# 10 things I hate about Ronald Reagan **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 5, 2004, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-things-i-hate-about-ronald-reagan/248840 "2004-06-05T19:06:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-things-i-hate-about-ronald-reagan/248840/101 "2004-06-06T00:17:44Z")
> [@Apos](#): > > Something about this statement bothered me. Then I realized what it was: one of those children died years ago. Are you sure this is what CNN said? From CNN: > [@](#): > > His wife, Nancy Davis Reagan, and their two children, Ronald Jr. and Patty Davis, were with him when he died at his home in the Bel Air district of Los Angeles. > > Michael Reagan, his adopted son from his first marriage to actress Jane Wyman, arrived at the home shortly before news of the death. Three kids is correct. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-things-i-hate-about-ronald-reagan/248840/102 "2004-06-06T00:18:09Z")
> [@Airman Doors](#): > > Well, I can tell that you didn’t read the rest of the thread. Oooh, burn! You sure told me. ---
**Author:** ![SallyStar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a3d4f5/32.png) [@SallyStar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SallyStar)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-things-i-hate-about-ronald-reagan/248840/103 "2004-06-06T00:18:12Z")
> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#): > > The guy fucking blew almost as hard as Dubya does. His death is not a loss but he will doubtlessly be canonized by the media regardless. And you won’t be even remembered by two pit twits! What a twerp! ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-things-i-hate-about-ronald-reagan/248840/104 "2004-06-06T00:19:04Z")
> [@Apos](#): > > Something about this statement bothered me. Then I realized what it was: one of those children died years ago. Are you sure this is what CNN said? Maureen died several years ago. Ron Jr., his sister (can’t recall her name) and Michael (Maureen’s bro) are still alive. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Scrivener](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@The\_Scrivener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Scrivener)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-things-i-hate-about-ronald-reagan/248840/105 "2004-06-06T00:19:11Z")
Nitpick re. President Carter’s “Desert One” attempt to rescue the hostages in Iran: embassies and their grounds are construed in international law as the territory of the guest nation. IANALawyer, but I believe that when Khomeini & co. fomented the popular uprising that overran the embassy and sacked it, that legally constituted an invasion of U.S. territory and an act of war. The taking and abuse of hostages, over such a prolonged period of time, were highly egregious crimes and human rights abuses. IMHO, practically any measures that Carter could have chosen to undertake to bring the hostages home was fully legal and ethical. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Man\_With\_The\_Golden\_Gun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dc4da7/32.png) [@The\_Man\_With\_The\_Golden\_Gun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Man_With_The_Golden_Gun)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-things-i-hate-about-ronald-reagan/248840/106 "2004-06-06T00:21:29Z")
> [@Otto](#): > > Why? Because I’m not rending my garments in calamatous grief over the death of a man who I consider to have done lasting if not irreparable harm to the nation through his acts, his decisions not to act and the furtherance of his political philosophy? Saint Ron’s started his dirt nap. Boo-fucking-hoo. There’s a big difference between disagreeing with someone’s politics and celebrating their death. I might not agree with your politics, how would you like it if I celebrated your death (assuming you were capable of knowing about it, of course)? Although, this isn’t the only post of yours that has convinced me that not all your dogs are barking, but that’s another thread for another time. ---
**Author:** ![SlyFrog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a3d4f5/32.png) [@SlyFrog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlyFrog)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-things-i-hate-about-ronald-reagan/248840/107 "2004-06-06T00:24:35Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > Reagan had no compassion for those dying of AIDS. . . . I have no compassion for Ronald Reagan. Good job differentiating yourself. Put another way, good job becoming what you hate. ---
**Author:** ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-things-i-hate-about-ronald-reagan/248840/108 "2004-06-06T00:26:16Z")
> [@](#): > > And this thread is a perfect example of how twisted the SDMB has become. When was this golden time when no one would say nasty things about anyone in the Pit, Sam? Care to back up that whine with the hard cheese of some actual plausible story about how this never used to happen? Are you so sure it never happens to liberal figures? ---
**Author:** ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-things-i-hate-about-ronald-reagan/248840/109 "2004-06-06T00:27:47Z")
You’re right, I forgot a kid. I was so used to hearing about three of them back in the day that I forgot we had a fourth. ---
**Author:** ![SlyFrog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a3d4f5/32.png) [@SlyFrog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlyFrog)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-things-i-hate-about-ronald-reagan/248840/110 "2004-06-06T00:36:40Z")
> [@lexi](#): > > As someone who used to fear Ronnie quite a bit as a child (he was a step worse than the boogie man) - I have no love lost for the death of this man - I echo miller’s feelings. > > 1.) Trickledown economics. What family is doing better now than in the 70’s - now 2 parents need to work to have an income to sustain a family - in the 70’s mothers in the middle class did not need to work. Oh, sure they didn’t, not a single one. As well, I assume that the increase in dual working couples has nothing to do with women having a greater ability and right to work now than they did in the 70s. Of course, most women would not need to work now either, if the average American family were willing to accept a standard of living of the 70’s, which could be provided on one income. Of course, it