# 100 members of white supremacist group The Patriot Front march through Boston **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 3, 2022, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/100-members-of-white-supremacist-group-the-patriot-front-march-through-boston/967353 "2022-07-03T20:38:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2022, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/100-members-of-white-supremacist-group-the-patriot-front-march-through-boston/967353/21 "2022-07-04T22:55:32Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > I’ve never needed anyone to meet and protect me as I left public transportation in Boston. I couldn’t afford to leave public transportation in Boston. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/100-members-of-white-supremacist-group-the-patriot-front-march-through-boston/967353/22 "2022-07-05T00:13:50Z")
> [@74westy](#): > > I couldn’t afford to leave public transportation in Boston. Sorry, Charlie. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/100-members-of-white-supremacist-group-the-patriot-front-march-through-boston/967353/23 "2022-07-05T00:19:11Z")
Shoulda brought that extra nickel. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/100-members-of-white-supremacist-group-the-patriot-front-march-through-boston/967353/24 "2022-07-05T03:07:03Z")
> [@74westy](#): > > I couldn’t afford to leave public transportation in Boston. Are you still aboard to this day? ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/100-members-of-white-supremacist-group-the-patriot-front-march-through-boston/967353/25 "2022-07-05T03:47:50Z")
Darn, this cover could have been eerily prescient (even though the altered word means something different to most people than it does to the Dropkick Murphys): [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/-U-DH6tasgY/maxresdefault.jpg "Dropkick Murphys - "Skinhead on the MBTA" (Full Album Stream)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-U-DH6tasgY) ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/100-members-of-white-supremacist-group-the-patriot-front-march-through-boston/967353/26 "2022-07-05T13:35:19Z")
> [@Fair\_Rarity](#): > > They got out at Oak Grove in Malden (the furthest north of the Orange line T stops Damn! I didn’t know that. They didn’t mention it on the TV news reports. That’s the T station closest to my house, and the one I use the most. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/100-members-of-white-supremacist-group-the-patriot-front-march-through-boston/967353/27 "2022-07-05T14:15:33Z")
> [@74westy](#): > > I couldn’t afford to leave public transportation in Boston. > [@Morgyn](#): > > Sorry, Charlie. > [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Shoulda brought that extra nickel. > [@Senegoid](#): > > Are you still aboard to this day? I’ve always wondered why his wife doesn’t just give him a nickel with his lunch. What’s she got to hide? ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/100-members-of-white-supremacist-group-the-patriot-front-march-through-boston/967353/28 "2022-07-05T15:01:46Z")
> [@Akaj](#): > > I’ve always wondered why his wife doesn’t just give him a nickel with his lunch. What’s she got to hide? Time has passed the events of the song by. Nowadays she’d have to hand him a Charley Card or a Charlie Ticket with the necessary amount on it. ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/100-members-of-white-supremacist-group-the-patriot-front-march-through-boston/967353/29 "2022-07-05T15:20:36Z")
A common spelling/pronunciation confusion: White Suprematist [Kasmir Malevich](https://d5wt70d4gnm1t.cloudfront.net/media/a-s/articles/2155-773369296817/what-was-suprematism-phaidon-900x450.tiff) White Supremacist: subject of the OP Handy mnemonic: “cyst” white pustule ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/100-members-of-white-supremacist-group-the-patriot-front-march-through-boston/967353/30 "2022-07-05T15:59:39Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > Time has passed the events of the song by. Nowadays she’d have to hand him a Charley Card or a Charlie Ticket with the necessary amount on it. Can you use a card to get out of a station that’s not the one you used to get in? Time may have helped Charlie. I found one site about the song which speculates that, depending on Charlie’s age when the song was written, he may have been able to get off once he qualified for the senior citizen’s fare in the 1970s. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/100-members-of-white-supremacist-group-the-patriot-front-march-through-boston/967353/31 "2022-07-05T16:07:33Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > > [@Akaj](#): > > > > I’ve always wondered why his wife doesn’t just give him a nickel with his lunch. What’s she got to hide? > > Time has passed the events of the song by. Nowadays she’d have to hand him a **Charley Card** or a Charlie Ticket with the necessary amount on it. - I always thought it was cool that the MTA had enough of a sense of humor to make that official. [![](https://npr.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/30c6a16/2147483647/strip/true/crop/800x450+0+27/resize/1200x675!/quality/90/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnpr-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2Flegacy%2Fsites%2Fwamc%2Ffiles%2F201401%2Fcharliecard.jpg) ](https://npr.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/30c6a16/2147483647/strip/true/crop/800x450+0+27/resize/1200x675!/quality/90/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnpr-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2Flegacy%2Fsites%2Fwamc%2Ffiles%2F201401%2Fcharliecard.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Fair\_Rarity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fair_rarity/32/153_2.png) [@Fair\_Rarity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fair_Rarity)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/100-members-of-white-supremacist-group-the-patriot-front-march-through-boston/967353/32 "2022-07-05T23:07:36Z")
