc… is offensive. The offensive statement is offensive by nature reguardless of who it is aimed at, and as such is wrong, period. Claiming that one group is somehow more suceptable to offense than another is bullshit. What is offensive is the statement, not the group it’s aimed at. If I was to say to someone “You couldn’t possibly understand how to change the oil on that car, you’re just a girl”, I would be saying nothing about the person in question and everything about myself. ---
**Author:** ![akennett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ee59a6/32.png) [@akennett](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/akennett)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-reasons-why-a-beer-if-better-than-a-black-man-wtf/157990/53 "2003-02-28T02:13:48Z")
> [@](#): > > All monstro is saying is that just because you personally might happen not to be seriously offended by a racist “Why is Better than a [Your Ethnic Group] Man” T-shirt doesn’t give you the right to say that she shouldn’t be offended by this one. Actually **Kimstu** what she says to those people is “fuck you.” That’s quite a ways from what you wrote. Furthermore, if you can’t see a difference between someone being injured and someone crying about some percieved slight, then there really is no hope for you at all. And now back to **monstro** [quote] Fuck all you piece of shits who defend offensive material because it doesn’t negatively affect you. Fuck all of you creeps who think racism is just a figment of people’s imaginations. Fuck you to the infinity power.\*\* Did I say racism doesn’t exist? Not to my recollection. I will defend all material such as this, especially that which offends, because that is what the concept of liberty and freedom is. Maybe instead of bitching about a t-shirt, you could put your energy toward solving a real problem. > [@](#): > > ## I would liken it to the “Beer: Helping white men dance for 500 yeas” > > Are there any shirts that say “10 Reasons Why Rhum Rummer Doesn’t Get It”? I may be in the market for one. Okay, so using black men in a “disparaging” context is bad, but using white men is not? I see now, yes there is racism and it belongs to you. **Maxthevool** > [@](#): > > Good lord, what an ass you are. Thanks, that just means my words had the desired effect. I usually am an ass to those who complain about trivial shit like this. > [@](#): > > But you, sir, are not contributing to that debate. Rather, you are exhibiting yourself to be an ignorant piece of shit. > > Shut the fuck up and go away Okay, perhaps I should not try to use humor any more. Here’s the problem: there is racism in the world, it isn’t going to go away by people complaining about a t-shirt, the shirt merely having the words “black man” and having a caricature does not make it racist in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![Rhum\_Runner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rhum\_Runner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhum_Runner)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-reasons-why-a-beer-if-better-than-a-black-man-wtf/157990/54 "2003-02-28T02:22:04Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by CarnalK \* > \*\*When I read your post **Rhum Runner** I feel phlegm of fury rising in my throat! \*\* Eh gads, first tears of rage, now phlegm of fury. What’s next, lymph of wrath? [Announcement] “Clean up in aisle 4, angry bodily fluids spilled” [/Announcement] ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-reasons-why-a-beer-if-better-than-a-black-man-wtf/157990/55 "2003-02-28T02:28:34Z")
> [@](#): > > The offensive statement is offensive by nature reguardless of who it is aimed at, and as such is wrong, period. This just isn’t true. I can think of a million scenarios where saying something to one person will justifiably elicit a totally different response from them than from another person. If I call George W. the President an idiot to his face, he’d probably smirk and say a snappy comeback. If I call George W. the retarded child in the special education class an idiot to his face, he’d probably cry and tell the teacher. Is the latter case overreacting? Is the former underreacting? Or should the two be analyzed individually, with a bit of understanding. Like, maybe the President has just as many people telling him he’s smart. He has all of his accomplishments to back him up just in case he has doubts. And like, maybe the retarded child has been put down his whole life and he’s plain sick of being the butt of everyone’s jokes. ---
**Author:** ![Will\_Repair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a698b9/32.png) [@Will\_Repair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Will_Repair)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-reasons-why-a-beer-if-better-than-a-black-man-wtf/157990/56 "2003-02-28T02:29:28Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by monstro \* > **Call me cynical, but I think both of ya’ll are way off-base. I doubt they were marketing to black women on a predominately-white campus. And if they were marketing to this audience, they are not only racist, but they are stupid. Black women wouldn’t go for this shit. We have a long history of standing by our men.** A drawing of a black woman on the shirt would lead me to conclude that they were marketing to black woman. What self respecting racist would want a shirt with a black woman on it? I didn’t say they were intelligent marketers. Your last comment is a can of worms I’ll let Anita Hill open. ---
**Author:** ![Rhum\_Runner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rhum\_Runner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhum_Runner)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-reasons-why-a-beer-if-better-than-a-black-man-wtf/157990/57 "2003-02-28T02:32:37Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by monstro \* > **No, we AREN’T in this all together. “We” being all of humanity (not you and me.) There’s still a big segment of this population who think black people are inferior, morally corrupt, subhumans. The fact that people think this shirt is “funny” proves this population is more overt with their activities than we tend to think.