really wouldn’t hurt us to stop being so damn materialistic; that part I agree with. > [@lexi](#): > > 2.) Fearing the bomb - who wasn’t afraid the whole world would go to smitherines with his finger on the button. Yep, thank god Reagan put an end to that. > [@lexi](#): > > 3.) His buddy relationship with Iraq. Who’s fault is it now? Any port in a storm. Of course, I’m sure you were omniscient and knew what would happen there before 1991. > [@lexi](#): > > 4.) American policing of the world when the world doesn’t want them as thier cops. I’m with you here; screw the rest of the world. We should move in when it suits our interest to take what we want. Enough with trying to improve conditions outside of our borders. > [@lexi](#): > > 5.) Blue suits & red ties - business men still wear those things - ewwww! > > 6.) Making really crappy movies. > > 7.) Turning in your Buddies cause they were “commies” > > 8.) Having GHWB as your 2nd in command > > 9.) Making GWB possible > > 10.) Not dying in your first term when Jodie Foster’s fan shot at him. I think these can receive the attention they deserved grouped together. Oh look, a penny! ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-things-i-hate-about-ronald-reagan/248840/111 "2004-06-06T00:37:07Z")
I wonder how many conservatives would be lining up to eulogize Bill Clinton if he died. Since I didn’t respect Reagan while he was alive it would be dishonest for me to feign repsect now. His death does not give me any pain. Neither did Nixon’s. I’m not going to lie and say I care if I don’t. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-things-i-hate-about-ronald-reagan/248840/112 "2004-06-06T00:46:43Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > I’m curious as to how he “prevented” Koop from “mentioning AIDS.” Was there some sort of executive order that said “Don’t mention AIDS”? Yes, see [The History of HIV/AIDS in the U.S.](http://www.thebody.com/encyclo/presidency.html) This is what I hate about Mr. Reagan’s presidency. ---
**Author:** ![rfgdxm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c0e974/32.png) [@rfgdxm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rfgdxm)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-things-i-hate-about-ronald-reagan/248840/113 "2004-06-06T01:03:25Z")
> [@SlyFrog](#): > > Yep, thank god Reagan put an end to that. Seriously. Where do silly fools like you come from who are deluded that all the nuclear weapons in the world have been beaten into plowshares? The threat is still there. And, does it make a whole lot of sense that the leaders of the Soviet Union, while dining on lobster and shrimp served by the waiters, would say “Gee, it sure sounds like a good idea to launch all our nukes at the US later today”? Reagan did _nothing_ to lessen the threat of nuclear weapons being used. ---
**Author:** ![GLWasteful](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f05b48/32.png) [@GLWasteful](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GLWasteful)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-things-i-hate-about-ronald-reagan/248840/114 "2004-06-06T01:06:43Z")
Originally Posted by **lexi** : > [@](#): > > 3.) His buddy relationship with Iraq. Who’s fault is it now? And subsequently posted by **SlyFrog** : > [@](#): > > Any port in a storm. Of course, I’m sure you were omniscient and knew what would happen there before 1991. Depends. Are you asking about when Glaspie essentially said, “Knock yerself out,” to Saddam? Or the subsequent All Hell Breaks Loose part? ---
**Author:** ![htns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ba8739/32.png) [@htns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/htns)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-things-i-hate-about-ronald-reagan/248840/115 "2004-06-06T01:09:17Z")
> [@Fish](#): > > I just heard on the radio that he died. Let the retrospectives commence. You mean to tell me that Nazi fuck finally keeled over? For real? PAR-TAY TIME!!! TEQUILA!!! YEEEEEEEEEHAWWWWWWWWWW!!! You just made my whole fuckin’ year! Where is the grave gonna be? Cause I’ve got a REALLY full bladder right now, see… ---
**Author:** ![SallyStar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a3d4f5/32.png) [@SallyStar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SallyStar)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-things-i-hate-about-ronald-reagan/248840/116 "2004-06-06T01:12:23Z")
> [@htns](#): > > You mean to tell me that Nazi fuck finally keeled over? YEA, Let us know when you Mother and Father Die! ---
**Author:** ![milroyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@milroyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milroyj)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-things-i-hate-about-ronald-reagan/248840/117 "2004-06-06T01:12:54Z")
htns, you are scum. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-things-i-hate-about-ronald-reagan/248840/118 "2004-06-06T01:16:43Z")
> [@htns](#): > > You mean to tell me that Nazi fuck finally keeled over? For real? Do you know who the Nazis were? The Nazis gassed and cremated 11 million people (6 million Jews, 5 million Roma, homosexuals, Communists and other "undesirables)in camps that were really factories that manufactured death. I opposed everything Reagan did back in the 80s, but this is beyond the pale. You should be ashamed of yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-things-i-hate-about-ronald-reagan/248840/119 "2004-06-06T01:17:44Z")
Have you never been glad someone died? If you have…that makes you scum to ya know. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-things-i-hate-about-ronald-reagan/248840/120 "2004-06-06T01:20:07Z")
> [@milroyj](#): > > You don’t need to link to a dictionary, I know what regime means. Personally, I haven’t seen the word used to refer to the Clinton Administration on the SDMB, though. > > If I’m wrong about that, I welcome examples. Mmm, sorry, **milroyj** , I missed this. I honestly don’t recall if it was here or in real life. I only remember thinking that the word should only properly be applied to tyrannical governments, or possibly monarchies, so I looked it up to be sure. After looking it up, I was sure I was wrong. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-things-i-hate-about-ronald-reagan/248840.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/10-things-i-hate-about-ronald-reagan/248840.md?page=7)