Yeah in one of the pictures of them in the parking lot you can totally recognize it. I drove past it today myself and I got super angry and a little “there could be nazis here any time now, I guess” vibe. I don’t know why but I feel like white supremacists should use Wellington? ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/100-members-of-white-supremacist-group-the-patriot-front-march-through-boston/967353/33 "2022-07-06T03:04:11Z")
Malden’s got really good parking, though. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/100-members-of-white-supremacist-group-the-patriot-front-march-through-boston/967353/34 "2022-07-06T14:31:34Z")
More [recent reports](https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2022/07/05/white-supremacist-patriot-front-boston-march/) say that they did not have a permit to demonstrate. Also, they assaulted someone during their cowardly march, and police are now reviewing all video (including license plates from Oak Grove), trying to track down any members they can. > [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Can you use a card to get out of a station that’s not the one you used to get in? > > Time may have helped Charlie. I found one site about the song which speculates that, depending on Charlie’s age when the song was written, he may have been able to get off once he qualified for the senior citizen’s fare in the 1970s. I’m wondering when did you ever need extra funds to leave a station on the MBTA? I’ve been riding it on and off since 1985, and you pay a fare when you get on the subway, never one to get off or change trains. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/100-members-of-white-supremacist-group-the-patriot-front-march-through-boston/967353/35 "2022-07-06T15:56:28Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > (including license plates from Oak Grove) to legally park at Oak Grove you have to use that damned pay-by-phone service. Surely they have the records of who was there. Illegally parked cars the police should already have records of. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/100-members-of-white-supremacist-group-the-patriot-front-march-through-boston/967353/36 "2022-07-06T16:02:14Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > I’m wondering when did you ever need extra funds to leave a station on the MBTA? I’ve been riding it on and off since 1985, and you pay a fare when you get on the subway, never one to get off or change trains. > [@](#): > > In the 1940s, the MTA fare-schedule was very complicated - at one time, the booklet that explained it was 9 pages long. Fare increases were implemented by means of an “exit fare”. Rather than modify all the turnstiles for the new rate, they just collected the extra money when leaving the train. (Prior to the introduciton electronic fare collection in the mid-2000s, exit fares existed on the Braintree branch of the Red Line.) One of the key points of the platform of Walter A. O’Brien, a Progressive Party candidate for mayor of Boston, was to fight fare increases and make the fare schedule more uniform. Charlie was born. From [Charlie on the M.T.A.](https://www.mit.edu/~jdreed/t/charlie.html) ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/100-members-of-white-supremacist-group-the-patriot-front-march-through-boston/967353/37 "2022-07-06T16:49:11Z")
What do the people without smart phones or banking apps on their phones do? ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/100-members-of-white-supremacist-group-the-patriot-front-march-through-boston/967353/38 "2022-07-06T16:53:45Z")
You can call an 800 number and go through a phone menu to pay to park as well. But either way you have to enter the license plate of the car you’re paying for. IME parking at a similar lot, there’s about a 50% chance they’ll catch you if you don’t pay, so I assume the teams that check the cars don’t check the lots every day. So here’s hoping Oak Grove was on the list that day. ---
**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/100-members-of-white-supremacist-group-the-patriot-front-march-through-boston/967353/39 "2022-07-06T17:00:22Z")
> [@Morgyn](#): > > What do the people without smart phones or banking apps on their phones do In my city all the meters also accept a physical credit or debit card and accept quarter coins. A quarter buys 12 minutes, 5 quarters ($1.25) buys an hour of parking. The aggravation for me of using the smart phone parking app or the credit/credit card is that you must pay the first increment as $1.25, so I have to pay $1.25 to park for 5 minutes to run into the library to pick up my reserved books. I solve that by going through the hassle every few months of ‘buying’ a 10 dollar roll of quarters at a bank and leaving it in the cup holder for quick parking errands. Big PITA. Now you kids “get off my lawn!” ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/100-members-of-white-supremacist-group-the-patriot-front-march-through-boston/967353/40 "2022-07-06T17:01:53Z")
> [@Morgyn](#): > > What do the people without smart phones or banking apps on their phones do? Damned if I know. I got the parking app for when I park there. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/100-members-of-white-supremacist-group-the-patriot-front-march-through-boston/967353.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/100-members-of-white-supremacist-group-the-patriot-front-march-through-boston/967353.md?page=3)