** Yeah, that’s true I suppose, but why be so cup half empty about it? There are many more people who don’t think that way, and they could see this shirt and laugh at it with out reading it as some grand statement by the KKK about blacks and race etc. Why choose to read it in the worst possible way? > [@](#): > > But I don’t take racism lightly at all. Not when my people are still being discriminated and jerked around. I don’t take racism lightly either, but talking about ‘your people’ doesn’t help your cause here. Think about which white people refer to “their people”: most of them live in the hills of Idaho if you know what I mean. > [@](#): > > I don’t think Chris Rock would find humor in this situation at all. I do. The man has made millions out of lampooning blacks and black culture. But, you want to be upset, fine, go ahead, waste your time. ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-reasons-why-a-beer-if-better-than-a-black-man-wtf/157990/58 "2003-02-28T02:47:46Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Yumanite \* > \*\*But this is different. “It won’t get you pregnant”, for example, is a comparison between beer and a man. It has nothing to do with skin color. So why the hell??? It’s not even based on a racial stereotype, as far as I can see – how do any of the things listed on that shirt NOT apply to white men or asian men or whatever other kind of men? > > For some reason, that’s what makes this kind of creepy to me – to take some kind of categorical descriptors which could, I suppose, be applied to all men, and choose to single out a particular type of man, is really weird. And it feels _racist_ to me (white and female, BTW, and there’s not a huge black community around here, so I don’t think I’m being influenced by the desire to rack up victimhood brownie points ). \*\* The reason why it feels racist is because it is. The sentiments on that shirt are based on stereotypes specific to black men and black women. The shirt is critical of the whole black community. Let me try to explain: To start out with: The graphic on the shirt shows a large black woman and a tiny black man. The black community has been denigrated for along time because of its supposedly matrilinear character. The popular image of the strong, loud, black female seems positive on its face, but it is a double-edged sword. Strong women are seen as being emasculating, and unable to keep men around. The Moynihan Report pointed to the large number of female-headed black families as one of the main reasons for black poverty, crime, etc. “Beer won’t yell at your kids.” This implies that the black man is not the kids’ father–otherwise, the phrasing would probably be “yell at the kids.” This statement plays on the idea that black women have multiple kids by multiple men. “Beer won’t get you pregnant.” This plays on the idea that black women are likely to have unwanted pregnancies and that black people don’t use birth control. Obviously, a man of any color won’t get you pregnant if you use birth control (occasional mishaps aside). So this only works within the stereotype of black people not being in control of their fertility. ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-reasons-why-a-beer-if-better-than-a-black-man-wtf/157990/59 "2003-02-28T02:50:59Z")
> [@](#): > > Black women wouldn’t go for this shit. We have a long history of standing by our men. > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by AcidKid \* > Your last comment is a can of worms I’ll let Anita Hill open. Are you saying that Anita Hill should have “stood by” Clarence Thomas??? Please please let me have misunderstood you. ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-reasons-why-a-beer-if-better-than-a-black-man-wtf/157990/60 "2003-02-28T02:54:10Z")
**AcidKid** : > [@](#): > > A drawing of a black woman on the shirt would lead me to conclude that they were marketing to black woman. It’s not exactly like one of those Queen of Africa shirts praising black women. And I’m serious: I doubt any black woman would be caught dead wearing something like this. > [@](#): > > Your last comment is a can of worms I’ll let Anita Hill open. I don’t think Anita Hill has anything against black men. Just one in particular. **Rhum Runner** : > [@](#): > > Yeah, that’s true I suppose, but why be so cup half empty about it? About what? I’m pissed that racist ideas are being promoted as “OK”. Why do I have to be cynical in order to be tired of racism? > [@](#): > > There are many more people who don’t think that way, and they could see this shirt and laugh at it with out reading it as some grand statement by the KKK about blacks and race etc. About four hours ago, I would have agreed with you. But I dunno. Just knowing that this company thought people would find the shirts so adorable that they would accept them as gifts suggests to me that there may be more people who think this is “ok” than not. Hell, look at this thread. Look at your own responses. You don’t even think it’s that bad. > [@](#): > > talking about ‘your people’ doesn’t help your cause here. Why? In order to be “helpful”, I have to pretend I don’t belong to any particular group? Would you prefer I say “my community” instead? > [@](#): > > The man has made millions out of lampooning blacks and black culture. I don’t think “lampoon” is the right word. And I still don’t think he would take to being rated lower than a mug of beer by a bunch of acne-faced college brats. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-reasons-why-a-beer-if-better-than-a-black-man-wtf/157990.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-reasons-why-a-beer-if-better-than-a-black-man-wtf/157990.md?page=4)